If only depression and suicide got the same level of care and support cancer gets

[FireFox]

I live in the UK and yesterday the Princess of Wales Kate Middleton announced she has cancer and undergoing preventative chemotherapy. Our King also has cancer too.

As usual whenever someone announces they have cancer the reaction is often " They are so brave" , " we are so sorry we are here help" etc. Majority of the time it is an outpouring of love and support . If a person says they have depression or any mental illness the story is different. The reaction is a more hostile reaction with the folks" you know people have it harder than you", "get over it" " attention seeker" etc. The support depending on family and friends some people do get support but many others don't. These people lose friends and experience family being unsympathetic.

Cancer charities get billions in donations because when it comes to cancer people will always feel sympathy and strongly about it because they know someone who suffers or has died from cancer. Cancer research has evolved in finding better treatments because of public donations. Cancer patients get a lot of support for things as in the UK specialist initiatives exist to help cancer sufferers and their families.

If depression and suicide had the same care and support that cancer gets then maybe treatment outcomes for depression will not be as poor like we see today.

 

[alltoomuch2]

Totally agree. And at the moment the media seem to constantly commenting that people don't have mental health problems, they just don't want to work. Makes me want to jump off a very high building.

 

[Throwawayacc3]

Please don't fall for this nonsense. Those so called "people" have UNLIMITED FUNDS AND RESOURCES. They can pay for anything they want. We are peasants to them. Pieces of shit. I've worked with higher net worth people and some things they said were sickening. I'm kind of glad my business is nearly dead because I can't take these people anymore.

Testicular cancer at 20. Only reason why I did ok (I've explained this in another thread) is because my GP referred me to "private style" care. Went to UCH and had a lot done.

Cancer Research UK - read their accounts (for any year) and you'll see how fucked up they are. Someone I know worked there and his salary was circa £60,000 a year for fucking marketing!!! He couldn't answer when I said why is so little put towards research but people who "work" there are on these huge salaries - he couldn't answer - he's neurotypical though so gotta stay with the chain of command! Sell people out as long as the pay check comes in!

All these people at the top make our life's WORSE - politicians, royal family, corrupt corporations, etc. they can fuck right off for all I care. Boo hoo - go back to your mansion and private jets to protect the environment. Fucking hypocrites.

 

[Ironborn]

Because people who are suicidal see the world for the shithole it is and if the good samaritans took more than a cursory glance it would shatter their fragile perception of reality.
"Remember kids denial is a hell of a drug."

 

[divinemistress36]

The general public doesn't give a fuck about the mentally ill

 

[Throwawayacc3]

Oh and you know why they don't show any medical photos? Because they are at high end institutions and people would be pissed. They blab on about the NHS but never use it!!!



This was approx 2012 (after cancer operation). Yes it's me (you can cross reference my arm with the cockatoo I was holding in anther thread if you want). Even though this care was higher - these "royals" will have nothing that looks like this. Even at day 4 they were nudging me to say time to go home now - even sitting up was the worst. Just getting into a wheelchair to outside and into the car took hours. Because every movement felt like it was pushing my abdomen so blood was leaking out in places. NOW it's probably 1,000 times worst given the 67,000,000 and more on this tiny little piece of shit island.

 

[zengiraffe]

I did some casual Googling and apparently suicide causes around 6k deaths per year in the UK and cancer causes around 167k deaths per year in the UK. Cancer kills 28x more people than suicide in the UK, so it kind of makes sense that it gets 28x more media coverage and medical research.

 

[UKscotty]

The government does nothing for suicide prevention here in the UK. They cut crisis teams, push people to poverty and make it too easy for people to kill themselves.

If you're not a high rate tax payer, the government would prefer you dead.

 

[Throwawayacc3]

I did some casual Googling and apparently suicide causes around 6k deaths per year in the UK and cancer causes around 167k deaths per year in the UK. Cancer kills 28x more people than suicide in the UK, so it kind of makes sense that it gets 28x more media coverage and medical research.

That's too generalised. I lost the genetic lottery. I didn't drink, smoke, exercised, etc and still got it. Now with suicide it can be genetic (epigentics) but I'd say it's way more prevalent from environment, family, trauma, etc. You can't compare the two on deaths are they are comparable.
Oh to add. I want to be very clear:

DO NOT GIVE ANY MONEY/RESOURCES TO HUMAN CHARITIES
Caveat: you able to access their accounts (which by law they should be public) and have it read. You'll eventually realise that a lot of these charities are very profitable. Ironic that their status is non-profit. Want to get wealthy? Start a charity. Neurotypical masses love a bit of virtue signaling and giving to a cause that does fuck all to help the actual point of the charity.

 

[FireFox]

Totally agree. And at the moment the media seem to constantly commenting that people don't have mental health problems, they just don't want to work. Makes me want to jump off a very high building.

@alltoomuch2 The UK jobs market is not fair. Our corrupt government and media like to blame immigrants for taking UK jobs but never the corporate corrupt employers.

I blame the employers for the unfair job market. Employers don't want to train even trainee entry level jobs require 3 years experience. How is this fair ? Employers don't want to pay fair wages which is why they hire migrants to exploit. Our government and media allows this disgusting system and wants us the public to believe its the migrants fault.

Lots of people in the UK especially young adults do not see the point in working as no matter how hard they work it will not be rewarded for it. Wages are too low in this country, employers do not appreciate talent and the list endless.

The UK government and corporate employers are 100% to blame

Oh and you know why they don't show any medical photos? Because they are at high end institutions and people would be pissed. They blab on about the NHS but never use it!!!

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This was approx 2012 (after cancer operation). Yes it's me (you can cross reference my arm with the cockatoo I was holding in anther thread if you want). Even though this care was higher - these "royals" will have nothing that looks like this. Even at day 4 they were nudging me to say time to go home now - even sitting up was the worst. Just getting into a wheelchair to outside and into the car took hours. Because every movement felt like it was pushing my abdomen so blood was leaking out in places. NOW it's probably 1,000 times worst given the 67,000,000 and more on this tiny little piece of shit island.

@Throwawayacc3 How are you doing now ?

I think the reason why the Royals do not show hospital photos is because of privacy and security. The Royals tend to use the same hospitals and doctors for treatments. If you take hospital photos of the Royals stalkers overtime looking at hospital room will be able to work out the design of the hospital and locate the royals.

Remember already staff working in the hospital where Kate Middleton had her surgery tried to steal her medical records. The staff members involved are currently suspended and under investigation

It is true Kate Middleton will have the best care in the country, it is such a shame healthcare is so unequal in the UK. Everyone regardless of social background should have the right to acess good quality healthcare. The NHS is broken and it is such a shame as a country we can't talk about that properly in a civilised manner.

The government does nothing for suicide prevention here in the UK. They cut crisis teams, push people to poverty and make it too easy for people to kill themselves.

If you're not a high rate tax payer, the government would prefer you dead.

@UKscotty The worst thing is people act like it so f*cking easy to see a therapist for treatment. If it was so easy we would all be doing it

I have had judgmental arseholes and morons on a discord digal detox group tell me to try free therapy in my city which is available and blamed me for not "trying hard enough" and calling me "lazy" and finding "excuses"

Free therapy and lost therapy options in my city come with criteria which I do not meet. Some free therapy or low cost therapy you need to either live in a certain Borough to eligible, The Mind charities in my city do this a lot and a majority of services cater to those on the mild to moderate end of mental illness. I have suicidal thoughts ongoing and anoxeria out of control I have to unfortunately go through the NHS services

These F*cking mental wellness idiots think they know everything, when they know f*ck all about the system.

The general public doesn't give a fuck about the mentally ill

@divinemistress36 Nobody cares until you actually die.

If I were to kill myself sucessfully the same bullshit society along with my family and community will be talking about how my death is "tragic" and be preaching about suicide prevention and "reaching out"

The same society and people that did not give a shit about me when I alive nor didn't listen either or helped me with my problems so I live a good quality of live. It is these same people who treated me like an inconvenience in their lives whenever I reached out.

It should not take someone dying and no longer being present for people and communities to finally start seeing value in that individual. People should be appreciated alwsys in life and shown they do matter and belong.Nobody cares until you die is just so not fair.

Please don't fall for this nonsense. Those so called "people" have UNLIMITED FUNDS AND RESOURCES. They can pay for anything they want. We are peasants to them. Pieces of shit. I've worked with higher net worth people and some things they said were sickening. I'm kind of glad my business is nearly dead because I can't take these people anymore.

Testicular cancer at 20. Only reason why I did ok (I've explained this in another thread) is because my GP referred me to "private style" care. Went to UCH and had a lot done.

Cancer Research UK - read their accounts (for any year) and you'll see how fucked up they are. Someone I know worked there and his salary was circa £60,000 a year for fucking marketing!!! He couldn't answer when I said why is so little put towards research but people who "work" there are on these huge salaries - he couldn't answer - he's neurotypical though so gotta stay with the chain of command! Sell people out as long as the pay check comes in!

All these people at the top make our life's WORSE - politicians, royal family, corrupt corporations, etc. they can fuck right off for all I care. Boo hoo - go back to your mansion and private jets to protect the environment. Fucking hypocrites.

@Throwawayacc3

>Cancer Research UK - read their accounts (for any year) and you'll see how fucked up they are. Someone I know worked there and his salary was circa £60,000 a year for fucking marketing!!!

That is an abomination. I am NOT anti charity but The problem with the UK is there is too many charities abusing the goodwill and kindness of the British public and this needs to stop.

It is disgusting how charity CEOs and managers get these enormous bloated salaries while the workers get little salary. Here in Britian last year a homeless charity's staff went on strike over pay.You can't make this up. This is so disgraceful.

Homelessness charity Shelter’s staff start ‘unprecedented’ two-week strike

More than 600 staff set to walk out over pay, with Unite saying some workers worried about becoming homeless themselves

www.google.com

 

[Throwawayacc3]

@alltoomuch2 The UK jobs market is not fair. Our corrupt government and media like to blame immigrants for taking UK jobs but never the corporate corrupt employers.

I blame the employers for the unfair job market. Employers don't want to train even trainee entry level jobs require 3 years experience. How is this fair ? Employers don't want to pay fair wages which is why they hire migrants to exploit. Our government and media allows this disgusting system and wants us the public to believe its the migrants fault.

Lots of people in the UK especially young adults do not see the point in working as no matter how hard they work it will not be rewarded for it. Wages are too low in this country, employers do not appreciate talent and the list endless.

The UK government and corporate employers are 100% to blame


@Throwawayacc3 How are you doing now ?

I think the reason why the Royals do not show hospital photos is because of privacy and security. The Royals tend to use the same hospitals and doctors for treatments. If you take hospital photos of the Royals stalkers overtime looking at hospital room will be able to work out the design of the hospital and locate the royals.

Remember already staff working in the hospital where Kate Middleton had her surgery tried to steal her medical records. The staff members involved are currently suspended and under investigation

It is true Kate Middleton will have the best care in the country, it is such a shame healthcare is so unequal in the UK. Everyone regardless of social background should have the right to acess good quality healthcare. The NHS is broken and it is such a shame as a country we can't talk about that properly in a civilised manner.

@UKscotty The worst thing is people act like it so f*cking easy to see a therapist for treatment. If it was so easy we would all be doing it

I have had judgmental arseholes and morons on a discord digal detox group tell me to try free therapy in my city which is available and blamed me for not "trying hard enough" and calling me "lazy" and finding "excuses"

Free therapy and lost therapy options in my city come with criteria which I do not meet. Some free therapy or low cost therapy you need to either live in a certain Borough to eligible, The Mind charities in my city do this a lot and a majority of services cater to those on the mild to moderate end of mental illness. I have suicidal thoughts ongoing and anoxeria out of control I have to unfortunately go through the NHS services

These F*cking mental wellness idiots think they know everything, when they know f*ck all about the system.

@divinemistress36 Nobody cares until you actually die.

If I were to kill myself sucessfully the same bullshit society along with my family and community will be talking about how my death is "tragic" and be preaching about suicide prevention and "reaching out"

The same society and people that did not give a shit about me when I alive nor didn't listen either or helped me with my problems so I live a good quality of live. It is these same people who treated me like an inconvenience in their lives whenever I reached out.

It should not take someone dying and no longer being present for people and communities to finally start seeing value in that individual. People should be appreciated alwsys in life and shown they do matter and belong.Nobody cares until you die is just so not fair.

@Throwawayacc3

>Cancer Research UK - read their accounts (for any year) and you'll see how fucked up they are. Someone I know worked there and his salary was circa £60,000 a year for fucking marketing!!!

That is an abomination. I am NOT anti charity but The problem with the UK is there is too many charities abusing the goodwill and kindness of the British public and this needs to stop.

It is disgusting how charity CEOs and managers get these enormous bloated salaries while the workers get little salary. Here in Britian last year a homeless charity's staff went on strike over pay.You can't make this up. This is so disgraceful.

Homelessness charity Shelter’s staff start ‘unprecedented’ two-week strike

More than 600 staff set to walk out over pay, with Unite saying some workers worried about becoming homeless themselves

www.google.com

I'm not here to say be anti charity but don't take my word for it. Try this: pick a UK charity (preferably a larger one), go to their website and find their accounts for the most recent year (honestly any year it'll be the same). You don't need to be an accountant to see what's going on: have a look at their expenditure, funds on marketing, research, etc. Once you see this pattern you will become anti charity very quickly. Plus why give to human charities? We are all garbage anyway.

One exception as I said in another thread : give to an animal sanctuary (just check who's running it and what's going on) if it's a husband and wife and they are rescuing animals then 97% + it's going to be good and welfare for the animals. They can have the planet not us useless meat sacks.
Shoebilled stork. This creature looks like something from Jurassic Park! Won evolution- losing because of humans. So ironic.