If you could experience fully dying, then reanimate, do you think you'd be less afraid of CTB?

[Pain In The Ass]

I wonder if I could experience, for example, being stabbed to death, but then reanimate and analyse what happened and how it felt, I suspect I'd probably be surprised that it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, and I'd maybe be less afraid of it potentially happening in the future. Same with full-hang, drowning, or some form of successful OD.

If we got to fully experience it many times first, using different methods, all the way to stone-cold brain death, then be able to reanimate and discuss what happened with ourselves, maybe we'd be surprisingly much more OK with dying and death. Maybe it wouldn't be as bad as we thought it would.

(I know some people will say, 'Well, I full-hanged, then woke up in hospital, and now I'm more afraid' - Well, what I'm describing didn't happen to you then did it?! Cus you didn't die, and couldn't then process the successful death - if you're more afraid now, it's probably that you're more afraid now of going through all that shit again and still being alive!)

 

[Bedrock48]

I 100% think it would, a lot of my worry is fear of the unknown. I have a pretty fleshed out idea in my mind as to what death and the afterlife (or lack thereof) would be like but there's always that thought that maybe I'm wrong.

 

[motel rooms]

Well, what I'm describing didn't happen to you then did it?! Cus you didn't die, and couldn't then process the successful death - if you're more afraid now, it's probably that you're more afraid now of going through all that shit again and still being alive!)

Well, what you're describing isn't an experience of death either. You can't reanimate a person whose brain has died (death = brain death).

 

[Pain In The Ass]

Well, what you're describing isn't an experience of death either. You can't reanimate a person whose brain has died (death = brain death).

I invented a time machine, that has a built-in memory option, so you can remember what happened in the future that you lived before you came back - it's my fantasy!

 

[motel rooms]

I invented a time machine!

At least you don't think you're Jesus. Your thought processes are exquisitely convoluted. "If I killed myself & came back from the dead, I suspect I'd be pleasantly surprised that dying wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, so it would be easier for me to kill myself."

 

[Pain In The Ass]

At least you don't think you're Jesus. Your thought processes are exquisitely convoluted. "If I killed myself & came back from the dead, I suspect I'd be pleasantly surprised that dying wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, so it would be easier for me to kill myself."

Haha, well, my point is, IF you suspect that's probably the case, maybe there's no need to be so afraid in the first place!

 

[Doombox]

I wonder if I could experience, for example, being stabbed to death, but then reanimate and analyse what happened and how it felt, I suspect I'd probably be surprised that it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, and I'd maybe be less afraid of it potentially happening in the future. Same with full-hang, drowning, or some form of successful OD.

If we got to fully experience it many times first, using different methods, all the way to stone-cold brain death, then be able to reanimate and discuss what happened with ourselves, maybe we'd be surprisingly much more OK with dying and death. Maybe it wouldn't be as bad as we thought it would.

(I know some people will say, 'Well, I full-hanged, then woke up in hospital, and now I'm more afraid' - Well, what I'm describing didn't happen to you then did it?! Cus you didn't die, and couldn't then process the successful death - if you're more afraid now, it's probably that you're more afraid now of going through all that shit again and still being alive!)

I had a hypertensive crisis from meds once, and I'm dimly aware that at some point I was maybe screaming, and then I lost consciousness and came to in an ambulance. The experience made me less afraid of death because I think my situation looked a lot worse to observers than how I was actually experiencing it. Like, I have no memory of actually suffering. If I had died that day I don't think I would have said (if I could) that it was a terrible death, even though probably most people would say that they would rather not die that way. I don't know if consciousness is somehow altered during an experience like that, a sort of dissociation, or what. It's made me hopeful that even deaths that look terrible might not be as terrible for the one dying. But that may depend on the reason for the death.

 

[mandyjohnuk]

It's probably already happened to all of us at some point in time meaning when we die we are reanimated not to the same body but a new body free of past memories.

 

[motel rooms]

I had a hypertensive crisis from meds once, and I'm dimly aware that at some point I was maybe screaming, and then I lost consciousness and came to in an ambulance. The experience made me less afraid of death because I think my situation looked a lot worse to observers than how I was actually experiencing it. Like, I have no memory of actually suffering. If I had died that day I don't think I would have said (if I could) that it was a terrible death, even though probably most people would say that they would rather not die that way. I don't know if consciousness is somehow altered during an experience like that, a sort of dissociation, or what. It's made me hopeful that even deaths that look terrible might not be as terrible for the one dying. But that may depend on the reason for the death.

Yep, the state of shock is a powerful painkiller. Many soldiers who step on a landmine & lose their legs remain conscious, but feel no pain for quite a while. A member who is no longer active jumped from an insufficient height & broke many bones, but he said he didn't feel anything for hours.

 

[Red Scare]

It's not necessary. If you have ever been under anesthesia or been in a deep and dreamless sleep where your consciousness has been sufficiently suppressed, you have experienced what it is like to be dead.

 

[FallingGrace]

I have sort of experienced dying via strangulation, or at least the uncomfortable part where you fall unconscious (at which point you cease to experience anything). An abusive ex once choked me out. I just gave in, and it was surprisingly quick (around 15 seconds to loss of consciousness). Apparently after my partner released the pressure on my neck, it took a few seconds for me to take a breath in and come to. They were panicking, worried they'd nearly killed me, and I just felt calm and peaceful. I didn't remember at first what had even happened. I asked if I'd fallen asleep watching tv and if I'd had a bad dream and woken up with a shock. Maybe due to the lack of oxygen to the brain allowing me to form tangible logic during this moment? I don't really know.

I am personally considering the "night-night method" for this reason. It's also less of a shock for whoever finds me and I can lay myself down nicely in nice clothes, hair and makeup, not worry about that being messed up as much.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

Yep, the state of shock is a powerful painkiller. Many soldiers who step on a landmine & lose their legs remain conscious, but feel no pain for quite a while. A member who is no longer active jumped from an insufficient height & broke many bones, but he said he didn't feel anything for hours.

So in those few hours afterwards, had he slipped away and died of internal bleeding or something similar, I'm guessing his post-opinion of it (using my magical, memory-retaining time machine!), would be that it wasn't that bad or painful.

I have sort of experienced dying via strangulation, or at least the uncomfortable part where you fall unconscious (at which point you cease to experience anything). An abusive ex once choked me out. I just gave in, and it was surprisingly quick (around 15 seconds to loss of consciousness). Apparently after my partner released the pressure on my neck, it took a few seconds for me to take a breath in and come to. They were panicking, worried they'd nearly killed me, and I just felt calm and peaceful. I didn't remember at first what had even happened. I asked if I'd fallen asleep watching tv and if I'd had a bad dream and woken up with a shock. Maybe due to the lack of oxygen to the brain allowing me to form tangible logic during this moment? I don't really know.

I am personally considering the "night-night method" for this reason. It's also less of a shock for whoever finds me and I can lay myself down nicely in nice clothes, hair and makeup, not worry about that being messed up as much.

Sorry you went through that. I hope he has bone cancer. So that experience made you less afraid of that method, once you realized how surprisingly tolerable it actually was.

 

[.............]

I'd wanna try it. Fuck it, if it's just as peaceful as it feels, I'd CTB right after I was reanimated.

 

[Foresight]

I'm not actually scared of death, I'm scared of that feeling of life lost. I don't know how to say it. I'm scared of taking my own life and fading out with a deep sense of regret as I die. The death itself is not scary. That's why I like N, because the less time to regret and grieve before the fade out the better.

I've had a few near death or severely ill experiences. I felt peaceful during two (drowning/overdose). The last one I felt peaceful but all the little worries faded and everything that actually matters came to the forefront. I'm trying to extract that feeling and apply it to my living experience. My ultimate goal in life is to have that sense of fulfillment in my final moments and feeling that relief of being ready to cease.

I'll probably just get hit my a car or something though and bleed out in a panic lol.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

It's not necessary. If you have ever been under anesthesia or been in a deep and dreamless sleep where your consciousness has been sufficiently suppressed, you have experienced what it is like to be dead.

I have been under anaesthesia for a few hours, but I think I must have still had some perception of time, because I remember trying to fight the anaesthetic, and I remember waking up with a nurse sat by my bed, but the two events weren't immediately consecutive, as you might imagine if you had no perception of time - it seemed like there was a span of time between the two events - a blankness of time - surely, even if you were dead for 1 million years, but then were reanimated, it would feel like you died and then were reanimated instantaneuosly, I'd imagine anyway

I'm not actually scared of death, I'm scared of that feeling of life lost. I don't know how to say it. I'm scared of taking my own life and fading out with a deep sense of regret as I die. The death itself is not scary. That's why I like N, because the less time to regret and grieve before the fade out the better.

I've had a few near death or severely ill experiences. I felt peaceful during two (drowning/overdose). The last one I felt peaceful but all the little worries faded and everything that actually matters came to the forefront. I'm trying to extract that feeling and apply it to my living experience. My ultimate goal in life is to have that sense of fulfillment in my final moments and feeling that relief of being ready to cease.

I'll probably just get hit my a car or something though and bleed out in a panic lol.

I think I know what you mean. The most prominent emotion I felt when I first realized CTB had become the likely only option was a sense of devastation that I will die full of regret for not doing the few things I always wanted to do; things I assumed I would get to do, and things that would allow me to lie on my deathbed and be able to say, 'I did it... I can leave with that sense of fulfilment I was seeking' - the realization that it wasn't going to happen that way was the worst, most devastating feeling I've ever had. It really brought out the evil in me and made me very bitter. I've come to terms with it more now - bad shit has to happen to some of us, so why not me? Am I special? Do I deserve a better life than others? Did I do everything I could to ensure my life turned out well? No.

 

[unimaginativelamp]

I think it would. A few things worry me, one of which being that the last thing I'll feel is extreme agony.

 

[motel rooms]

So in those few hours afterwards, had he slipped away and died of internal bleeding or something similar, I'm guessing his post-opinion of it (using my magical, memory-retaining time machine!), would be that it wasn't that bad or painful.

Obviously. Unfortunately, most of us probably can't learn to enter a state of shock on command.