im deciding to become incel fully,not the hateful kind though. is it good idea?any other incels here?

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

to blame for any of this (except my insane mother, perhaps).

i did not blame women for anything i simply stated why i prefer to remain single forever and why women have privileges in society , courts, relationships etc backed up by stats and logic.

 

[Pluto]

i did not blame women for anything i simply stated why i prefer to remain single forever and why women have privileges in society , courts, relationships etc backed up by stats and logic.

Speaking of logic, your preference to remain single forever doesn't gel with 'involuntary celibacy'.

Family law is not the cause of your unhapppiness, especially if you have never had to make a single payment towards a child.

Please leave 'women' alone and deal with your shit.

 

[Chinaski]

ahhh yes assumptions lead you to being wrong in the first place but yet you persist .

Your post is unambiguously misogynistic and poisonous. This is a statement of fact. There are no hairs to split, no finer points to debate.

 

[Pluto]

I just want to add, if you admit that you are a confused young man looking for an identity and needing mentoring, I'd have a lot more to offer than if you barge in here with your ignorant bluster that marginalises the extreme suffering that many women on this website have been through. I would suggest adopting more humility and respect for others if you hope to gain benefit from this community.

 

[nightnightnitrite]

Abuse of men to women has been happening far longer and on far greater scales. Yes the trial was good to bring up that it isn't always men but it's funny how this is the only time men are speaking up against dv. Where was your voice during the me too movement? (Silent huh?) It also takes two to tango, if you get a woman pregnant how do you think that happens? Wrap it up and be safe if you don't want to pay for child support. Parental leave is the main excuse to pay women less. Not going to lie, you say you aren't being hateful but I think no matter what, 'incels' will always be angry at women's lack of attention/body. Idk where being a woman is so great and we have so many advantages come from lmao. Many men ruined womens life with actually raping them, not 'accusations'. We aren't here to make sure you feel loved, that's not our job. We are our own people trying to make it in a man run world. Also let's mention the fact that on my birthday, I lost the right to many reproductive health services that only affect women. Open your eyes. When was the last time men lost a right? Oh wait....

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

Your post is unambiguously misogynistic and poisonous. This is a statement of fact. There are no hairs to split, no finer points to debate.

its because of men like you that women still have far more privileges and men are seen as bad, you put other men down while being a pandering simp, hows life in the matrix going blue piller> in fact dont reply to me any longer, i only talk to unplugged people.
not blue pilled normies whos immediate reaction to any mens rights/gender dynamics discussions that even mention women have advantage is " You misgoyntst!!" " Women Hater!!!"....... look at the stats, numbers and stats dont lie.

hat many women on this website

this is what im talking about? why is it that only women's suffering matters? men are disposable? men are not human?

Abuse of men to women has been happening far longer and on far greater scales

Women more likely to be perpetrators of abuse as well as victims - News - University of Florida

news.ufl.edu

 

[Chinaski]

its because of men like you that women still have far more privileges and men are seen as bad, you put other men down while being a pandering simp, hows life in the matrix going blue piller> in fact dont reply to me any longer, i only talk to unplugged people.
not blue pilled normies whos immediate reaction to any mens rights/gender dynamics discussions that even mention women have advantage is " You misgoyntst!!" " Women Hater!!!"....... look at the stats, numbers and stats dont lie.

Absolutely love how "normie" is routinely banded around as a pejorative by the people who are evidently the least capable of independent thought, literally everything in that post was cribbed from some forum of embittered chauvinistic pricks.

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

the least capable of independent thought, literally everything

ahh yes women are special and men are not humans, innocent precious women can do no wrong, all men are bad.


sounds like sheepish think to me normie.

 

[imtrying]

please show me and quote where i said this thank you.

It was an honest question, but I'll take your answer as a no.

 

[Pluto]

this is what im talking about? why is it that only women's suffering matters? men are disposable? men are not human?

This is a diverse community. A community only functions if people care for others, including those different from themselves.

There are many injustices in the world, and low-status/low-income people tend to be most badly afflicted. Even so, it would be dangerous to forge alliances with other underdeveloped men, as the same force that gives you solidarity and validation will prevent you from maturing and developing into the best version of yourself. It also goes against the spirit of this website in my opinion.

My advice is to pass through this blame-game phase as quickly as possible and become open to listening to the life experience of older people who can point you away from trouble.

 

[Julgran]

ahh yes women are special and men are not humans, innocent precious women can do no wrong, all men are bad.


sounds like sheepish think to me normie.

Some may understand where you are coming from with your discussion points, but the fact remains that the world is what it is, and you may be able to improve your situation if you focus on improving your life circumstances, instead of focusing on how potentially easy women's lives are, because the latter simply won't lead anywhere.

In short, you are somewhat right, but there's no use in blaming anyone specific for how our world has turned out.

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

Some may understand where you are coming from with your discussion points, but the fact remains that the world is what it is, and you may be able to improve your situation if you focus on improving your life circumstances, instead of focusing on how potentially easy women's lives are, because the latter simply won't lead anywhere.

In short, you are somewhat right, but there's no use in blaming anyone specific for how our world has turned out.

im not blaming WOMEN IM BLAMING SOCIETY. Both men (as you see here) and Women are responsible for pedestalizing women.

 

[Julgran]

im not blaming WOMEN IM BLAMING SOCIETY. Both men (as you see here) and Women are responsible for pedestalizing women.

I see, but you have to realize that when someone who's not afflicted with this kind of a problem, sees what you are writing, they will think that you are coming from a completely different planet. It doesn't matter whether you are right, or not, because some people are unable to empathize with others who are facing problems that they themselves aren't affected by - and, also, as I implied earlier, the world has not changed a bit since you started this thread. The reason the world hasn't changed since you started this thread is that it's quite a significant problem to deal with.

A few posts in this thead have determined to shed some light on the situation.

My own theory is that this planet is simply too overpopulated for dating to work properly.

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

I see, but you have to realize that when someone who's not afflicted with this kind of a problem, sees what you are writing, they will think that you are coming from a completely different planet. It doesn't matter whether you are right, or not, because some people are unable to empathize with others who are facing problems that they themselves aren't affected by - and, also, as I implied earlier, the world has not changed a bit since you started this thread. The reason the world hasn't changed since you started this thread is that it's quite a significant problem to deal with.

A few posts in this thead have determined to shed some light on the situation.

My own theory is that this planet is simply too overpopulated for dating to work properly.

yeah youre right hundred percent, to them im just attacking women and being sexist.
While im simply stating why i chosen to be single and give up on women.
To them they get shocked and take it personally when a man decides to go his own way and not value sex or relationships anymore it confuses their blue pilled mind.

 

[Julgran]

While im simply stating why i chosen to be single and give up on women.

This seems to be the core problem that members here disagree with you about.

I mean, they are probably thinking "So, if you have decided to life a solitary life, why did you create a thread in which you mentioned women?". In other words, if you actually thought that living alone was a good option for you, you wouldn't even feel the urge to create this thread. Do you see what I mean? People usually infer meaning where there may be none, so they may - willingly or unwillingly - misinterpret what you write.

 

[Pluto]

it confuses their blue pilled mind.

If you choose to join a victimhood cult espousing a distorted world-view, please don't imply that other people are brainwashed. Psychological projection is as primitive and juvenile as claiming that 'society' is to blame for your internal emotional state. Why ask people if it is a 'good idea' to associate with a victimhood cult if you've already made up your mind?

Plenty of rational people have tried to offer you guidance but your ego is too infantile to pay attention. I will be reporting your post and hope that this thread is locked.

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

This seems to be the core problem that members here disagree with you about.

I mean, they are probably thinking "So, if you have decided to life a solitary life, why did you create a thread in which you mentioned women?". In other words, if you actually thought that living alone was a good option for you, you wouldn't even feel the urge to create this thread. Do you see what I mean? People usually infer meaning where there may be none, so they may - willingly or unwillingly - misinterpret what you write.

yeah too true i see what youre saying i rather just ignore those/

If you choose to join a victimhood cult espousing a distorted world-view, please don't imply that other people are brainwashed. Psychological projection is as primitive and juvenile as claiming that 'society' is to blame for your internal emotional state. Why ask people if it is a 'good idea' to associate with a victimhood cult if you've already made up your mind?

Plenty of rational people have tried to offer you guidance but your ego is too infantile to pay attention. I will be reporting your post and hope that this thread is locked.

sorry i have a right to not want to get into relationships and as i said ive given stats to back up why society is favorable to women, stats and numbers dont care about your feelings so sorry it offends you that i chosen to stay single and speak about gender inequalities and dare mention that women have advantages inherit . tough luck.

 

[thankyouforthis]

I am embracing inceldom fully, not the hateful kind or say mean stuff or be sexist but im going to just forget about women or relationships.

im just tired of worrying if im good enough, tired of being a dancing clown just to get acknowledged by women , tired of trying to live up to an ideal.

women also have privledeges in society and the courts.

there are things that favor women and women can do that men cant such as

• domestic violence (resources are only available for abused women)
• sexual assault/rape (existing definitions do not apply to men and again resources are only available for female victims)
• parental leave (women are eligible for longer periods?)
• prison sentences
• Non-payment of child support
• men are three times the victim of suicide.

Women are instantly favored and always seen as innocent and the victim ( Amber Heard Johnny Depp case went a long way to bring this to attention)

Women are always given compliments and gassed up, men barely ever.A man remembers a compliment from years ago thats how rare it is. Leading to women having more confidence.

Women are treated specially " oh shes a woman dont say that to her" "oh shes a woman dont fight back"

Also if i by some miracle I get a relationship and we fight id end up the bad one always , id have to pay support or funding even if we were just living together without marriage she can claim she was dependent on me.

Many women have ruined the lives of men just by false accusations and their word.

Like i said i wont wish an ill will towards women or anything like that.

im going to simply be a bachelor , ignore women, focus on hobbies , friends, work and learning and enjoy life until i die.

for me after thinking about things , its a zero sum game as a man to get involved with a woman these days.

As long as you don't mow down a bunch of women in your car or shoot them, I don't see the harm in this.
I will say that my brother said this ages ago but is now dating a woman. He still lives alone and does whatever he wants, but he's been seeing her for a while now and he seems happy.
I think "giving up" and not trying as hard actually helps people of any gender find partners-- not always, but sometimes. Sometimes we're actually more appealing when we are "ourselves," aka not trying to impress or be funny or witty, just existing.
So you may be surprised to find yourself changing course in the long run, but if this makes you happy in the short term, why not?
Life doesn't have to be about romance.

Are there incels who don't blame women for their misfortunes in misogynistic ways?

I think there are some who blame society at large for unrealistic beauty standards that they don't meet. This includes "incel women," which I'm not even sure if there's a word for that but I do know some women who have given up on dating because they're tired of "having" to go on diets, shave their whole bodies, spend an hour on makeup every morning, etc.