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evey8112

evey8112

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Jan 25, 2021
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I know a ton of people are not going to want to hear this but "We continue after the body/shell dies" We are all energy, I am not spitting out some new new age bullshit its the truth science and countless research has confirmed it. Too also top it off my house i lived in 2 years ago was what most people would say was "haunted" it had a spirit of a woman who used to live there my lights would come on and off doors open and close on there own any thing electronic would go off on its own and i would hear constant foot steps going up and down the stairs at night. I seen these things with my own 2 eyes! We are souls having a human experience. We are here to evolve our souls. If you still are questioning it just visit this website https://www.nderf.org/ and read the thousands of NDE experiences of people some that were brain dead and had the most amazing experience beyond words can describe. I am not trying to push my what i believe on others but the proof is there some people have to find it in there own time. I hope the website i provided and the countless story's you read bring comfort.
 
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theboy

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I have had spiritual experiences, and once I almost actually died. I believe in what you saw. I'll take a look at the website.
 
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niiina

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Im not afraid of death and I prefer to believe that theres nothing and that makes me more calm and peaceful, but your theory is nice and I hope it can help someone, great job spreading it around <3
 
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Mofreeko

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Apr 7, 2019
478
But I don't want to be a spooky ghost. :(
 
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It scares even more (To leave with a restless soul, but in the end not to leave...
 
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LeavingEarly

LeavingEarly

Specialist
Mar 19, 2022
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Im not afraid of death and I prefer to believe that theres nothing and that makes me more calm and peaceful, but your theory is nice and I hope it can help someone, great job spreading it around <3
Wow you don't fear death?
 
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Hiraeth Grimoire

Hiraeth Grimoire

Longing to answer the call of the Void
May 21, 2022
154
The best we can hope for is nonexistence, which may or may not be an option for us. If we are here by the will of a higher being, then this being is apathetic towards our suffering or outright sadistic. And if we are here by our own choosing, then we are idiots. We know nothing because if we existed before we had our minds wiped. And if we reincarnate over and over with mind wipes, how the hell are we supposed to learn anything? This place reeks of a prison planet, because the need for a soul to evolve is unnecessary, evolve to what, to dominate other souls? If the occult phrase "as above, so below, as within, so without" is true, then we are probably fucked. The soul evolution theory sounds a lot like Darwinism. I apologize for being so pessimistic, but I have already confirmed one bad reality to exist (this one) so I hope it is the only one, and it ends shortly.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
12,100
I do partly believe you because I do have a spiritual side.

However, honestly I think I'd prefer there to be nothing after death if there is the remote possibility it will be something horrible. (Likely if the 'designer' of this world created the afterlife too). Same as- I don't want to bring children into this world as the odds for them suffering and ending up like me is high. Therefore, I'd prefer to try and find a rational explanation for NDE.

I'd like to emphasize that I'm not hugely medically/scientifically knowledgeable but I'm not convinced you can be resuscitated from brain death (yet):



In which case- ANYONE who has come back from the dead still had some brain function in which case- did they really go anywhere or did they just imagine it? When you dream- do you really believe you go to those places?

The phrase 'Near Death Experience' kind of says it all for me- they weren't dead- only nearly dead- so maybe their experience belongs to this world rather than the next.

I think some supernatural 'ghost' experiences can be explained but I do have to agree with you that I do still kind of believe in them. I supposedly saw my Mum shortly after she died (I was 3) and a few of my family members have seen ghosts. Still not entirely convinced it's not our own minds playing tricks on us but I'm not a total skeptic.

Honestly, while I like the nice version of my past family members living on in heaven and still existing somewhere, more life of any kind pretty much horrifies me!
 
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Aboutblue

Aboutblue

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Aug 11, 2021
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The brain probably invents near death experiences. It could easily have to do with the brain shutting down or complex changes going on in the brain. I obviously have no clue what happens after death but my feeling is that based on how cruel nature is, and how hard life is in general, there is nothing spiritual going on after death. It just makes sense that your brain shuts down and that's it. No spirit, no afterlife, nothing.

There are also scientific explanations for hauntings. But obviously it's up to everyone to decide what they believe and what helps them the most.
 
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Raskolnikov's Axe

Raskolnikov's Axe

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Aug 31, 2022
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Man I hope I don't continue as any kind of energy after I ctb. Seems tiring.
 
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CowsAreCool

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Sep 21, 2021
149
Yeah well a lot of the people who believe in the ""We continue after the body/shell dies" idea also believe people who kill themselves will burn for eternity.

So the idea of an afterlife might not be as comforting as you think.
 
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gimzero

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Aug 15, 2022
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Probably its nothing after death we live in a system that erase you after death so easy and if there something a place that judge our souls then here it will be peacefull they know and keep control us with religions reincarnation heaven hell etc.
 
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jodes2

jodes2

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Im not afraid of death and I prefer to believe that theres nothing and that makes me more calm and peaceful, but your theory is nice and I hope it can help someone, great job spreading it around <3
Same
 
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obafgkm

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Jun 3, 2022
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If after death can be explained by science then death is not leaving the physical world. Death is just going from one physical world to another physical world, or maybe even the same. There is less incentive to end life then.
 
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foreverfalling

foreverfalling

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Jul 22, 2022
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We were all non existent before being born. If we can come out of it once, it could happen again...
 
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Sick&TiredURGH

Sick&TiredURGH

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Aug 8, 2022
80
I am looking forward to nothingness. I don't want my energy to move on or exist any more.
I reached the void once and that's the place I long to be
 
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Lauriso

Lauriso

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Jul 26, 2022
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I've wanted to believe in life after death for most of my life, it gave deeper meaning, but now I'm not so sure. Even if it exists, does it give a good reason against suicide?
 
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redeyepiranha

redeyepiranha

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Jun 22, 2022
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I personally prefer nonexistence and once I'm gone I hope I'll stay in the void, don't need next lives or whatever this shit is, but if your theory helps people to cope with reality, that's ok
 
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evey8112

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But I don't want to be a spooky ghost. The

The brain probably invents near death experiences. It could easily have to do with the brain shutting down or complex changes going on in the brain. I obviously have no clue what happens after death but my feeling is that based on how cruel nature is, and how hard life is in general, there is nothing spiritual going on after death. It just makes sense that your brain shuts down and that's it. No spirit, no afterlife, nothing.

There are also scientific explanations for hauntings. But obviously it's up to everyone to decide what they believe and what helps them the most.
You cant invent seeing yourself on the operating table while doctors are working on you then when you come back you tell them everything they did to work on you and it lines up
The best we can hope for is nonexistence, which may or may not be an option for us. If we are here by the will of a higher being, then this being is apathetic towards our suffering or outright sadistic. And if we are here by our own choosing, then we are idiots. We know nothing because if we existed before we had our minds wiped. And if we reincarnate over and over with mind wipes, how the hell are we supposed to learn anything? This place reeks of a prison planet, because the need for a soul to evolve is unnecessary, evolve to what, to dominate other souls? If the occult phrase "as above, so below, as within, so without" is true, then we are probably fucked. The soul evolution theory sounds a lot like Darwinism. I apologize for being so pessimistic, but I have already confirmed one bad reality to exist (this one) so I hope it is the only one, and it ends shortly.
Listen what ever helps you feel better is the goal here. I am just trying to provide the most scientific explanation which is we are all energy and it does not die. There is nobody on this forum who can tell me wrong because you would be going against something that the world has already proved does in fact exist. You may ask well where is this proof? Just do a simple google search and you will be shocked by the information out there. Nobody truly knows till the day we die and that is a fact.
 
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Aug 14, 2022
1,292
This is random but I remember reading this story maybe you can Google it or look it up there was a lady whose heart stopped beating her something and when they resuscitated her she claimed that she left her body and could see above the hospital and that there was a shoe on top the roof. Someone went on top of the roof to check and there was actually a shoe on the roof. I'm not sure if it's a true story or not.
I feel like we are eternal being which trips me up because then suicide would be a TEMPORARY solution to a permanent problem.. then I asked myself what the hell is the problem to begin with. There are many of teachings that say that we are here to become enlightened and self-realize to transcend the cycle we're stuck in but who the hell knows.
I know nothing but if there's two things I know for a fact it's that I AM & that I AM dying by my own hand.
 
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Anonymus

Enlightened
May 6, 2022
1,355
The only thing I know is that the 'software' present in our body somehow seems to be transferred to the collective after we die, as if to improve the species as a whole.
Regarding ghosts, they exist, but I don't know what their nature is. But I am convinced that they are not dead in life. My question is how they manage to access our memories in order to take the form of loved ones.

My theory is that ghosts are like a type of vulture that swarms around us when we are very weak in order to make or feed on our 'software' and that they use various strategies to "hunt" us. " before making the transfer to the living collective that makes up the human species.

For me the soul is a part of this 'software', I don't think there is any living creature on this planet that can function without any kind of program. Like almost any program stored on any physical medium, it is not possible to capture it through any means, because the software has no physical existence.

What I need to understand is how it would work above, the biological network of the human species or any other species. I would like to be a 'hacker' of this network to learn how to protect myself and meet other people who are dedicated to ensuring that it works well.

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Jo l'únic que sé, es que el 'software' present en el nostre cos d'alguna manera sembla transferirse al colectiu després de morir, com per millorar l'espécie en el seu conjunt.
Respecte als fantasmes, existeixen, però desconec quina és la seva naturalesa. Però estic convençut que no són morts en vida. El meu dubte és com aconsegueixen accedir als nostres records per tal de prendre forma d'éssers estimats.

La meva teoría es que els fantasmes són com un tipus de voltors que s'amunteguen al voltant nostre quan estem molt débils per tal de fer-se o alimentar-se del nostre 'software' i que fan servir diverses estratégies per "caçar-nos" abans de fer la transferéncia al col·lectiu en vida que conforma l'espécie humana.

Per mi l'ánima es una part d'aquest 'software', no crec que existeixi cap criatura viva d'aquest planeta que pugui funcionar sense cap tipus de programa. Al igual que quasevol programa enmagatzemat en un suport físic qualsevol, no es posible captar-lo mitjant cap sentit, doncs el software no te existéncia física.

El que em falta comprendre es com funcionaría per sobre, la xarxa biológica de l'espécie humana o qualsevol altre espécie. M'agradaría ser un 'hacker' d'aquesta xarxa per aprendre a protegir-me i conéixer, que de segur hi són, altres persones que es dediquen a vetllar pel seu bon funcionament.
 
Aboutblue

Aboutblue

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You cant invent seeing yourself on the operating table while doctors are working on you then when you come back you tell them everything they did to work on you and it lines up

Listen what ever helps you feel better is the goal here. I am just trying to provide the most scientific explanation which is we are all energy and it does not die. There is nobody on this forum who can tell me wrong because you would be going against something that the world has already proved does in fact exist. You may ask well where is this proof? Just do a simple google search and you will be shocked by the information out there. Nobody truly knows till the day we die and that is a fact.
Yes, you can invent that. Google scientific explanations for near death experiences. Yours is not the most scientific explanation at all. There's studies on this you can read. I'm not going to argue about this, though.
 
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Idontmatter

Just want it all to be over
Oct 25, 2021
647
I'm more afraid of failing and surviving my attempt. I'll be nervous during the process but I've accepted my fate as far as death.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,269
No matter what people say I will never believe that there is anything after death. I believe that when we die we cease to exist and that is it for us. But whatever happens after death we will have to face it one day eventually and it's out of our control. This is why I could never fear death as it's simply inevitable for us all. There is no point to fearing it.
 
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GreyCTB

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Aug 26, 2022
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Yes, you can invent that. Google scientific explanations for near death experiences. Yours is not the most scientific explanation at all. There's studies on this you can read. I'm not going to argue about this, though.

The brain probably invents near death experiences. It could easily have to do with the brain shutting down or complex changes going on in the brain. I obviously have no clue what happens after death but my feeling is that based on how cruel nature is, and how hard life is in general, there is nothing spiritual going on after death. It just makes sense that your brain shuts down and that's it. No spirit, no afterlife, nothing.

There are also scientific explanations for hauntings. But obviously it's up to everyone to decide what they believe and what helps them the most.
There is actually no proof for that.
I have talked to scientists about NDE phenomenons. Almost every single scientist will dismiss anything that conflicts with their worldview. Even when confronted with evidence that proves NDE is not a chemical process they keep insisting that it is.
 
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tabletop

Student
Oct 8, 2019
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I disagree with the claim that we have eternal souls because we are energy and energy can't be destroyed. One does not equal the other.

I mean the dinosaurs energy never was destroyed. Now we harvest said energy as oil. And we burn it off into the air where it continues to exist. It doesn't mean it's conscious.
 
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Hope:-)

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Jul 3, 2022
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Strangely I have never really been afraid of death. I believe in an afterlife for a multitude of reasons. One being that I just think we love each other too much for this not to be an eternal thing. I have a fear of pain instead x
 
Hollowillow

Hollowillow

The only place that allows negative feelings.
Aug 7, 2022
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I know a ton of people are not going to want to hear this but "We continue after the body/shell dies" We are all energy, I am not spitting out some new new age bullshit its the truth science and countless research has confirmed it. Too also top it off my house i lived in 2 years ago was what most people would say was "haunted" it had a spirit of a woman who used to live there my lights would come on and off doors open and close on there own any thing electronic would go off on its own and i would hear constant foot steps going up and down the stairs at night. I seen these things with my own 2 eyes! We are souls having a human experience. We are here to evolve our souls. If you still are questioning it just visit this website https://www.nderf.org/ and read the thousands of NDE experiences of people some that were brain dead and had the most amazing experience beyond words can describe. I am not trying to push my what i believe on others but the proof is there some people have to find it in there own time. I hope the website i provided and the countless story's you read bring comfort.
I Had near death experiences. I saw trees of light of infinite quantum physic possibilities... And The Nothing.

Shit... I planned to die in a hysterical despair to overcome SI but it could bind my tormented spirit here... Fuck. Lucky people finding peace
 
Gustav Hartmann

Gustav Hartmann

Enlightened
Aug 28, 2021
1,073
The question whether there is an afterlife or not is so important for most people here and some of them will kill themselves soon. So please, give us a sign from the other side on this website, I promise I will do my best.
 
TigerFestival

TigerFestival

Sigh
Aug 21, 2022
30
I disagree with the claim that we have eternal souls because we are energy and energy can't be destroyed. One does not equal the other.

I mean the dinosaurs energy never was destroyed. Now we harvest said energy as oil. And we burn it off into the air where it continues to exist. It doesn't mean it's conscious.
This pretty much. I hate being that guy, but the afterlife just doesn't seem very plausible since no one has ever risen from the grave to tell us what's it like being dead.

I know a ton of people are not going to want to hear this but "We continue after the body/shell dies" We are all energy, I am not spitting out some new new age bullshit its the truth science and countless research has confirmed it. Too also top it off my house i lived in 2 years ago was what most people would say was "haunted" it had a spirit of a woman who used to live there my lights would come on and off doors open and close on there own any thing electronic would go off on its own and i would hear constant foot steps going up and down the stairs at night. I seen these things with my own 2 eyes! We are souls having a human experience. We are here to evolve our souls. If you still are questioning it just visit this website https://www.nderf.org/ and read the thousands of NDE experiences of people some that were brain dead and had the most amazing experience beyond words can describe. I am not trying to push my what i believe on others but the proof is there some people have to find it in there own time. I hope the website i provided and the countless story's you read bring comfort.
Again I hate being that guy, but where are the articles that scientists confirmed that there is an afterlife? Also anecdotes are insufficient, please bring hard evidence.
 

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