If you're not at least one of those things: rich,beautiful, talented,smart. You are fucked.

[throwaway123]

You don't even need it all, just one of those things. Genetics do matter and so does the environment. People like us here are depressed not because of some fucking chemical imbalance but because they really are suffering in a way that can be measured and seen. Everytime I see people who have got something they can make out of but they don't fucking do it. If I was them I'd do everything with the things I was given but instead they just go trough life with the maximum amount of comfort. I go to my limits every day to survive but not even that is enough and every day I ask myself why this was imposed on me? Why couldn't I just at least have had one of those things. You'd think if life wasn't fair you'd at least be given the option to make it fair but no some people are just born fucked.

 

[Secrets1]

You don't even need it all, just one of those things. Genetics do matter and so does the environment. People like us here are depressed not because of some fucking chemical imbalance but because they really are suffering in a way that can be measured and seen. Everytime I see people who have got something they can make out of but they don't fucking do it. If I was them I'd do everything with the things I was given but instead they just go trough life with the maximum amount of comfort. I go to my limits every day to survive but not even that is enough and every day I ask myself why this was imposed on me? Why couldn't I just at least have had one of those things. You'd think if life wasn't fair you'd at least be given the option to make it fair but no some people are just born fucked.

you can become rich or talented on your own with determination. I think you'd find having some of the things you mentioned doesn't necessarily solve problems. But it's easy to look at others from the outside and imagine the rest of their lives are smooth without knowing what's up in their mind.

 

[Meditation guide]

u don't even need it all, just one of those things.

I had three out of four of those things but still life was horrible. Even if you are beautiful smart and talented, you need a supportive environment. My life would have been wonderful if, in my 20s, I had a stable home. Instead I was struggling.

 

[Ghost2211]

Charisma is a good one too.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

@throwaway123, define fucked.

 

[Lupgevif]

Very debatable.

 

[Aurora.]

I wouldn't say you're completely fucked w/o them but they definitely make life easier.

 

[ScaredToLive]

I don't want this to sound in any way arrogant or anything I certainly hate myself, but I'm considered good looking and let me tell you I'm a mess I hate every day of my life

 

[rt1989526]

I don't think any of those things could help me , I'm just a broken human on the inside.

 

[Nymph]

I think determination is one of the most important things. You don't have to be talented or smart from the start but if you're determined you can get better. I have none of those. Determination or will is my weakest part

 

[Worthless_nobody]

I can attest to the fact that simply being good looking and smart does not equate to a great happy life. For me I have horrible self esteem and hate the way I look but I'm apparently considered attractive/beautiful. All it got me was used abused and suicidal while I saw people I went to school with and my cousins who society would consider not conventionally attractive...they got loving partners in their lives and amazing support. I started going well out of my way to Not look "beautiful" because I was sick of the bad attention. I was also smart but it meant nothing because of my circumstances.

In essence none of those things guarantee a great life they can just make life easier.

 

[ScaredToLive]

I think that it doesn't really help if your problems are internal. I literally hate myself. Of course I feel lucky in terms of genetics but I can't stand myself and also if you base your whole self esteem on looks, which I did, getting older can destroy you. It's built on sand

 

[Wayfaerer]

I think those things matter a lot but they're not a guarantee that you'll live a smooth life. I've received compliments on my appearance more than just a couple occasions and I still lived as a neurotic hermit. I didn't even lose my virginity until I was 27 and that was to an escort because I wanted to get it out of the way before I ended it all. I think it's more comforting to know that you were doomed from the very start than to think "what could have been?" That question haunts me everyday with a vengeance.
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[Meditation guide]

if you base your whole self esteem on looks, which I did, getting older can destroy you.

I was puzzled when I got older and people stopped starring at me and then I realized how relieved I was. Now I'm invisible to people because I'm no longer young and attractive and that's ok with me. Being good looking just made me a target of creeps.

 

[foxdie]

The real reason we're fucked is even with all of those traits you can still be immensely miserable. The grass always seems greener on the other side. It never is. I'd die (no pun intended) to have Anthony Bourdain's life, but he didn't want it. You can't really know the lived experience of others, even if they seem perfect.

 

[kcn2020]

Not necessarily beautiful, although I never had problems with my look. Definitely not talented. Smart, for sure I am but what's the point if anxiety dominates my life more than rationality, even though I might have the IQ to be considered a smart person.

 

[Good4Nothing]

Sometimes even if you're talented you're fucked.

 

[Moonbounce]

Grew in a household that experienced divorce early on. Left me in a more broken one that had little money was always relying on government benefits and the obvious struggles of one parent-two child households. Always low income housing, apartment buildings, often times with noisy inconsiderate neighbors that kept us up too late or wake us too early. Growing up I never thought much about developing any kind of skills because life outside the house was always hard and scary and I usually just couldn't wait to return to my bedroom and turn on my Gamecube or something. It wasn't until high school I eventually worked toward anything remotely useful but everything fizzled out. I lack drive and I struggle to determine why. Because of all this feel leagues behind the rest and completely hopeless.

So yes I agree.

 

[FrankieVallie]

You don't even need it all, just one of those things. Genetics do matter and so does the environment. People like us here are depressed not because of some fucking chemical imbalance but because they really are suffering in a way that can be measured and seen. Everytime I see people who have got something they can make out of but they don't fucking do it. If I was them I'd do everything with the things I was given but instead they just go trough life with the maximum amount of comfort. I go to my limits every day to survive but not even that is enough and every day I ask myself why this was imposed on me? Why couldn't I just at least have had one of those things. You'd think if life wasn't fair you'd at least be given the option to make it fair but no some people are just born fucked.

Not to brag or be arrogant, but I have an IQ of 138, which is the 99.435th percentile. Basically, I'm smarter than 99.435% percent of people. My family has plenty of money and I'm extremely talented in biology, chemistry, and many other things. I've even won awards at national conventions for my research. I live a horrible live and am still suicidal.

Circumstances in your life determine your happiness, not what you're born with.

 

[kcn2020]

Not to brag or be arrogant, but I have an IQ of 138, which is the 99.435th percentile. Basically, I'm smarter than 99.435% percent of people. My family has plenty of money and I'm extremely talented in biology, chemistry, and many other things. I've even won awards at national conventions for my research. I live a horrible live and am still suicidal.

Circumstances in your life determine your happiness, not what you're born with.

Lot of "gifted" people end up being miserable. There is no correlation between success and IQ, although some high IQ individuals tend to have more success since they will reach higher level of studies and excel in skilled work. But that doesn't mean that all high IQ individuals will be that successful. Some homeless people have superior level of IQ but they don't adapt well to society.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

you can become rich or talented on your own with determination. I think you'd find having some of the things you mentioned doesn't necessarily solve problems. But it's easy to look at others from the outside and imagine the rest of their lives are smooth without knowing what's up in their mind.

You cannot become talented on your own. You can practice a skill and get better at it, but if you do not have talent for it, your progress will be much slower. Let's take singing. Some people just cannot sing, no matter how much they try and how determined they are.

 

[VIBRITANNIA]

you're fucked as soon as you're born into society. if it's not looks, grades, talents, or wealth, it's people abusing you left and right. if it's not abuse, then it's boredom with life. the cycle makes sure to fuck you over any way it can.

 

[woxihuanni]

Not to brag or be arrogant, but I have an IQ of 138, which is the 99.435th percentile. Basically, I'm smarter than 99.435% percent of people. My family has plenty of money and I'm extremely talented in biology, chemistry, and many other things. I've even won awards at national conventions for my research. I live a horrible live and am still suicidal.

Circumstances in your life determine your happiness, not what you're born with.

Precisely.

I had three out of four of those things but still life was horrible. Even if you are beautiful smart and talented, you need a supportive environment. My life would have been wonderful if, in my 20s, I had a stable home. Instead I was struggling.

"a stable home"

The simple recipe that would've kept millions alive, including me.

 

[waterbottleman]

What about charisma and generally good social skills (I.E not just good at talking but also good at reading other people and responding correctly)?

Having good social skills and ability to influence others in and of itself is an enormously large asset and positive trait in life.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Being blessed certainly doesn't automatically make you happy and neither does being raised in a good environment.
Many inherited blessings come with a corresponding curse and many talented people suffer horribly inside.
What good genetics and a good environment do give you is a good foundation on which to stand.
A very valuable quality to have is determination and resilience. Many people who have been cursed learn to wrestle something positive out of it via stubbornness. Of course, it helps of they are in a loving environment and have support.
There are many interlinked aspects to success which interact differently in each individual.

 

[Fedrea]

You don't even need it all, just one of those things. Genetics do matter and so does the environment. People like us here are depressed not because of some fucking chemical imbalance but because they really are suffering in a way that can be measured and seen. Everytime I see people who have got something they can make out of but they don't fucking do it. If I was them I'd do everything with the things I was given but instead they just go trough life with the maximum amount of comfort. I go to my limits every day to survive but not even that is enough and every day I ask myself why this was imposed on me? Why couldn't I just at least have had one of those things. You'd think if life wasn't fair you'd at least be given the option to make it fair but no some people are just born fucked.

Looks, money and brains might be helpful in life, on average, but they are not magic talisman against misfortune and self hatred. The most important thing is to be happy in yourself and have inner peace. There are plenty of rich or good-looking people who suffer mentally enormously

 

[Mud.]

I'm a couple of those things I guess, but they're worthless assets.
Health is the highest currency and I'm completely broke.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I would think that having one or even all of these traits isn't enough to have a good life but I can see how having none of them would also easily lead to "being fucked", as you put it. Still, I think each trait has its own reasons for not necessarily leading to a good life:

Rich: People who are rich actually sometimes end up having more time to dwell on their own problems which can put them more often in a negative state of mind. Even spoiled children are actually more likely to become depressed if anything goes slightly wrong because sometimes suffering feels even worse when you aren't used to it. Money can't buy happiness after all. Plus there's actually a bunch of studies that show that people feel more depressed in developed countries than third world ones. Sure they can afford things that they want but the thing about dopamine is that it always leads to diminishing returns. Imagine having all of the resources and means to be happy while never being able to feel it anymore.

Beautiful: No matter how beautiful or attractive you are, someone can still find ways to degrade your appearance. Similarly to the rich factor this just leaves you less prepared for any negativity that occurs later in your life. Someone who is told they are beautiful all their lives probably has a far more fragile ego than just someone has always been ugly and knows it. People could also act really fake around you to win your favor which could leave someone with an even further scarred mentality. While the things they might get sad over seem trivial compared to what ugly people have to go through, at least ugly people don't ever have to worry about people only praising them for their looks instead of their actual character.

Talent: This one can be a double-edged sword since sure you can pay the bills with talent and maybe even attract peoples' adoration for your genuine skills but among the most talented people there's always that thought that somebody out there is better than you no matter what you do and it's actually very possible to never think you're good enough no matter how much better you are than the people around you. Sure there can be competitions to prove your worth but even first place winners can still end up feeling like their victories were hollow if they rationalize things a certain way.

Smart: This is an easy one. Smart people actually get depressed super easily. Ignorance is bliss after all. It's just much easier to become aware of just how miserable one's own existence can be if you're smart. Having higher brain power gives you the ability to see just how things went wrong plus you'll probably be surrounded by people you can't truly connect with because they're 'dumber than you'. Being smart is pretty lonely because even around other "smart people" they don't always get along because if smartness is all they have, other smart people become perceived as a threat.

Basically, life sometimes just doesn't care if you're any of those things. It can still find ways to fuck you over that have nothing to do with those traits. Sure it's easy to say those peoples' lives are better because they have things that you don't but "blah blah blah grass being greener on the other side etc." I don't mean to degrade anyone for feeling upset that they don't seem to have these traits though, since I don't either. I've just seen enough examples for people with varying degrees of all of these qualities still get depressed or fucked over by life due to things completely beyond their control.