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befree

befree

Time to do more enjoyable things _____Goodbye_____
Mar 22, 2022
2,585
Someone had started a thread yesterday regarding N from A. The user has published too many details regarding label, shipping, e-mail address and full name. The thread has been deleted.

Together with a friend I am since 2 weeks in e-mail contact with the source N from A. We have done a lot of research before we decided to write an e-mail.
I´m not allowed to mention the e-mail address we used and his name here. If you want these datails, send me a PM.

The first name is identical to the first name that the user mentioned here yesterday (A.........).
But the last name is similar, but not the same (V..........) ! Only the last 5 letters are identical.

We asked A if he would be able to ship from the EU to other EU-countries because we are concerned about customs. He said yes and sent us prices, payment infos and shipping method. I´m not allowed to mention prices or shipping details here.

Now we asked him to send us photos showing the bottles, bottle cap, expiry date and a photo with a handwritten note with current date and bottles.

His answer yesterday: "fuck you"
 
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SuicidallyCurious

Enlightened
Dec 20, 2020
1,715
I'm pretty sure no one orders from A anymore because he is either a scammer or just totally unreliable
 
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VoidDesirer22

VoidDesirer22

A dream inside a locked room
Sep 6, 2021
673
A is a scammer.

D is the only reliable N source available on planet earth.
 
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downndone2

Living in misery
Jan 23, 2022
1,270
I joined back in Dec or jan and remember seeing many posts advising to no longer buy from him.
 
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Al_stargate

Al_stargate

I was once a pretty angel
Mar 4, 2022
743
Perhaps trying to get back or someone pretending to be him. Almost certainly a scammer, trying to con desperate people. What a sack of shit. Thanks for doing the work exposing this human waste.
 
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symphony

symphony

surving hour-by-hour
Mar 12, 2022
779
Perhaps trying to get back or someone pretending to be him. Almost certainly a scammer, trying to con desperate people. What a sack of shit. Thanks for doing the work exposing this human waste.
Seriously... talk about preying on the vulnerable.
 
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deathbydragon

deathbydragon

take me with you
Mar 17, 2022
189
Wonder if we'll ever find out what happened with A. I recall people said they were inactive for several months in 2020, but came back, then a few months later their reliability went out the window. Their email getting hacked I see is a popular theory, but if so, why has the legit A not said anything, emailed prior clients to get the word out?
 
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intheweeds

intheweeds

Student
Mar 20, 2019
182
So people are claiming A is a scammer now? I ordered successfully from him in 2015.
You guys are using the email address listed in the latest version of Final Exit, right?
 
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Smart No More

Visionary
May 5, 2021
2,734
So people are claiming A is a scammer now? I ordered successfully from him in 2015.
You guys are using the email address listed in the latest version of Final Exit, right?
Thw email address gor taken over by a scammer or he just started scamming. It's odd because there does appear to be a link between A & D but one is legit and the other has been a scammer for at least a couple of years. Anyone using that address will lose their money and it has been removed from the pph.
 
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lymestolemylife

Student
Nov 27, 2019
139
I tested a bottle from A V. And it tested positive for BAR. Used a urine test and used a few drops and added water in the test cup. I got 2bttles in August 2021. Wonder if he started scamming after I got mine. I have no expiration date or anything. Wish i could feel more settled in using them. There does in fact appear to be a link between A and D because they use the same exact wording in the email template that is sent out. Odd.
 
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Smart No More

Visionary
May 5, 2021
2,734
I tested a bottle from A V. And it tested positive for BAR. Used a urine test and used a few drops and added water in the test cup. I got 2bttles in August 2021. Wonder if he started scamming after I got mine. I have no expiration date or anything. Wish i could feel more settled in using them. There does in fact appear to be a link between A and D because they use the same exact wording in the email template that is sent out. Odd.
There are a few linking factors. The way the packaging is done is the same. Down to labels etc. Quite unusual but probably a pretty logical reason. That said, there musr have been some LE interaction of some kind because some people that bought from A were visited by LE in Franch and the UK apparently. Maybe after getting busted the burned email address was taken over by rivals or just bad actors deciding to keep it open as a scam whilst moving legit operations to a new address. Wouldn't be beyond the morality of a cartel. If there's no actual sales made through the old (now scam) address then there's no legal repercussions and to them it would be illogical to cut off a source of revenue. D remains legit though and for now that's what's important.

I'd say your bottles are more than likely legitimate. There's no incentive to send fake N. They'd just send nothing. Sealing bottle and diluting or switching out the solution is more work that they judt wouldn't bother with. It's not practical in any scenario. Still, I understand your trepidation. The test you did suggest a relatively reasonable concentration but you could further test the concentration by taking a drop from the first diluted sample and testing that. Rinse and repeat until the test shows negative. Should be at least 3 positive results if done right. Theres a vid on it on exits site. It's around the forum somewhere too. From what I remember it was around 1ml in a litre of water at the start and then 1ml from each subsequent bottle diluted into the next bottle so it gets exponentially diluted. Takes a few tests obviously. Bit laborious but worth it for peace of mind. Hope I explained that well enough. Go by the video not my description as its not precise.
 
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wljourney

wljourney

Waiting for the bus
Apr 2, 2022
1,419
I have heard about D in several places but never can get contact info. I really need some N.
Browse the forums.
Read the PPeH.
Learn from others.


PPH-November 2021 version
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-file-to-alternative-sites.86591/post-1557748

There also some threads on here, like "N from D Megathread" where you can pick up more info.
 
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VoidDesirer22

VoidDesirer22

A dream inside a locked room
Sep 6, 2021
673
D is not the only reliable source. D is just the only source we know of.
But it is the sensible course of action to not allow other users on their own witch hunt for another. This is dangerous.
I am not speaking theoretically, but practically that D is the only reliable source, for the benefit of other users.
 
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