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hell toupee
Experienced
- Sep 9, 2024
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I know hanging is a method for a lot of people - it was my backup method should my primary method fail. I am contemplating switching my backup method from hanging to a 7-OH + alcohol OD that is used in conjunction with a 45 gallon plastic bag. According to calculations, a 45 gallon bag will allow normal breathing for 60-90 minutes before the CO2 rises to deadly levels. So the OD is simply to cause a loss of consciousness.
After what I researched, I may indeed stick with hanging, here's why.
Greater than 80% of all hangings (not including hanging as a state execution method) are partial hangings.
Here's what interested me the most - greater than 95% of all hangings, consciousness is lost immediately (5-15 seconds). Greater than 95% are really good odds. In the CTBs where consciousness was NOT lost immediately, was almost always due to the chosen rope or rope substitute - meaning it was too wide, or the head position was wrong (more on this below). You need something thin and hard. Not bedsheets, towels, or similar. If these are used, they need to be rolled up tightly.
Most celebrity hangings - Chester Bennington, Kate Spade, Robin Williams, Chris Cornell, etc. all died from partial. Robin Williams (belt) was actually in a seated position. Chester (belt) was on his knees, as well as Chris Cornell (elastic exercise band). Kate Spade used a scarf. All of these people had their feet flat on the ground.
Regarding head and rope position. In successful hangings, the rope is almost always placed at the top of the neck, just under the jaw. This is where the baroreceptors and vagus nerve on the carotid artery is located. These are what is responsible for immediate loss of consciousness.
Almost all successful hangings, which more than 80% are partial, are done with the chin pointed to the ground - this pushes out the carotids from the neck muscles and allows the ligature to positively occlude them, meaning instant loss of consciousness.
If you are unsuccessful in losing consciousness and are getting the exploding head feeling, this means only the jugulars are being compressed, blocking blood from draining out of the head. As the carotids continue to pump blood in to the head, resulting in the exploding head feeling, red spots all over your face (burst capillaries), blood shot eyes, etc. If this is the case, I would abort instantly. This exploding head feeling is telling you that the carotids are not occluded, and you would simply end up suffocating rather than losing consciousness quickly and CTB'ing peacefully.
This means either you are using too broad of a ligature (bedsheets, towels, etc), or your head is upright, or you aren't applying enough force. The partial positions where people are on their knees or similar and just "lean in to it", is most certainly not enough pressure. For myself, I would have to use partial because I am in a wheelchair, and am very limited in finding a high enough anchor point. If I go this route, I will use the partial position that results in 70-80% of your body weight being applied, which is the seated one, like you are sitting down with your butt in the air, and your legs stretched out in front of you. My heels will basically be the only thing touching the ground.
After what I researched, I may indeed stick with hanging, here's why.
Greater than 80% of all hangings (not including hanging as a state execution method) are partial hangings.
Here's what interested me the most - greater than 95% of all hangings, consciousness is lost immediately (5-15 seconds). Greater than 95% are really good odds. In the CTBs where consciousness was NOT lost immediately, was almost always due to the chosen rope or rope substitute - meaning it was too wide, or the head position was wrong (more on this below). You need something thin and hard. Not bedsheets, towels, or similar. If these are used, they need to be rolled up tightly.
Most celebrity hangings - Chester Bennington, Kate Spade, Robin Williams, Chris Cornell, etc. all died from partial. Robin Williams (belt) was actually in a seated position. Chester (belt) was on his knees, as well as Chris Cornell (elastic exercise band). Kate Spade used a scarf. All of these people had their feet flat on the ground.
Regarding head and rope position. In successful hangings, the rope is almost always placed at the top of the neck, just under the jaw. This is where the baroreceptors and vagus nerve on the carotid artery is located. These are what is responsible for immediate loss of consciousness.
Almost all successful hangings, which more than 80% are partial, are done with the chin pointed to the ground - this pushes out the carotids from the neck muscles and allows the ligature to positively occlude them, meaning instant loss of consciousness.
If you are unsuccessful in losing consciousness and are getting the exploding head feeling, this means only the jugulars are being compressed, blocking blood from draining out of the head. As the carotids continue to pump blood in to the head, resulting in the exploding head feeling, red spots all over your face (burst capillaries), blood shot eyes, etc. If this is the case, I would abort instantly. This exploding head feeling is telling you that the carotids are not occluded, and you would simply end up suffocating rather than losing consciousness quickly and CTB'ing peacefully.
This means either you are using too broad of a ligature (bedsheets, towels, etc), or your head is upright, or you aren't applying enough force. The partial positions where people are on their knees or similar and just "lean in to it", is most certainly not enough pressure. For myself, I would have to use partial because I am in a wheelchair, and am very limited in finding a high enough anchor point. If I go this route, I will use the partial position that results in 70-80% of your body weight being applied, which is the seated one, like you are sitting down with your butt in the air, and your legs stretched out in front of you. My heels will basically be the only thing touching the ground.