Discussion If you could get help for what ails you, would you still want to CTB?

[Hunter]

I am more on the pro life side I believe in death only if the prognosis for betterment is poor

Not to be rude but often the medical and mental health professionals are the ones who make such prognoses and we all know that they can be way off base in how they estimate whether improvement is likely or not likely. The fact that they accept kickbacks from pharma companies seriously undermines the validity of their judgments in this regard anyway. I do agree with you in the sense that one should ideally explore all their options for recovery before they decide life is no longer worth living but everyone has their own breaking point at the end of the day. People can be surprisingly reliable in judging whether things will improve with time or not.

 

[RyanSuicide]

Not to be rude but often the medical and mental health professionals are the ones who make such prognoses and we all know that they can be way off base in how they estimate whether improvement is likely or not likely. The fact that they accept kickbacks from pharma companies seriously undermines the validity of their judgments in this regard anyway.[/QUOT

Not to be rude but often the medical and mental health professionals are the ones who make such prognoses and we all know that they can be way off base in how they estimate whether improvement is likely or not likely. The fact that they accept kickbacks from pharma companies seriously undermines the validity of their judgments in this regard anyway. I do agree with you in the sense that one should ideally explore all their options for recovery before they decide life is no longer worth living but everyone has their own breaking point at the end of the day. People can be surprisingly reliable in judging whether things will improve with time or not.

Yes what I'm saying is it is up to YOU wether or not you have endured enough suffering. No one can make that decision for you

 

[Hunter]

I don't like to entertain hypotheticals for improvement because I know my health conditions are beyond repair at this point and I have no faith in doctors now. But if in some other dimension, help was readily available for my afflictions I'm still not sure I would opt to continue. I'm so traumatized by now I don't think I could ever trust in myself or others ever again. I really don't brink it's worth it to live in this fucked up world now.

 

[couragetodie]

I don't hate life but I have failed to live anywhere near how I want to live. So, sure, if we could wave a magic wand...then I wouldn't want to CTB. I am just at a point in my life where I disbelieve I can get help.

 

[CuriousAboutThis]

I am unsure on such a subject because even though I change my mind but I don't think I would CTB if something ail I relapsed already back to crack-cocaine and a hooker and letting in a homeless person crash at my apartment room which I am uncertain for how this will play out for me alcohol currently as of this comment I am staying away from so I am good off alcohol I might have to worry about the influences of others.

 

[CuriousAboutThis]

I don't like to entertain hypotheticals for improvement because I know my health conditions are beyond repair at this point and I have no faith in doctors now. But if in some other dimension, help was readily available for my afflictions I'm still not sure I would opt to continue. I'm so traumatized by now I don't think I could ever trust in myself or others ever again. I really don't brink it's worth it to live in this fucked up world now.

I agree I would prefer actuals, instead of hypotheticals. but as we are human we tend to think too much but we are all realists from time to time my situation differs from people in this site my choices lead to mistakes which lead to pending consequences.

 

[wanttodie]

I'd still hate my life and want to end it

 

[CuriousAboutThis]

I'd still hate my life and want to end it

Yeah, I think and know that we all have that feeling when you want to die sometimes you can't for whatever reasons or lack thereof.

 

[511115]

I can't think of anything that would motivate me to live.

That's always been my problem.

 

[OhRoseThouArtSick]

If I could connect with others more in a real way and not be so isolated I wouldn't feel so deeply depressed a lot of the time. I'm so sensitive I can't just conform and live like everyone else. And people see my vulnerabilities and they use me and take advantage of me. I almost died 10 years ago from opiates. My life is still a struggle. I do so much to be happy and healthy and I just keep getting shit on. I can't play the games everyone else plays. I cry so much all the time it seems endless.. My soul is exhausted with this planet.

 

[15dec]

If the help worked 100%, then I wouldn't ctb. Realistically though, it probably wouldn't work or stop working after a while and I'd end up back in the same situation as I am now and ctb anyway.

 

[9a91]

Seriously? No. But there are no second chances here. In this cruel society, It's easier to make another human that will actually work than to fix existing one. It will get me going and being stronger for a while but as Lifeisatrap wrote, it won't change their attitude towards me. I can change no problem.

 

[Sixfeetunder]

Yes. Even if I could cure what ails me, there are other factors that make me want to ctb.