i'm only just don't like the life or the world anymore

[Akerblad]

i just don't like this world anymore, i'm tired of the violence, here, outside, anywhere, i'm tired of the people, of the depression, the loneliness. lack of support, i'm even tired of myself, i'm tired of the anger and frustration, i'm more hostile toward people, everyone live his life and i can't do it nothing, i get worse and worse, every time that pass i feel like i'm dying inside more and more and i'm getting rotten to the core, angry, depressed, weary, sleepy and feeling more violent all the time, i just feel that i'm an usless, and i don't have anything, even someone who i can talk, nothing more problems, really i am a living dead, even trying with all my force i can't get help, i tried to escape that situation, i tried to overcome and recover, but i only had found obstacles and problems, i give up, i just can't going anymore.

 

[haddy28]

Same honestly, for me I always feel super unmotivated and tired of everything. Like the world is shit and there's really no point in being here anymore because nothing will change.

 

[FuneralCry]

I do not like this world at all, I see life as being very depressing and nothing would ever make me want to live. I do not want to exist in a world where there is so much suffering. To me, it is horrifying that life is even a thing in the first place. It can be very dreadful when things just get worse. More than anything I want to be free from this world.

 

[jimmy7754]

Why can't I win?

 

[hopelessgirl]

Same

 

[OldDrummer]

Please take this with a pinch of salt, or consider it complete woo-woo, but I heard an interesting theory recently.

There are millions of worlds in the universe into which you can be born on.

Most of them are relatively peaceful and docile, but you never develop as a soul in such places.

Planet Earth is considered to be one of the most toughest and hardest worlds to be incarnated into.

It's a bit like the US Marines or French Foreign Legion of bootcamps.

Believe it or not, we apparently choose this place to get born into because it's the one we can advance and learn the most in!

Crazy, I know.

 

[Superdeterminist]

Please take this with a pinch of salt, or consider it complete woo-woo, but I heard an interesting theory recently.

There are millions of worlds in the universe into which you can be born on.

Most of them are relatively peaceful and docile, but you never develop as a soul in such places.

Planet Earth is considered to be one of the most toughest and hardest worlds to be incarnated into.

It's a bit like the US Marines or French Foreign Legion of bootcamps.

Believe it or not, we apparently choose this place to get born into because it's the one we can advance and learn the most in!

Crazy, I know.

I personally am not a fan of the 'soul-building' theories. They tend to be used be theists as a justification for the cruelty apparent in the world. If I existed before my birth then why don't I have any recollection of that time? Also, I don't think I'm taking any 'lessons' with me...And, there are endless torments on this planet that could not possibly teach someone anything. For example, earthquakes that just happen unavoidably, killing people and shattering families.

 

[OldDrummer]

I personally am not a fan of the 'soul-building' theories. They tend to be used be theists as a justification for the cruelty apparent in the world. If I existed before my birth then why don't I have any recollection of that time? Also, I don't think I'm taking any 'lessons' with me...And, there are endless torments on this planet that could not possibly teach someone anything. For example, earthquakes that just happen unavoidably, killing people and shattering families.

I'm an atheist myself. I believe in rationality and empirical evidence.

In Buddhism, they say there's a few realms you can be born into. There's a hell-realm and a God-realm with earth somewhere in the middle.

They say the God realm is the worst to be born into and that you can never learn compassion nor empathy in that realm. They kinda live forever up there without much suffering.

Personally, self-growth and education are paramount. If I really didn't want suffering, then I should be reborn as a blade of grass or a piece of stone.

But the one lesson I've learned in this life, is that the most important thing is to reduce the suffering of others.

Apologies for all the hippy-dippy crap!

 

[Superdeterminist]

I'm an atheist myself. I believe in rationality and empirical evidence.

In Buddhism, they say there's a few realms you can be born into. There's a hell-realm and a God-realm with earth somewhere in the middle.

They say the God realm is the worst to be born into and that you can never learn compassion nor empathy in that realm. They kinda live forever up there without much suffering.

Personally, self-growth and education are paramount. If I really didn't want suffering, then I should be reborn as a blade of grass or a piece of stone.

But the one lesson I've learned in this life, is that the most important thing is to reduce the suffering of others.

Apologies for all the hippy-dippy crap!

To me the god realm sounds a lot better than this place...not much suffering? Yeah I'd rather be there.

 

[OldDrummer]

To me the god realm sounds a lot better than this place...not much suffering? Yeah I'd rather be there.

They say a day in that realm is 27,000 years in ours!

Suffering is so very rare there, they tend to mock those in need. Again, it's a very self-centred ego-led existence.

It's a bit like a million-year spring break!

Actually doesn't sound to bad, does it?

But there must be a point where pleasure for it's own sake burns itself out.

 

[Superdeterminist]

They say a day in that realm is 27,000 years in ours!

Suffering is so very rare there, they tend to mock those in need. Again, it's a very self-centred ego-led existence.

It's a bit like a million-year spring break!

Actually doesn't sound to bad, does it?

But there must be a point where pleasure for it's own sake burns itself out.

To me, a 'pleasure burn out' is but another form of suffering. It doesn't seem possible to sustain happiness for one's whole life here on earth. But we don't know what the laws of alternative worlds could allow.

 

[OldDrummer]

To me, a 'pleasure burn out' is but another form of suffering. It doesn't seem possible to sustain happiness for one's whole life here on earth. But we don't know what the laws of alternative worlds could allow.

No, we don't, but it doesn't hurt to speculate, read the works of others and conduct our own thought experiments on the essential truths just like Buddha, Tesla and Einstein did.

What would you ever learn in an existence of total paradise? Even if you did have just one life to live?

 

[motel rooms]

What would you ever learn in an existence of total paradise? Even if you did have just one life to live?

What does a trafficked child that gets raped, beaten, maimed & killed on this planet learn?

 

[Superdeterminist]

No, we don't, but it doesn't hurt to speculate, read the works of others and conduct our own thought experiments on the essential truths just like Buddha, Tesla and Einstein did.

What would you ever learn in an existence of total paradise? Even if you did have just one life to live?

I don't view learning as the ultimate virtue. Personally I think happiness is the most important. Though leaning can be fun, in a way I think it's a shame that we have to learn anything at all to overcome the problems were are beset with here on earth, which we never asked for and imo, would be much better off without.

 

[Someone123]

What does a trafficked child that gets raped, beaten, maimed & killed on this planet learn?

That is a good question, since I don't think I benefitted in any way from the hellish things I've been through either. Sometimes I think maybe I did something horrible in a previous life and this is payback so that I know what it's like to be on the other side of it, but I do think that this is very unlikely- not completely impossible though.

 

[Superdeterminist]

That is a good question, since I don't think I benefitted in any way from the hellish things I've been through either. Sometimes I think maybe I did something horrible in a previous life and this is payback so that I know what it's like to be on the other side of it, but I do think that this is very unlikely- not completely impossible though.

The problem I see with karmic ideas like that are: how do you explain why you ever gained karmic debt to pay in the first place? Like in your very first life, why would you ever have done anything 'horrible'? So-called 'free choice'? Such a thing is logically impossible.

 

[Someone123]

The problem I see with karmic ideas like that are: how do you explain why you ever gained karmic debt to pay in the first place? Like in your very first life, why would you ever have done anything 'horrible'? So-called 'free choice'? Such a thing is logically impossible.

It's not logically impossible if in your first life there is no planned punishment but that any negative experiences that happen are a result of chance in a world where random chance gives suffering at times and joy at times. It is possible that some sufferinjg is planned to teach something and some is just random chance in a world that contains suffering.

 

[Superdeterminist]

It's not logically impossible if in your first life there is no planned punishment but that any negative experiences that happen are a result of chance in a world where random chance gives suffering at times and joy at times. It is possible that some sufferinjg is planned to teach something and some is just random chance in a world that contains suffering.

So if you acted horribly to others in your first life, it would just be due to chance that you did so...but how is it then fair to punish you for those horrible acts? You were just the victim of chance. I can't see how it's fair. A god could hypothetically set up such a system, but I would call him unreasonable and cruel.

 

[Someone123]

So if you acted horribly to others in your first life, it would just be due to chance that you did so...but how is it then fair to punish you for those horrible acts? You were just the victim of chance. I can't see how it's fair. A god could hypothetically set up such a system, but I would call him unreasonable and cruel.

It's not fair, but almost nothing in this world is fair. If the world was fair that would eliminate almost all suffering- the world is the farthest thing from fair.

 

[Anxieyote]

At some point, it becomes a race to the bottom. I notice myself becoming more impatient and hateful towards others as time goes on, and I used to be a very chill person.

Inevitably you have to start handing out "fuck you's" to certain people to protect yourself from being manipulated or hurt, and once that process begins, I think it corrupts the soul.

 

[Superdeterminist]

It's not fair, but almost nothing in this world is fair. If the world was fair that would eliminate almost all suffering- the world is the farthest thing from fair.

I can't disprove it. But why appeal to a whole story about multiple lives and karmic lessons, we can achieve the same unfairness with a theory that just stipulates specific physical laws that are what they are, with the same 'just because' chance?

 

[whatevs]

The problem I see with karmic ideas like that are: how do you explain why you ever gained karmic debt to pay in the first place? Like in your very first life, why would you ever have done anything 'horrible'? So-called 'free choice'? Such a thing is logically impossible.

Karma is a just a concept, and a concept is normally an approximation, in this case a justifiably vague one, but actually useful. I envision Karma as some sort of weight that you accrue with selfish, sadistic acts, and dharma to the losing of some of that weight via selfless acts or just not lusting after the things that life has to offer in exchange for partaking in killing and struggling.

The overarching idea is that there some sort of force/impulse/kinetic energy behind life, and that we can send it in a different direction by doing the complete opposite of what our instinct says: to lie, to steal, to attach to people and things.

I don't even know if its really like that or if this path can bring ME calm, but if a buddhist monk can sit still while being burned alive or becoming mummified he probably has achieved something extraordinary beforehand.

 

[Rational man]

I think the world has got darker, especially now. A kind of heavy overwhelming atmosphere.

 

[Superdeterminist]

Karma is a just a concept, and a concept is normally an approximation, in this case a justifiably vague one, but actually useful. I envision Karma as some sort of weight that you accrue with selfish, sadistic acts, and dharma to the losing of some of that weight via selfless acts or just not lusting after the things that life has to offer in exchange for partaking in killing and struggling.The overarching idea is that there some sort of force/impulse/kinetic energy behind life, and that we can send it in a different direction by doing the complete opposite of what our instinct says: to lie, to steal, to attach to people and things.I don't even know if its really like that or if this path can bring ME calm, but if a buddhist monk can sit still while being burned alive or becoming mummified he probably has achieve something extraordinary beforehand.

In terms of theories to explain the universe, I personally don't value what is useful, but what seems true. Again I can't completely disprove karma, but so far I haven't been sold. Personally I think if I were to see a monk self-immolating whilst maintaining perfect composure, I would be more overcome with shock than awe.I would want to know how he achieved it, but I don't think it would compel me to consider past lives.

 

[ikadasui]

Yeah, honestly... it's incredibly fucked up and each time I browse social media in any form I'm bombarded with more fucked up catastrophe's that pull me out of my own nightmareish circle to just stare in awe. Not a single bit of it encourages me wanting to stay though, and pair that with horribly physical pain and labor it's no wonder I want to die

 

[Someone123]

I can't disprove it. But why appeal to a whole story about multiple lives and karmic lessons, we can achieve the same unfairness with a theory that just stipulates specific physical laws that are what they are, with the same 'just because' chance?

The reason to consider the idea of multiple lives and karmic lessons is because I have heard several pretty convincing testimonies from people who had near death experiences (ndes) (on youtube) where people were told that they agreed to the suffering they were going to go through in this life before they ever started on this life, though I don't recall seeing testimonies about this in relation to child abuse.

 

[motel rooms]

I can't disprove it. But why appeal to a whole story about multiple lives and karmic lessons, we can achieve the same unfairness with a theory that just stipulates specific physical laws that are what they are, with the same 'just because' chance?

All I know is that anyone who told me that it was necessary for a child to be abused for any reason would end up crawling on the floor & gathering their teeth.

 

[BitterlyAlive_]

I can relate to a lot of what you wrote, I imagine others here can as well. The world is too much. Yes it's a beautiful place, yes there's food and beautiful people despite what we see and are told daily.

But it's not enough. I'm begin weary of this world. I'm growing tired of my friends too, wondering how much longer we have until things fall apart. There's more issues but I don't want to talk about them here. Tired of talking about things with people. Starting to be unable to help people when they need to talk, getting more frustrated with/tired of myself. Life is becoming more and more of a chore. Becoming too difficult to stay

 

[whatevs]

In terms of theories to explain the universe, I personally don't value what is useful, but what seems true. Again I can't completely disprove karma, but so far I haven't been sold. Personally I think if I were to see a monk self-immolating whilst maintaining perfect composure, I would be more overcome with shock than awe.I would want to know how he achieved it, but I don't think it would compel me to consider past lives.

Well, but it seems true that there is something before and after life, because something doesn't come from nothing. What I suggested was something like kinetic force, inertia, or gravity. I believe "Karma" is just a conceptual tool to refer to this force (that we all come from and experience every day), which would originally tend towards life, that is, separation, which is conflict, which is suffering. By becoming celibate, eating scarcely, enduring physical hardships and being mendicants Buddhist monks sought to bend that energy in the opposite direction.

I don't think I tried to explain the Universe and I don't think that anyone presently can. For me, Buddhist-like explanations of how to overcome life understood as inherently miserable or how life can be seen as some kind of addiction are quite satisfactory, excluding reincarnation which I don't understand or can imagine as possible. I think it's more of a metaphor of how once the illusion of separation is overcome you should realize that you are all that ever was and all there will ever be.