Is 250grams of sodium sulfide enough?!?!?! H2s method help.

[heyismeman]

I'm wondering if this is overkill or not. Should be a peak 15k ppm but what im concerned is how quickly the levels reach that high.
Sorry 250grams of 60% sodium sulfide, so 150 grams total. I figured this, use 2 buckets in a car for greater surface area with hcl. What i wonder and what im most concerned is the time it takes levels to reach the 1 breath and dead amount. I fear suffering as the levels slowly rise and im breathing in sub lethal fumes that burn like a mono. Thank you everyone.

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

It depends on the capacity of the room. I think it might be a good idea to cover buckets with plastic bags, and cut and open them after they inflate and get filled with hydrogen sulfide enough.

And maybe you have too little sodium sulfide.
In the case of link below, a man who killed himself with hydrogen sulfide in a car used 9 * 440g bottles of bath essence containing 160-195 g/kg sulfur, that is 772.2g (9 * 0.44 * 195) of sulfur. You have 61.5g of sulfur (150g / (23 * 2 + 32) * 32). You need 3137g of 60% sodium sulfide to get the same amount of sulfur as the man had.

[Suicidal poisoning due to hydrogen sulfide produced by mixing a liquid bath essence containing sulfur and a toilet bowl cleaner containing hydrochloric acid] - PubMed

A 21-year-old man was found dead in a car. There were 9 empty bottles of 610HAP (a 440 g bottle of a liquid bath essence containing 160-195 g/kg sulfur) and 10 of Sunpole (a 500 mL bottle of a toilet bowl cleaner containing 9.5% HCl) in the car. The car doors were sealed with tape, and there was...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[heyismeman]

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It depends on the capacity of the room. I think it might be a good idea to cover buckets with plastic bags, and cut and open them after they inflate and get filled with hydrogen sulfide enough.

And maybe you have too little sodium sulfide.
In the case of link below, a man who killed himself with hydrogen sulfide in a car used 9 * 440g bottles of bath essence containing 160-195 g/kg sulfur, that is 772.2g (9 * 0.44 * 195) of sulfur. You have 61.5g of sulfur (150g / (23 * 2 + 32) * 32). You need 3137g of 60% sodium sulfide to get the same amount of sulfur as the man had.

[Suicidal poisoning due to hydrogen sulfide produced by mixing a liquid bath essence containing sulfur and a toilet bowl cleaner containing hydrochloric acid] - PubMed

A 21-year-old man was found dead in a car. There were 9 empty bottles of 610HAP (a 440 g bottle of a liquid bath essence containing 160-195 g/kg sulfur) and 10 of Sunpole (a 500 mL bottle of a toilet bowl cleaner containing 9.5% HCl) in the car. The car doors were sealed with tape, and there was...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A car 3000L in all. I think max yield will be 15000k ppm. That's what the math says.

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

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A car 3000L in all. I think max yield will be 15000k ppm. That's what the math says.

I don't think the chemical reaction finishes instantly. The ppm will increase gradually. You will suffer during the reaction not producing enough hydrogen sulfide yet. More sodium sulfide produces more hydrogen sulfide and more quickly fills the car with the fatal strength of it.

 

[heyismeman]

I don't think the chemical reaction finishes instantly. The ppm will increase gradually. You will suffer during the reaction not producing enough hydrogen sulfide yet. More sodium sulfide produces more hydrogen sulfide and more quickly fills the car with the fatal strength of it.

Totally and I agree but the issue is actually that the more product used also means I risk a spill over. Like in theory I could do 500grams of product and use 2 buckets for double surface area. It doesn't sound like a bad idea at all. But there is a huge reason I am using sodium sulfide and not calcium polysulfide like you get with lime sulfur or pet dips and stuff. Sodium sulfide is much much much more reactive as its water soluable. It might take abit of time for full reaction to finish but it should also be wayyyyy quicker.

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

I agree you have a risk of spilling over. If the sulfide solution spills over and drains away from the car especially when it is large quantities, it can harm or kill others. It's natural to avoid this situation. Rather I was concerned that the car would not be filled enough with hydrogen sulfide due to ventilation, unwanted reactions that reduce hydrogen sulfide, or other factors. This method is not fully established yet, unlike the SN dose is determined. If I leave the world in hydrogen sulfide method I'll use 3137g, but I don't think your 250g is insufficient now.

 

[heyismeman]

I don't think the chemical reaction finishes instantly. The ppm will increase gradually. You will suffer during the reaction not producing enough hydrogen sulfide yet. More sodium sulfide produces more hydrogen sulfide and more quickly fills the car with the fatal strength

I agree you have a risk of spilling over. If the sulfide solution spills over and drains away from the car especially when it is large quantities, it can harm or kill others. It's natural to avoid this situation. Rather I was concerned that the car would not be filled enough with hydrogen sulfide due to ventilation, unwanted reactions that reduce hydrogen sulfide, or other factors. This method is not fully established yet, unlike the SN dose is determined. If I leave the world in hydrogen sulfide method I'll use 3137g, but I don' your 250g is

With 3136 grams im looking at about 325600 ppm which is enough to kill 100 elephants from a single breath but I get the idea lol. I think I will do 500 grams with 2 buckets each containing 250 grams. That should be at peak rate about 30k ppm. Obviously its not exact as some dissipation etc will occur but I would be soooooo amazed if it wasn't enough still.

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

With 3136 grams im looking at about 325600 ppm which is enough to kill 100 elephants from a single breath but I get the idea lol. I think I will do 500 grams with 2 buckets each containing 250 grams. That should be at peak rate about 30k ppm. Obviously its not exact as some dissipation etc will occur but I would be soooooo amazed if it wasn't enough still.

Sounds like a good plan. I hope you never need to carry out it though

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

need to be tested with a meter to see how much and how fast h2s is being generated in a sealed chamber and a car too.

All these theories dont account for many factors including leaking of air

But test with very small amount and very small ppm . Then extrapolate results with chatgpt to larger chamber and to more ppm

need to be very careful with even very small amounts.

Holy shit online I found a giant plastic bag 2 mill polyetelyne 90 to 100 cubic feet. That can be taped up with gorrilla tape made into a tent. Sayonara to this hell. If no holes then its a sealed chamber.

 

[heyismeman]

Sounds like a good plan. I hope you never need to carry out it though

I mean its the plan