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Foresight

Foresight

Enlightened
Jun 14, 2019
1,393
at least leave us alone if you find us. Good God, these stories of people being "saved" disturbs me.

Imagine getting your method good to go, kicking the survival instinct's ass and finally going for it just to be "saved". Now you're brain damaged, mutilated, or whatever other massive issue. Gives me chills. I'm doing my research and this story came up of a young girl who tried hanging. She's now brain damaged. You can tell she's gone but still here. Far worse fate than death.
 
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Wails

Wails

Ghostly wailing
Jan 16, 2022
72
I feel so bad for her. This is really one of my biggest fears. Some people don't understand that some of us actually want to ctb and that it isn't a "cry for help"
 
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Foresight

Enlightened
Jun 14, 2019
1,393
I feel so bad for her. This is really one of my biggest fears. Some people don't understand that some of us actually want to ctb and that it isn't a "cry for help"
It's so awful. I knew a girl in high school. She was beautiful and bright. She got into a car accident and sustained a devastating brain injury. The doctors said that was that but the father pushed for more medical intervention. Now over a decade later she drools all over herself and has the personality of a toddler. She never got better even after her family raised thousands for special treatments.

I don't discriminate against the lives of people with disabilities but it is a very weird feeling to see someone just gone but still here. It's terrifying. Are they in there? Is there subtle awareness of who they were and who they are now?

The worst I've seen were "saved" gunshots. Inhumane.
 
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fatefulstillness

fatefulstillness

ghost.
Oct 24, 2021
151
God, nothing makes me angrier than this. Knowing that people can be so cruel and selfish to interrupt someone's suicide and leave them with a horrible aftermath just to defend their own views makes my skin crawl. No one should suffer like this.
 
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PreussenBlueJay

PreussenBlueJay

Too short for Frederick William I’s Guards
Jan 18, 2022
211
Logically I can see why someone would choose to take their own life, but in the heat of the moment I would probably want to intervene if I witnessed something happening, especially if it were a family member. I'm not surprised that a father would go to such lengths for his daughter. I agree with you though that it would be too painful to have them around as a constant reminder that they aren't really there anymore. Wanting to take care of them but also being filled with regret would be overwhelming.
 
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Crazy4u

Crazy4u

Enlightened
Sep 29, 2021
1,318
It is insane IMO. It doesn't have to be so difficult to ctb. People keep trying to find ways to avoid being interrupted or found. Even in the PPH book, the author mentioned the risk of being found several times.

Today I read a post about a woman who was trying to jump from a tower to ctb. There were at least 10 firefighters in addition to police officers. They were bragging about saving the woman! she probably got nervous and couldn't jump.
 
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_Minsk

_Minsk

death: the cure for life
Dec 9, 2019
1,135
it's horrible and the survivor gets even more traumatized and pushed to the next attempt with worse methods..
 
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Hirokami

Hirokami

Out of order
Feb 21, 2021
607
Not being able to function the same way you used to, is a fate worse than death especially if you're aware of the fact. It's like your trapped in a prison you can't escape from. If loved ones want to go, it's better to let them not suffer anymore than to make them suffer even more.
 
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Foresight

Enlightened
Jun 14, 2019
1,393
Society should also take care of us ghosts they're restraining in this life. Can't get on social security for my problem, can't work a job with my problem. Can't get any N money. My level of anxiety and frustration is peaking. I hate feeling trapped.

I'm so frustrated by these methods and everything that can go wrong. Even my gun isn't good enough. I think it's a .22.
 
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demuic

demuic

Life was a mistake
Sep 12, 2020
1,383
It's so awful. I knew a girl in high school. She was beautiful and bright. She got into a car accident and sustained a devastating brain injury. The doctors said that was that but the father pushed for more medical intervention. Now over a decade later she drools all over herself and has the personality of a toddler. She never got better even after her family raised thousands for special treatments.

I don't discriminate against the lives of people with disabilities but it is a very weird feeling to see someone just gone but still here. It's terrifying. Are they in there? Is there subtle awareness of who they were and who they are now?
That is just cruelty and selfishness. That girl died when she got that brain injury and now they are just dragging her corpse around for years because they can't deal with the fact she's gone. People are so scared of death that they refuse to understand there are many things far worse than death.
 
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Foresight

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Jun 14, 2019
1,393
I check up on her every so often and she's just gone. They post videos of her on facebook. There are videos of her being fed barely able to chew. She can't talk. They post it try to get more money for treatments. I know they're spending it honestly, but she is not going to improve. It disturbs me.

Please be "safe" everyone. It's not fair we're put in a position where we could end up like that instead of released from it all.
 
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avoid_slow_death

avoid_slow_death

Ready to embrace the peaceful bliss of the void.
Feb 4, 2020
1,358
Stories like this both break my heart and piss me off. On one hand, it's sad to see a family so desperate to save a loved one that they will go to these lengths. Grief can sometimes cause us to do insanely illogical things.

On the other hand, it is a very cruel thing to let people suffer like that when in all honesty, letting them go would be much better for them. Some people, either because of physical or mental trauma are better off passing on as their lives will likely always be a Hell on Earth.
 
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LastFlowers

LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
2,170
at least leave us alone if you find us. Good God, these stories of people being "saved" disturbs me.

Imagine getting your method good to go, kicking the survival instinct's ass and finally going for it just to be "saved". Now you're brain damaged, mutilated, or whatever other massive issue. Gives me chills. I'm doing my research and this story came up of a young girl who tried hanging. She's now brain damaged. You can tell she's gone but still here. Far worse fate than death.
My worst fucking nightmare.
Someone posted a video awhile back of parents parading around their adult son who was left brain damaged from a suicide attempt..it absolutely disgusted me that they continued to drag him through life when he's not even HIM anymore, he can't speak up, can't make conversation, mouth agape in an eternal confusion, this is why we should never be pro-life, only pro-quality of life, otherwise there is no fucking point.
If that happened to a loved one of mine, I would risk my own skin to put them out of their misery mercifully, even if I hated their guts or selfishly wanted their presence to last by my side, I would find a way to do what was right.
Stories like this both break my heart and piss me off. On one hand, it's sad to see a family so desperate to save a loved one that they will go to these lengths. Grief can sometimes cause us to do insanely illogical things.

On the other hand, it is a very cruel thing to let people suffer like that when in all honesty, letting them go would be much better for them. Some people, either because of physical or mental trauma are better off passing on as their lives will likely always be a Hell on Earth.
I saw a commercial once where a mother (not quite verbatim) said of her dying son:
"I'll take him any way I can get him, just save him"…to me, those words, the fact that she would take him in whatever reduced and incredibly torturous form just so she could have him, is beyond disturbing.
People so desperate to cling onto life, that they forget the whole purpose of it, if there is any to begin with..though it's certainly not to rot as a vegetable for the rest of your days so your mama can visit you in a hospital bed instead of the grave.
That is just cruelty and selfishness. That girl died when she got that brain injury and now they are just dragging her corpse around for years because they can't deal with the fact she's gone. People are so scared of death that they refuse to understand there are many things far worse than death.
They're basically erasing any last piece of dignity she had and replacing it with a prolonged period of humiliation and total loss of autonomy.
I wonder if cruelty is an understatement.
It is insane IMO. It doesn't have to be so difficult to ctb. People keep trying to find ways to avoid being interrupted or found. Even in the PPH book, the author mentioned the risk of being found several times.

Today I read a post about a woman who was trying to jump from a tower to ctb. There were at least 10 firefighters in addition to police officers. They were bragging about saving the woman! she probably got nervous and couldn't jump.
Jesus that would make me want to kill myself even more, practically making a public show of a person's attempt.
(Only attention seekers would enjoy that amount of eyes on them.)
I can't stand people who brag about being "heroes" when it comes to suicide.
I think that those attempting (and interfered with) should be allowed to sue like in that scene from The Incredibles lol
Logically I can see why someone would choose to take their own life, but in the heat of the moment I would probably want to intervene if I witnessed something happening, especially if it were a family member. I'm not surprised that a father would go to such lengths for his daughter. I agree with you though that it would be too painful to have them around as a constant reminder that they aren't really there anymore. Wanting to take care of them but also being filled with regret would be overwhelming.
That's not going great lengths for his daughter, that's going great lengths for himself.
Nothing respectable or stand-up about it, it's just vile.
Perhaps if your family member was impulsive straight off the heels of a recent event and they were right in front of you waving a gun around or something, maybe I could understand the urge to grab it.
But once they are in the act, or if they've been caught in hell for an extended period of time, it's time to step back, or in this case-make sure they're finally put out of their misery.
 
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BeansOfRequirement

BeansOfRequirement

Man-child, loser, autistic, etc.
Jan 26, 2021
5,789
I check up on her every so often and she's just gone. They post videos of her on facebook. There are videos of her being fed barely able to chew. She can't talk. They post it try to get more money for treatments. I know they're spending it honestly, but she is not going to improve. It disturbs me.
Insanity.
 
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Amumu

Amumu

Ctb - temporary solution for a permanent problem
Aug 29, 2020
2,623
That's why not being found is the most important thing in the world. Remember, people are assholes: psychiatrists will either fear legal consequences and drop you or put you in a ward, families will do the exact same thing because of evolutionary instinct, and most friends will do the same too.

FUCK MEDICINE. FUCK FAMILY. (ALMOST) FUCK FRIENDS.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,570
I believe that the option of a peaceful suicide should be a human right, nobody should have to resort to methods that could fail. Stopping a suicide attempt is just prolonging a persons suffering, the right to die should always be respected. Failing an attempt and being left with damage is my worst nightmare. Many people who stop suicide attempts do it out of selfishness (when it is family members for example) and when it is strangers I believe they do not care about the person but they are just doing it to make themselves feel better. It is a horrible, depressing world we live in, I do not want to be a part of this world.
 
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Sherri

Archangel
Sep 28, 2020
13,794
I used to think a gun was the best option , but there are cases where the person lives, and in most cases they do become Brain damaged, paralysed, a fake eye. So my option about guns did change.
 
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