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uniqueusername987

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Sep 9, 2023
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People who have always been level headed when I trusted them in the past with my feelings but now they're worried about my depression even though I haven't told them I'm planning on ctb'ing yet.

One of them is threatening to bring in my parents. I AM A WHOLE ASS ADULT.

I feel like it's unbearable to stay quiet but I have to if I want to go through with this. Just another reason to ctb asap.
 
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snowcloud9

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Sep 9, 2023
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You're not dumb for expecting people to be supportive while respecting your independence, other people are dumb for responding in the worst way possible. Sorry to hear that your friends are not reacting calmly. If you need to vent about ctb vent here tbh, the anonymity of the internet is a joyous thing. Best of luck in cbting successfully before someone tries to stop you.
 
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One of them is threatening to bring in my parents. I AM A WHOLE ASS ADULT.
this really grabbed my attention to the post rather than everything else as how tf do they think that thats gonna work?

"im going to call your mommy and daddy" is getting out of control these days lol

you ever know those moments where something is serious but somebody says something so stupid that it grounds you back and your just confused about what you are just heard? yeah this is one of those

if you dont mind can we have more context behind that?
 
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this really grabbed my attention to the post rather than everything else as how tf do they think that thats gonna work?

"im going to call your mommy and daddy" is getting out of control these days lol

you ever know those moments where something is serious but somebody says something so stupid that it grounds you back and your just confused about what you are just heard? yeah this is one of those

if you dont mind can we have more context behind that?
Honestly I'm almost as confused. My parents aren't mental health professionals. In fact I've repeatedly told everyone they make things worse. When they worry about me they (mainly my mom) helicopter like mad and it's infuriating. Nothing helpful, just criticizing and overanalyzing my every move: why are you laying in bed? why are you staying home this weekend? why are you working so much? why aren't you working at all anymore? Every fucking little thing.

My dad is in town and one of my friends begged me to tell him how I felt so, idk, he could "help." They suggested having him help me take my meds regularly (I stopped a couple weeks ago, I'd rather feel depression than numbness). My dad is clueless on this sort of thing but he tells my mom everything and she's the one who will make my life hell.

Unfortunately some of my friends have my parents' numbers for various reasons (coordinating during past hospitalizations mainly plus another weird but irrelevant situation I don't know how to describe succinctly) so they could tattle on me at any moment and then it would be significantly harder to ctb.

Eta honestly I think it's a cop out. They've realized I'm beyond hope for them so they don't want to be responsible. 🤷‍♀️
 
Lulzacruel

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so they could tattle on me at any moment and then it would be significantly harder to ctb.
If you are at risk of being involuntarily hospitalized then if you are willing to put your friend under the bus, just claim that they are lying about it and that you have 100% recovered. If your friend has no logs then you give yourself much more freedom.

Realize that they need proof of immediate danger to hospitalize you. If there is no immediate or future danger, they must (theoretically at least) let you go.

I hope you can talk it out before it gets to that point though.
 
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uniqueusername987

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If you are at risk of being involuntarily hospitalized then if you are willing to put your friend under the bus, just claim that they are lying about it and that you have 100% recovered. If your friend has no logs then you give yourself much more freedom.

Realize that they need proof of immediate danger to hospitalize you. If there is no immediate or future danger, they must (theoretically at least) let you go.

I hope you can talk it out before it gets to that point though.
Good point. Yeah luckily my parents are pretty oblivious. One of my other friends (I have shit friends) texted my mom one night a couple weeks ago after I called her (the friend) for the first time in a while. Didn't bother to call me back, just went straight to my mom, based on one missed call and me deactivating my Facebook she said she was concerned. But my mom called me and totally bought that I was fine. it helped that when she asked what I was doing I said "scrolling through Facebook" which was true as I'd just reactivated it out of boredom 😂 No clue what she was calling about, just got lucky.

biggest fear though is that two separate friends (sorry "friends") reporting me might be extra sus.
 
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biggest fear though is that two separate friends (sorry "friends") reporting me might be extra sus.
It's the evidence the psychs look at not the amount of people reporting evidence

they need proof of suicidal ideation or homicidal tendencies to involuntarily get you in

a simple statement about depression is NOT enough

many depressed people arent even eligible to be in the ward because most of it is irritability and emotionlessness and outbursts of crying over things that appear silly to others

none of those traits by themselves are dangerous
 
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It's the evidence the psychs look at not the amount of people reporting evidence

they need proof of suicidal ideation or homicidal tendencies to involuntarily get you in

a simple statement about depression is NOT enough

many depressed people arent even eligible to be in the ward because most of it is irritability and emotionlessness and outbursts of crying over things that appear silly to others

none of those traits by themselves are dangerous
Tbh I'm less worried about involuntary as I am about parents deciding they need to keep watching me. I might be able to sneak it while they're around (or convince them not to come at all?) but it'd just be much less pleasant. I'd have to jump during day time probably while I'm at "work". 🤢
 
dvzaazai

dvzaazai

ambivalence is miserable but necessary
Sep 8, 2023
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I can sympathize. As soon as I told anyone as was suicidal or that I almost CTBd, it was straight to the parents then off to the psych ward. People seriously think that they know what's best for you better than you do. It's just cruel, honestly. I'm sorry that happened to you, and I hope you find peace.
 
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You don't have to worry at all. Besides your parents, nobody really cares about whether you live or die, and even with them around, they might not be able to stop you. Some irresponsible parents don't care either.

I've told others twice that I had thoughts of CTBing. The first time, I told my GP, and she just gave me a lifeline number and scheduled an appointment with a mental health agency. However, that mental health agency never showed up, and they only sent me a letter claiming they had tried to call me, even though I didn't receive any calls during that time. They were just lying. Moreover, that agency said I had to reach out to them first; otherwise, they wouldn't consider it a mental health issue. It seemed like they didn't care, even though they knew I had tried to CTB multiple times. Actually, I didn't need these people to care; I just found them to be dishonest and hypocritical.

The second time I told someone was an accident, and I did encounter some people who cared, but they were helpless. One day, I was browsing Facebook and saw an ad for a depression test. Since I had never been officially diagnosed by a doctor, I thought, why not take the test? After filling out some forms, I started the test. Unexpectedly, not long after the test, a mental health agency tried to contact me. They asked for my phone number and address, and after several email exchanges, I eventually gave them my phone number. That was a decision I deeply regret! They called me, we had a chat. I have a very bad habit of telling others the truth, so I even told them my detailed plans. They insisted on meeting me, but I didn't agree. Naively, I thought that as long as I didn't give them my address, they wouldn't find me. However, an hour later, the police found my home. I was taken to the police station and stayed there for about two hours waiting for an ambulance. Then, I spent about four hours in the ambulance before getting to the hospital. Afterward, I was placed in a ward with security guards for 24 hours. Then, I saw a doctor, I told him what happened and my plans. After hearing me out, he gave me two options. The first was to go home and do whatever I wanted. The second was to stay in the hospital for one or two more days and possibly arrange me a more specialized mental health doctor. He also told me it was entirely my decision. In the end, I chose to go home. Then, I tried to CTB again at home, but the method wasn't suitable for me, so it didn't work. Currently, I'm trying other methods.

Only three people made me feel like they genuinely cared. The first was the person who called the police for me. Although I couldn't accept her actions, she did genuinely do something. The other two were the nurses in the ambulance. As for the rest, they simply don't care whether you live or die, despite their pretty words. It's just their job, and they don't even care if they do it well. Remember, while there are many good people in the world, there are even more bad ones.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
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I certainly don't believe that other people can be trusted and relied on, it's sad how we exist in a society where suicidal people are punished by being cruelly locked in a psych ward and treat badly simply for wanting to die.
 

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