If you didn't have the problems that you have, would you ctb anyway?

[StateOfMind]

Since my life went to shit I had allot of time to think and came to the conclusion that I would probably have ctb'd anyway, even without the problems I face every day.

"Existential nihilism is the philosophical theory that life has no intrinsic meaning or value. With respect to the universe, existential nihilism suggests that a single human or even the entire human species is insignificant, without purpose and unlikely to change in the totality of existence. According to the theory, each individual is an isolated being born into the universe, barred from knowing 'why'."

Existential nihilism - Wikipedia

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[saltshaker]

Still likely to get super old, so yes.

 

[MYStERY_Man]

If my wish to die is a problem and I didn't have it, then, by definition, I wouldn't CTB, right?

Also:

 

[DunnoWhyButYeah]

Hmm I don't know, probably at some point still...

If I don't have my problems, does that mean I have everything what I don't have now and what I want?

If I don't have any health problems, I can be with someone who feels right and I can be happy; then I don't ctb until I'm too old and tired.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

If I had unlimited money and power I would basically do what I do now (ruthless postmaxxing and cooming with bent pp) until one of my robots finish making the diamond-coated sarco. I have literally no drive to do normie stuff.

 

[StateOfMind]

If I don't have my problems, does that mean I have everything what I don't have now and what I want?

If I don't have any health problems, I can be with someone who feels right and I can be happy; then I don't ctb until I'm too old and tired.

Good question.

If you get too old and tired you may no longer be able to ctb.

 

[BottomlessPit]

I'm with you. Existence is just utterly useless and always worse than nonexistence. Even if all my problems went away I would still be a slave to my needs and desires. Not to mention that living has inherent risks associated with it. Just be in the wrong place at the wrong time and you'll experience hell on earth.

 

[TooConscious]

I used to think like that but I think with me it was a defence because there is nothing to do with the anger at the parties that have wronged me so it's easier to blame myself and say "this world was never for me anyway" than it was to carry all the disgust towards their actions.

 

[WornOutLife]

Yeah.
No matter how slim or rich I become. No matter how many girls I date.
I've been suicidal since I was 12 and I will always be because this world and universe just make no sense to me. I want answers and I only get more questions.

Just let me get the hell out of this simulation or whatever and rest in peace.

 

[DunnoWhyButYeah]

Good question.

If you get too old and tired you may no longer be able to ctb.

True xD

 

[yive]

yes. life is suffering. suffering is unacceptable and unnecessary. in this case, only my life will get better, but what will happen to the lives of others?
i won't live in a world where people have no right to die!

 

[Superdeterminist]

If I looked how I wanted, had the positive mindset I wanted (permanently content and never becoming depressed or discouraged by any setback or insult), had the talents I wanted, was wealthy, never aged, never became otherwise diseased, and lived in a world without so much gratuitous suffering...I can't see why I'd want to die. Sadly, it's too much to ask, so I'd rather take my leave.

 

[motel rooms]

Unbearable pain is what drives people to ctb. Only fictional characters kill themselves for purely philosophical reasons. Of course I wouldn't want to die if I were healthy

 

[orlandom]

If you didn't have the problems that you have, would you ctb anyway?​

No

 

[Rolliewoo]

No I wouldn't tbh

 

[Bedrock48]

If we're talking up until now, the age I am currently, then no definitely not.

 

[Emilia1012]

If I didn't have the problems I have I would certainly be happy to live and won't Ctb . Unfortunately it's impossible

 

[NormaJeane]

As time goes on, problems will occur and then there will be a choice between meaningless suffering and suicide anyway. No matter how you twist and turn it, for most people in this world we live in now, suicide will be the most likely death.

 

[electrojellysoup]

Nah. There are things I do love about life, like my friends and art and being creative. My problems have just been preventing me from enjoying them. It's been so long since I felt free.

Life might be meaningless, but if it's pleasurable it's worth living, in my hedonistic nihilistic view. The mechanisms of joy have been cruel to me.

Unbearable pain is what drives people to ctb. Only fictional characters kill themselves for purely philosophical reasons. Of course I wouldn't want to die if I were healthy

Actually, Socrates's death could be seen as a suicide based on philosophical tenets. Socrates could have chosen to apologise+repent for offending the people in charge for his "challenging" views but he stuck to his guns knowing he would be executed.

 

[FuneralCry]

Probably but more unlikely. Even if my physical health problems were taken away and some other aspects were changed about my life, I just don't think my mind is suited for this world, I have always felt discontent towards life even when nothing much was wrong. I also hate the idea of growing old and watching myself basically decay away. I just see existence as pointless and I cannot imagine feeling anything else towards it.

 

[JustAMatterOfTime]

Doubt it, body works fine, if my mind did too I would just be like my friends from school, normal getting on with their lives. I would love that but know I can't have it. I'd take being a lobotomised 1950s housewife at this stage.

 

[noname223]

No. I think if I did not have extreme problems (i do have them) the SI would be way too strong.

 

[motel rooms]

Actually, Socrates's death could be seen as a suicide based on philosophical tenets. Socrates could have chosen to apologise+repent for offending the people in charge for his "challenging" views but he stuck to his guns knowing he would be executed.

If you ask me, Socrates was just the exception that proves the rule. Btw, I highly doubt he was really such a "superhero" - all we know about Socrates is what Plato chose to write about his beloved teacher

 

[Bat 17]

No. I was a fairly happy chap until about 2 years ago. Very lucky too

 

[ShutUpEli]

If I didn't have the problems I have I'd see the world as the lie people try to paint it as. Really our problems just open us to the reality of this world.

 

[it's_all_a_game]

Probably. I have some very real life problems right now, however today's society is completely effed. We need to rebuild from the ground up and change how a lot of stuff works. Like, really, we should have UBIs for everyone; enough of this work to survive BS. We need to preach kindness again. We need to have some sort of parental vetting system...

 

[Celerity]

It depends on how broadly you would define "problems", I guess. I need a full personality overhaul to the point where I would be almost a completely different person, which is its own kind of death.

Maybe if I could fall in love. Is being loveless and unlovable a problem? It certainly feels like it.

 

[Pen>Sword]

No. I will not CTB. If only I can reverse time and change the past for the better, I wouldn't be in almost-crippling depression. I would be living and cherishing every moments of my life, and I wouldn't be a burden to my parents and siblings. Instead, I could be a helper to family matters, rather than a pity, a disgrace in my family. I dug my own grave, and I blame no one but myself. I'm more useful dead than alive, TBH.

 

[demuic]

It depends on what problems would be solved. A lot of my problems are not specific to myself, but to the problems with society and others around me. If I was still myself, but without any mental or neurological conditions that deprive me of energy and focus, then I'd still want to to ctb. If I was still 'myself,' only I've undergone a personality change to be a 'normie' who's not affected by the horrors of this world, is that really still me anyway?

I don't like it here on earth. I can't brush away or accept the way things are I the world so I'll take myself out of it.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I don't think I would. I suppose I'm fairly close to recovery in the sense that if I were to get what I wanted then I truly would want to stay alive. Of course in the unlikely event that happens, I'll probably die anyway to some accident because if my shitty luck.