If you were given the option between heaven and eternal nonexistence, which one would would you choose?

[iwanttodie019]

1)Heaven
(only pleasure and no suffering(not even boredom))

2)Nonexistence

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Heaven for sure

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

1)Heaven
(only pleasure and no suffering(not even boredom))

2)Nonexistence

2) non-existence forever is what i want for me asap. eternal non-existence is the only guarantee of never suffering so badly it's a trillion times worse than you can imagine. permanent non-existence the only guarantee of never suffering, never any pain problems nor bad memories. non-existence forever is the only perfection.

1 micro-second after my brain dies i will cease to exist forever . that's better than any imaginary heaven where someone would recall many of the horrible things that happened to them in this evil world. but there is no heaven only hell and that's this world and life.

for me there are some horrible things like unending constant unbearable pain the worst pain that taint everything else and make everything else meaningless in this evil life and evil world . to me the supposedly pleasurable addictions can't be separated from the worst pain the most horrible things the most terrible evil of this world and of DNA based life and the universe too because it gave rise to DNA based life which has to torture sentient beings to get them to pass on their genes fighting everyday against the law of Entropy. luckily the universe will die in heat Death and it will be nothingness forever as the universe keeps expanding and has always expanded.

i would never want to exist under any circumstances. for one thing i'd feel i'm agreeing with evil that i'm condoning evil that has been done to me "u huh let me enjoy this stupid sandwich " like a good little slave while i wait for the worst torture . as if eating a sandwich were worth even 10 seconds of the worst pain ( it's not) much less years of it.

i'm glad i will eventually die and be non-existent forever . but i do need my suicide asap to skip over any torture that could happen while i'm still alive in this hell.

the universe will continue to expand forever . the expansion is accelerating . the next nearest solar system to the one Earth is in 25 trillion miles away.

Future of an expanding universe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[bankai]

How would anyone not choose option one? If heaven was just a bunch of guys in white clothes sitting around in the clouds I'll take non existence.

But you said only pleasure, no suffering. And no boredom. Sign me up. Eternity of Utter enjoyment here I come.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

Heaven but only if there isn't some sort of "You get to be in a perfect world but we need people elsewhere to suffer for your pleasure" kinda thing. Because if that's the case we already have heaven on earth: It's called being a billionaire.

 

[Dante_]

2

 

[Dejected 55]

I don't want a perfect heaven. It would only remind me of how horrible this life was and why did I have to endure this misery to get into heaven? I would rather have nonexistence. I just want out.

 

[hedezev4]

I feel like Option One is just clickbait.
Like, 'Come to us — no suffering, only joy.'
But suffering and pleasure are a spectrum.
Let's imagine it as a gradient — on the left, red (suffering), slowly shifting to green on the right (happiness).
In this case, let's say heaven is just the right half of the spectrum.
So we remove things like disease, misfortune, etc.

But boredom doesn't go away. Boredom is sameness(monotony) — when the color doesn't change for a long time and just stays in one place. Boredom is when there are no roller coasters, when the ride is flat and smooth.

So boredom would definitely exist. Eternal boredom — that might be even worse than what we have now.
At least in this life, we can leave. We have a choice — to keep being bored or not.
Non-existence has absolutely no downsides, because even the negatives can't exist there.
So I would 100% choose non-existence — even if I were promised everything I want (excluding the possibility of non-existence).
I might consider that choice only if I knew that by choosing heaven, I could still, at any moment, painlessly and freely, just snap my fingers and enter non-existence.

 

[wham311]

Non-existence, id duck heaven up somehow

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

I feel like Option One is just clickbait.
Like, 'Come to us — no suffering, only joy.'
But suffering and pleasure are a spectrum.
Let's imagine it as a gradient — on the left, red (suffering), slowly shifting to green on the right (happiness).
In this case, let's say heaven is just the right half of the spectrum.
So we remove things like disease, misfortune, etc.

But boredom doesn't go away. Boredom is sameness(monotony) — when the color doesn't change for a long time and just stays in one place. Boredom is when there are no roller coasters, when the ride is flat and smooth.

So boredom would definitely exist. Eternal boredom — that might be even worse than what we have now.
At least in this life, we can leave. We have a choice — to keep being bored or not.
Non-existence has absolutely no downsides, because even the negatives can't exist there.
So I would 100% choose non-existence — even if I were promised everything I want (excluding the possibility of non-existence).
I might consider that choice only if I knew that by choosing heaven, I could still, at any moment, painlessly and freely, just snap my fingers and enter non-existence.

It's okay, you can just kill yourself on heaven to get non existence then, if you want. Nobody here is talking about dying to go to heaven.

 

[flightless bird]

i used to play it inside my mind.

two doors stand before me, one opens to heaven, the other to a miniature black hole that would undo me into eternal nothingness. and i only get to choose once. something always clicks within my consciousness, and in a microsecond, my final decision is always the black hole.

 

[bl33ding_heart]

I would only chose heaven if it meant I could be with the person I love most for eternity. If not, I'd take eternal nothingness any day.

 

[cemeteryismyhome]

I'm a Catholic convert, so I'm supposed to say, "Heaven". But I don't think I would really fit anywhere. I foresee myself as way out on the farthest reaches of the edge of Heaven, not noticed and not really a part of it. Or somehow forgotten, God understanding the way I am, and I'm left outside, allowed to look in through a small window while I sit outside in darkness. Not damned, not in Hell, but just, kind of in a quiet little hidden corner of Heaven. But... I choose eternal nonexistence. I simply want, not to be.

 

[Tired_birth_1967]

These questions will always have answers based on each person's experiences. They don't have much validity, but if a paradise existed, I wouldn't want to experience it. Not existing will always be my choice. I don't want to be happy forever or sad forever. Neither option makes sense to me, even in an imaginary world.

 

[niceday]

Nonexistence!
I'm too disappointed in everything. Sorry.

 

[enough of this]

There's really no choice. By definition, there IS no non-existence. That would be to say, non-existence doesn't exist, which is true. There's only life and more life. When your body dies, which is the ONLY thing that dies, you wake up into your true reality. It's waking up from a dream of this physical, time/space reality into pure, positive energy, which, underneath all of the negative stuff you've picked up on Earth, is what you are. There won't even be a lapse in consciousness. You go from conscious to SUPER consciousness, as though you've never been conscious before.

I'm looking forward to making my transition, whenever that might be.

 

[skybox]

Heaven.

 

[hedezev4]

English is not my native language, so maybe the issue is in my misunderstanding of words.
You are answering in the second sentence as if I suggested ctb in order to get to heaven?
I didn't say that in my text.
I only said that I could only start to consider heaven if it was possible to do ctb there in an extremely simple way.
And I'm saying that I choose non-existence, because usually heaven is perceived as something eternal — eternal existence.
If I can still have fun for 25–50–100 years, and then, when I get bored, just snap my fingers and stop existing — then okay, maybe I will choose heaven.

It's okay, you can just kill yourself on heaven to get non existence then, if you want. Nobody here is talking about dying to go to heaven

 

[Namelesa]

Non-existence mostly cus my form of heaven would be that. Anything I do will would get tiring for me at some point so I would rather not do or feel anything. I just want rest and escape from everything.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

non-existence doesn't exist

how can non-existence not exist if non-existence doesn't exist. Isn't that a paradox? If non-existance doesn't exist, then non-existance must exist.
my brain hurts now...

English is not my native language, so maybe the issue is in my misunderstanding of words.
You are answering in the second sentence as if I suggested ctb in order to get to heaven?
I didn't say that in my text.
I only said that I could only start to consider heaven if it was possible to do ctb there in an extremely simple way.
And I'm saying that I choose non-existence, because usually heaven is perceived as something eternal — eternal existence.
If I can still have fun for 25–50–100 years, and then, when I get bored, just snap my fingers and stop existing — then okay, maybe I will choose heaven.

Well the thing is, OP never really said you needed to die to go to either place, or that you needed to stay there forever. They just gave us a choice, an immediate one. What you do after that is entirely up to you, including CTBing. I imagine heaven would let you do something like that if it's what you wish for you to feel better.

 

[MoonShadow]

Please, please non-existence. I never consented to being brought into existence in the first place.

 

[myriapoda]

i guess it would depend, i doubt everyone and everything i love could be brought to Heaven with me. even though some of the sermons i read that Heaven is sort of guaranteed, it doesn't feel right because i am not Righteous. i will enjoy that type of carefree afterlife, because i'm lazy and indulgent. and i don't want to be the same lackluster person i am now, just somewhere nicer where i know i won't belong.

so one non-existent existence please!

 

[ASilentHope]

I've expressed this else where. I'm reading some of the responses, and I've agreed with a lot. In the irony of why many of are here. What's one without the other? You can't truly understand and appreciate joy without experiencing pain. An eternal existence of subjectively defined joy just sounds dull.

At the same time the existence of a true after life... of a heaven really scares me. I don't like the idea that everything that I've been through, or everyone here has been through was nothing more than test.

 

[usernamesarehard]

Am I allowed to go to heaven and if I don't like it escape to eternal nothingness?

If yes then heaven. If no eternal nothingness.

Part of me is kind of terrified of the idea of eternal nothingness, so the idea that there is a place where your consciousness goes sounds nice.

But the idea of going to heaven sounds miserable right now. I'm worried I may never find another partner. I know you'd see your family and all, but it's not the same. I think even if I couldn't feel it emotionally, logically I'd feel that I was missing something.

Idk, the idea that you could go to a place where you feel nothing but happiness just sounds too unbelievable. I feel like I'd get tired of it eventually. I'd rather not be able to be discontent than be 'happy' for all of eternity.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

Am I allowed to go to heaven and if I don't like it escape to eternal nothingness?

If yes then heaven. If no eternal nothingness.

Part of me is kind of terrified of the idea of eternal nothingness, so the idea that there is a place where your consciousness goes sounds nice.

But the idea of going to heaven sounds miserable right now. I'm worried I may never find another partner. I know you'd see your family and all, but it's not the same. I think even if I couldn't feel it emotionally, logically I'd feel that I was missing something.

Idk, the idea that you could go to a place where you feel nothing but happiness just sounds too unbelievable. I feel like I'd get tired of it eventually. I'd rather not be able to be discontent than be 'happy' for all of eternity.

I mean, as OP defined, heaven is devoid of suffering, so in my view, if you start suffering there because of any reason you get kicked out to non-existance cause suffering is not allowed there. heaven is a win-win either way if that's the case.

 

[FuneralCry]

Non-existence is all I hope for and is all I could ever wish for, I just want to never suffer in this torturous, cruel existence ever again and I'll always see existence as an abomination that just causes harm and suffering, I really would just never wish for any of this and I wish I never suffered more than anything.

For me non-existence is just all that's positive as after all only in non-existence will I be unable to suffer and I'll just always see existing as only suffering with no limit as to how torturous and unbearable to exist, it's all so terrible to me and as long as I exist I'll only wish to never exist again, non-existence is the only peace for me in this existence I always saw as a mistake, I just don't wish to exist and I never would do, I always see it as a burden to exist.

 

[endlessmelancholy]

What kind of heaven. On which religion is the heaven based on. I don't want to spend an eternity praying and worshipping the creator

 

[ThatRussianDude]

How would anyone not choose option one? If heaven was just a bunch of guys in white clothes sitting around in the clouds I'll take non existence.

But you said only pleasure, no suffering. And no boredom. Sign me up. Eternity of Utter enjoyment here I come.

And dont forget about a 100 virgins

 

[NutORat]

If I ended up in heaven (the likelihood of which is close to 0), I think I'd feel guilty for 2 reasons:
1) Being up here in the pleasure land, knowing that people down on Earth suffer and will continue to suffer and bring suffering upon their offsprings.
2) Participating in a system created by a god that allows such suffering to occur, while being called benevolent. Eat my d-

So despite how good it might be to chill forever in paradise, I don't think it would be 100% devoid of negativity, just because of what it represents. But you know what is 100% devoid of negativity? Nonexistence.

 

[Blanc]

I'll choose non-existence without a blink.