Some of you may already know this, but I thought this could be helpful for people who don't.
I watched a documentary last night called "How to die in Oregon" and it's about their right to die laws, which was the 1st state in the US that adopted these laws (MAID law). They are incredibly strict though - the ONLY way to get approved is if you have a terminal illness and have 6 months or less to live.
Originally, the protocol was 10 grams of Nembutal where they empty 100 capsules and mix it in 6oz of room temperature water. Drinking the powder is absorbed almost immediately - within 2-3 minutes, the patient will slip in to a coma and you are gone.
Because of the advent of much safer benzos, barbiturates are hardly ever prescribed anymore. The only remaining demand for Nembutal was right to die organizations and prisons for capital punishment. The company that owns the patent decided that they didn't like the idea of contributing to state executions, they then stopped selling to prisons which left only right to die orgs, which is a teensy tiny market and hardly worth the cost of tying up equipment and resources for small mfg runs. So they have basically stopped making it. If you are lucky enough to have a prescription, you usually have to take the script to a compounding pharmacy (it's easy to make).
So the place in Oregon then switched to Seconal, also a barbiturate. This too became extremely expensive because doctors hardly ever prescribe barbiturates anymore.
They now use a 3 drug mix. Propofol, which is the drug most often given as a general anesthetic before surgery. The problem with Propofol is it wears off in as little as 5-10 minutes. This is why they feed it via IV continuously during surgery.
The other 2 drugs was one that paralyzes all your muscles and the last one stops the heart.
California also uses this 3 drug protocol for their MAID laws.
This got me thinking. What other kinds of barbiturates might still be in use? Better yet, anything that is a central nervous system depressant is what I need.
I don't need anything that would make me ctb - I just need something that will make me pass out, and I'll have a large garbage bag over my head to insure I ctb.
By far, the most widely accessible barbiturate is butalbital. In the US, I found a pharmacy that prescribes Fioricet (butalbital) for migraines. All that's needed is a telemedicine 5 minute conversation with their doctor.
I then looked simply for drugs that are CNS depressants, this same pharmacy has Flexeril, which is a muscle relaxant that works as a CNS depressant.
Here is my plan. Get butalbital and Flexeril prescribed by said online doctor. This might be overkill but I was thinking to add 7-OH (from Kratom), which is more like oxy than Kratom. Apparently, it's 13x stronger than morphine. Indeed, a lot of people are ODing on it, so it will be outlawed soon.
My only goal is to lose consciousness. I will use a large garbage bag, which will allow me to breathe normally for 20-30 minutes so I don't get hypercapnia immediately. Crush up or empty all pills/capsules. Drink with warm water quickly. I will fast for 24 hours beforehand. Take drink, wait until I feel the drowsiness coming on, and then secure garbage bag.
Actually, the prescriptions aren't even needed. I think I'll just order 7-OH. Crush them up. Then drink alcohol to potentiate the 7-OH. Once I'm a little drunk (but not too drunk), I take the powdered 7-OH, which will make it absorb immediately. There is no question that this would make you pass out. People who aren't used to opiates might want to take an AE beforehand. Im very experience, however, and won't need it.
7-OH + alcohol + garbage bag would be no different than Nembutal. And it's a guarantee that you ctb. This is replacing my original method, which was night night, but instead of socks or corn bags, I was going to use 2 inflatable "air shims" which go on the sides of the neck and the ratchet is not tight around your airway - it's just there to insure the force of the airbags goes straight in to the carotid (like the KRA cuff and the new Kairo's Kollar from Exit Intl (not actually available yet).
I'm going to order the strongest 7-OH tablets I can find. Screw the hassle to get a prescription (and $$$).
For those that don't know, 7-OH is extracted from Kratom and is a legit opioid agonist said to be 13x stronger than morphine. In the US there have been a rash of accidental ODs. They are legal and can be easily purchased online. Remember, I don't care if it's unlikely to result in ctb, that doesn't matter. It just has to knock me out in to a semi-coma.
For those of you trying to get Nembutal on the DW, you can pretty much assume it's a scam. Plus, even a valid prescription can be thousands of dollars. If I knew how to use the DW, I would just get propofol and employ the plastic bag.
I watched a documentary last night called "How to die in Oregon" and it's about their right to die laws, which was the 1st state in the US that adopted these laws (MAID law). They are incredibly strict though - the ONLY way to get approved is if you have a terminal illness and have 6 months or less to live.
Originally, the protocol was 10 grams of Nembutal where they empty 100 capsules and mix it in 6oz of room temperature water. Drinking the powder is absorbed almost immediately - within 2-3 minutes, the patient will slip in to a coma and you are gone.
Because of the advent of much safer benzos, barbiturates are hardly ever prescribed anymore. The only remaining demand for Nembutal was right to die organizations and prisons for capital punishment. The company that owns the patent decided that they didn't like the idea of contributing to state executions, they then stopped selling to prisons which left only right to die orgs, which is a teensy tiny market and hardly worth the cost of tying up equipment and resources for small mfg runs. So they have basically stopped making it. If you are lucky enough to have a prescription, you usually have to take the script to a compounding pharmacy (it's easy to make).
So the place in Oregon then switched to Seconal, also a barbiturate. This too became extremely expensive because doctors hardly ever prescribe barbiturates anymore.
They now use a 3 drug mix. Propofol, which is the drug most often given as a general anesthetic before surgery. The problem with Propofol is it wears off in as little as 5-10 minutes. This is why they feed it via IV continuously during surgery.
The other 2 drugs was one that paralyzes all your muscles and the last one stops the heart.
California also uses this 3 drug protocol for their MAID laws.
This got me thinking. What other kinds of barbiturates might still be in use? Better yet, anything that is a central nervous system depressant is what I need.
I don't need anything that would make me ctb - I just need something that will make me pass out, and I'll have a large garbage bag over my head to insure I ctb.
By far, the most widely accessible barbiturate is butalbital. In the US, I found a pharmacy that prescribes Fioricet (butalbital) for migraines. All that's needed is a telemedicine 5 minute conversation with their doctor.
I then looked simply for drugs that are CNS depressants, this same pharmacy has Flexeril, which is a muscle relaxant that works as a CNS depressant.
Here is my plan. Get butalbital and Flexeril prescribed by said online doctor. This might be overkill but I was thinking to add 7-OH (from Kratom), which is more like oxy than Kratom. Apparently, it's 13x stronger than morphine. Indeed, a lot of people are ODing on it, so it will be outlawed soon.
My only goal is to lose consciousness. I will use a large garbage bag, which will allow me to breathe normally for 20-30 minutes so I don't get hypercapnia immediately. Crush up or empty all pills/capsules. Drink with warm water quickly. I will fast for 24 hours beforehand. Take drink, wait until I feel the drowsiness coming on, and then secure garbage bag.
Actually, the prescriptions aren't even needed. I think I'll just order 7-OH. Crush them up. Then drink alcohol to potentiate the 7-OH. Once I'm a little drunk (but not too drunk), I take the powdered 7-OH, which will make it absorb immediately. There is no question that this would make you pass out. People who aren't used to opiates might want to take an AE beforehand. Im very experience, however, and won't need it.
7-OH + alcohol + garbage bag would be no different than Nembutal. And it's a guarantee that you ctb. This is replacing my original method, which was night night, but instead of socks or corn bags, I was going to use 2 inflatable "air shims" which go on the sides of the neck and the ratchet is not tight around your airway - it's just there to insure the force of the airbags goes straight in to the carotid (like the KRA cuff and the new Kairo's Kollar from Exit Intl (not actually available yet).
I'm going to order the strongest 7-OH tablets I can find. Screw the hassle to get a prescription (and $$$).
For those that don't know, 7-OH is extracted from Kratom and is a legit opioid agonist said to be 13x stronger than morphine. In the US there have been a rash of accidental ODs. They are legal and can be easily purchased online. Remember, I don't care if it's unlikely to result in ctb, that doesn't matter. It just has to knock me out in to a semi-coma.
For those of you trying to get Nembutal on the DW, you can pretty much assume it's a scam. Plus, even a valid prescription can be thousands of dollars. If I knew how to use the DW, I would just get propofol and employ the plastic bag.
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