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Is social media (mostly instagram) fueling youth worsening mental health & suicides?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 53.3%
  • No

    Votes: 9 10.0%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 23 25.6%
  • Cant decide

    Votes: 10 11.1%

  • Total voters
    90
Snake of Eden

Snake of Eden

“Ye shall be as gods..🍎 🐍”
Jun 22, 2021
2,473
But my friends are hot, and I love seeing the new clothes they buy and how their hair and nails turn out. If anything, ig and twitter are very supportive for them. I have a bunch of followers too, mainly posting concert vids and working on my cars and motorcycles.

Not quite sure what the issue is. I follow a bunch of fitness models. They don't make me feel bad, just give me added incentive to work harder. I know I'll never be as attractive as them, but that's life. Would it be better for us to all be clones with no differences?
People have different ways of dealing with their insecurities. Some laugh at their own flaws and make a light of it. Some people feel very much less and inferior by comparing themselves with others. Dealing with insecurities is a skill that requires emotional intelligence, understanding of what life is about which comes with experience and maturity. Young ones are especially susceptible to feeling insecure as looks are everything to them and they hardly can see anything beyond skin deep. Of course fitness following can motivate people to strive to be healthier which is a good message but that in turn is corrupted with unattainable standards and rhetoric that makes people feel they are not doing enough when they cant look exactly like the models they are following. It is a shitshow if you ask me. My younger brother is completely consumed with the fitness craze. He is deeply insecure and no matter how fit he is, it is not good enough. It is sad to see honestly because life is much more than some abs and tones arms and legs.
 
Somber

Somber

Arcanist
Jan 6, 2022
457
Instagram may provide photoshopped pictures depicting an idealized life that is unattainable to most, but so do commercials and they aren't limited to just one platform.

Maybe it would be best to educate (especially young) people that Instagram is all about cosplay and commercials are all about profits.
 
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Snake of Eden

Snake of Eden

“Ye shall be as gods..🍎 🐍”
Jun 22, 2021
2,473
Facebook owns ig. They have completely different business models, and generate revenue in different ways.
Facebook didnt create instagram. It was competition for awhile until they got bought but i forgot about it. My point is that IG is the worst out of all of them. It really needs to be brought to the light for what is doing to mental health more so than anything else out there
 
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myopybyproxy

flickerbeat \\ gibberish-noise
Dec 18, 2021
864
Not quite sure what the issue is. I follow a bunch of fitness models. They don't make me feel bad, just give me added incentive to work harder. I know I'll never be as attractive as them, but that's life. Would it be better for us to all be clones with no differences?
You are of a subset of people who have a healthy mindset. Not everyone is blessed to be like this. What some may see as motivating, others may find cause to despair. I do not think this difference in interpretation is sufficient grounds for censoring the exchange of such content. If I know something upsets me, I avoid it. No need to force everyone around me to avoid it as well.

I couldn't hope to solve such a complex issue and thus I will not fight for political office. If these problems were so simple, society would be in a lot better place than it is now - but I have an inkling that they require collaboration and consideration of the nuances involved. There will not ever be a solution that satisfies everyone all the time - one size fits all is a marketing myth.

No one is saying it is ideal for everyone to be clones - where are you getting that?
 
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Snake of Eden

Snake of Eden

“Ye shall be as gods..🍎 🐍”
Jun 22, 2021
2,473
Instagram may provide photoshopped pictures depicting an idealized life that is unattainable to most, but so do commercials and they aren't limited to just one platform.

Maybe it would be best to educate (especially young) people that Instagram is all about cosplay and commercials are all about profits.
But the problem with IG is that it is supposedly showing real people, friends, aquintances, collegous, influencers. People naturally can dismiss commercials as highly touched but instagram has this effect where people just feel this is how things are in real life for the people they are following
 
Twiceler

Twiceler

Pro-suicide. Blackpill.
Dec 16, 2021
96
Never used instagram, and I don't understand what it stands for. I have no friends and no interests in news and trends, only music: audiotool, soundcloud, etc... I ruined my life long ago and I'm still suicidal in my early twenties. I always thought that people using social media are more positive and active in RL in general (than me, for example).
 
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summers

Visionary
Nov 4, 2020
2,493
It is sad to see honestly because life is much more than some abs and tones arms and legs.
Damn, you literally just destroyed my world :aw:

On another note, I will say, there needs to be a way to remove filters from pics and vids. People don't look like that, and that is in my opinion the most harmful things - it leads to unrealistic expectations that no one can meet.
 
Somber

Somber

Arcanist
Jan 6, 2022
457
But the problem with IG is that it is supposedly showing real people, friends, aquintances, collegous, influencers. People naturally can dismiss commercials as highly touched but instagram has this effect where people just feel this is how things are in real life for the people they are following
But that's the problem with all social media. There is no future in which social media cease to exist, so instead of trying to accomplish the impossible, why not educate children from a young age to understand what's going on so they may learn to form their own opinions about themselves instead of relying so much on others.
 
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summers

Visionary
Nov 4, 2020
2,493
But that's the problem with all social media. There is no future in which social media cease to exist, so instead of trying to accomplish the impossible, why not educate children from a young age to understand what's going on so they may learn to form their own opinions about themselves instead of relying so much on others.
We really need a filter removal app. Or at least every pic and vid that has a filter should clearly disclose that.
 
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Snake of Eden

Snake of Eden

“Ye shall be as gods..🍎 🐍”
Jun 22, 2021
2,473
Damn, you literally just destroyed my world :aw:

On another note, I will say, there needs to be a way to remove filters from pics and vids. People don't look like that, and that is in my opinion the most harmful things - it leads to unrealistic expectations that no one can meet.
But its not just the filters. The medium is about creating stories that are only feel good one-faceted. It doesnt take into account that even these happy seeming looking people have nuances to deal with in between taking the photos. It is like a fake versions of personal paradise that they are living while the viewer is left feeling inadequate and left out from experiencing the same paradise. It is extremely dangerous influence on weak minded people
 
Snake of Eden

Snake of Eden

“Ye shall be as gods..🍎 🐍”
Jun 22, 2021
2,473
But that's the problem with all social media. There is no future in which social media cease to exist, so instead of trying to accomplish the impossible, why not educate children from a young age to understand what's going on so they may learn to form their own opinions about themselves instead of relying so much on others.
I agree with you. I think this is a more realistic goal to expose the reality of those social media fakeness to the youth. I dont know honestly where to start but just making more and more people discuss and pay attention to this type of issue is a good start. I think that should be the goal. Shutting IG may not be a possible thing but striving to do it may bring impactful attention To the issue so it is examined more and is not left to be forgotten after the frenzy of it fizzles out
 
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Somber

Arcanist
Jan 6, 2022
457
We really need a filter removal app. Or at least every pic and vid that has a filter should clearly disclose that.
Just put in an autofilter so everyone looks fugly. Problem solved. 🤭
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,392
I have over 4600 followers in Instagram (probably mostly bots though) and I'm fully onboard with shutting it down. I feel like a lot of the people against our forum are confusing it for other social media like Instagram so when they see the news articles about teens CTB'ing because of Instagram they assume every website a teenager accessed is just as culpable. I would like for these bigger platforms to start feeling the heat too just so it could get the pressure off this site (which unlike those other social media actually seems to help a lot of people feel better simply by showing them they're not alone).

Why stop at Instagram? 4chan, Reddit, and Twitter will literally have people telling each other to kill themselves all the time over the stupidest things like if someone has a different opinion on an anime character for example. All this suicide encouragement goes on uncensored and freely among young people all the time in those places. Even methods gets discussed as well. I first learned about SN from somebody on 4chan who wanted me to kill myself over my difference in opinion telling me in great detail what to do and how it works.

Twitter even though it's full of fake people who think they don't want anyone to commit suicide is actually incredibly bloodthirsty and the platform is perfect for farming egos who will feel justified in wishing others dead simply because one's politics aren't considered ideal.
 
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BeansOfRequirement

BeansOfRequirement

Man-child, loser, autistic, etc.
Jan 26, 2021
5,803
The experiment is over, close it all up.
 
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lostautist

lostautist

wandering
Jan 12, 2022
225
Nobody has mentioned the tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars that the major platforms have spent to take advantage of and manipulate people on psychological positioning. Get them interested, get them addicted, manipulate algorithms to prey on people to make them spend more time and give these platforms more importance and influence against the well being of it's users, especially those with minds that have not fully developed that individually, some people can't cope with.

Sure, for the majority of people, it's not much of a concern and I don't personally have any issues with them, but I've seen first hand how people born with social media influencing their every thought and action have been detrimental to their developing minds. All you need to do is notice the growing cultural divide and toxicity that has come from all this. So much division and hatred, but it's not just social media anymore, though it's influence has shaped how mainstream media and people's perception of one another have changed.

The only real solution would be to prevent people access until they've reached the developmental capacity and to teach people how to spot and avoid becoming part of these trappings. It's probably too late to expect any paradigm shift but the future isn't looking great no matter which political, socioeconomic, ethic, or other group you fall into, belong or identify with. People are mostly falling into this re-segregation without even realizing this. We're all humans, everyone isn't perfect, many people who have suffered neglect, abuse and face other personal adversities may need more help than others, but the hate, division and self-absorption are now too strong. It doesn't cost anything to be nice, but there are fewer and fewer people who would care.
 
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ClownW0rld

ClownW0rld

It’s all so tiresome
May 13, 2020
26
Instagram is awful. TikTok is also extremely vicious. Not to mention all of these apps and services build an online profile of you and store your personal information for an eternity as well.
 
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SamTam33

Warlock
Oct 9, 2022
763
This is like wanting to ban alcohol or drugs because of "harmful effects."

Educate your children as to what's real. Inform them. Tell them the truth. E.g. some people look better than you and will have a better life than you.

Or you can't necessarily do what everyone else does. Let's explore areas you DO excel in.

I don't understand how we jump to banning something because it makes people feel bad about themselves. How the fuck do you think racism and sexism makes one feel?

If millions of people still have to deal with that shit, then your kids can deal with filtered pictures and extravagant vacation photos on IG.
 
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Winterreise

Experienced
Jun 27, 2022
260
They want what is inside our heads. Ideas, hopes and dreams. Everything you share is stolen. Your words. Your credibility.
I hate when software designers try to turn computers into what they are not. Slow, abstract, in control of the user not vice versa, non intuitive,
 
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