If I write a goodbye letter in which I mention people who have abused me and write that I ctb cause of them will it give them consequences after ctb?

[HopefulSleep]

My initial plan was to not leave a goodbye letter but I came to the idea of writing that the reason for my suicide are people who sexually abused me in the hope of that they get some consequences for it.

The first thing I can think of is that this maybe has legal consequences, but does that count as proper evidence if I claim to ctb because of this?
I don't know much about the law but I think that this maybe counts as more evidence than just saying this.
One of the abusers texted me some weeks ago something like "the only reason I touched you against your consent was because you are a dumb loser and it makes fun to hurt you no one finds you attractive" but the problem is he did that with an alt account on discord and he probably isn't logged in in there so this could only be used as real evidence if it can get linked to him.

What can also happen is that my family will haunt him forever and maybe take revenge impulsively after I am dead, they would basically do my work then whcih would also be good but I don't know if they do it for me so I care about legal consequences.
My family thinks I am alright and don't understand me and are mentally abusive but I know my mother is traumatized from me nearly succeeding with ctb in the past so she will do something but probably tries to make legal action and my brother will probably rage and do something else with the abusers.

I don't want to revenge myself cause I would go to jail if I would do it in the way I think would fit and legally I am too ashamed of talking about it in real life what happened and in germany "minor" sexual assault doesn't count as a big crime so the worst that would happen to them is that they would have to pay some money or some bullshit, so I would like to know if they can get any consequences if I mention that it is their fault of me dying.

And also I thought that maybe this would reduce the consequences for me if I survive.
I think I won't survive but for the case maybe they will then put them in a psych ward except of torturing me in them or they don't put me in one but the abusers get in legal trouble but maybe I am just dumb and this makes no sense and it wouldn't decrease the punishment I would get for failing.

 

[Goodgirlryeo101]

You can do whatever brings you peace before you complete CTB… I truly wish you a journey to eternal peace once you have completed ctb….

 

[HopefulSleep]

You can do whatever brings you peace before you complete CTB… I truly wish you a journey to eternal peace once you have completed ctb….

I still would like to know what could happen to the abusers after my death.

 

[enviro400mmc]

I wouldn't get your hopes up to be honest. That's just the horrible world we live in - you can never really expect justice and the best thing you can really do is attempt to move on, learn to live (or CTB of course) with it and focus on yourself.

I am of course being a huge hypocrite when I say this, as someone who has practically given up on life partially out of my inability to get over extremely minor (far less bad than what you have had to go through) hurt in my life.

 

[Goodgirlryeo101]

I still would like to know what could happen to the abusers after my death.

You will be at eternal peace and that's the most important thing. Abusers will find a new person to abuse until they die themselves… I hope you stop worrying about them and focus on completing your ctb successfully …

 

[HopefulSleep]

attempt to move on, learn to live with it and focus on yourself.

I will ctb anyway, would prefer some kind of damage to people who hurt me with it.

 

[enviro400mmc]

I will ctb anyway, would prefer some kind of damage to people who hurt me with it.

Sorry should have made clear that of course if you want to CTB that is of course your decision and I respect that.

Personally I think it is always better to leave a note to clarify things anyway, I definitely plan on doing so myself. It's difficult to know whether outing your abuser will lead to consequences but it might be a good thing for you to do anyway, it can be quite therapeutic.

 

[SexyIncél]

I don't know your situation. But I suspect it can work if you publish your note on all the social media: school whatsapp groups, etc. Maybe journalistic media too

I think you probably shouldn't "play the victim" — because sadly, in the bully/victim/audience triad, audiences often enable the bully. Better to make it about warning others. Give them evidence as to your bully's "qualities". With the discord screenshot, note the bully's sick cleverness. Speculate whether this creep has been sexually assaulting others: other people's children, other people's siblings. Maybe hold teachers and school administrators to account, if they ignored complaints

Ideally, write quotably, and reasonably briefly

I don't know if these would succeed, but they could maximize your chances of troubling that sick, pathetic bully

 

[HopefulSleep]

Personally I think it is always better to leave a note to clarify things anyway

I don't want to do this for clarification, I don't care about my family I just want the most consequences for the abusers.

It's difficult to know whether outing your abuser will lead to consequences but it might be a good thing for you to do anyway, it can be quite therapeutic.

What does it matter if it is therapeutic if my brain can't be fixed and I have to die?

But I suspect it can work if you publish your note on all the social media: school whatsapp groups, etc. Maybe journalistic media too

You mean that I make a timed messages on multiple social media platforms?
That would be very complicated to do on most sites.

People don't believe me if I don't kill myself anyway so doing it before is pointless.

I think you probably shouldn't "play the victim" — because sadly, in the bully/victim/audience triad, audiences often enable the bully.

I told my "friends" back then and they made fun of me for it and don't believe me anyway, I am alone in my apartment now 24/7.

With the discord screenshot, note the bully's sick cleverness.

No evidence it is him.

Speculate whether this creep has been sexually assaulting others

Probably did but mostly me I think.

other people's children, other people's siblings

He is not into children afaik, he is mostly into molesting people his age.

Maybe hold teachers and school administrators to account, if they ignored complaints

By german laws minor sexual assault isn't important afaik I saw it happen to others sometimes and heard about it happen to others and nothing happened to abusers.

Ideally, write quotably, and reasonably briefly

I thought about maybe also mentioning everyone else who also mentally or physically abused me.
For example when I was a teenager someone in sports lesson put a rope around my neck and strangled me, I don't know if I should it mention cause it is not that bad but it still makes me angry to think about.

 

[Vizzy]

My initial plan was to not leave a goodbye letter but I came to the idea of writing that the reason for my suicide are people who sexually abused me in the hope of that they get some consequences for it.

The first thing I can think of is that this maybe has legal consequences, but does that count as proper evidence if I claim to ctb because of this?
I don't know much about the law but I think that this maybe counts as more evidence than just saying this.
One of the abusers texted me some weeks ago something like "the only reason I touched you against your consent was because you are a dumb loser and it makes fun to hurt you no one finds you attractive" but the problem is he did that with an alt account on discord and he probably isn't logged in in there so this could only be used as real evidence if it can get linked to him.

What can also happen is that my family will haunt him forever and maybe take revenge impulsively after I am dead, they would basically do my work then whcih would also be good but I don't know if they do it for me so I care about legal consequences.
My family thinks I am alright and don't understand me and are mentally abusive but I know my mother is traumatized from me nearly succeeding with ctb in the past so she will do something but probably tries to make legal action and my brother will probably rage and do something else with the abusers.

I don't want to revenge myself cause I would go to jail if I would do it in the way I think would fit and legally I am too ashamed of talking about it in real life what happened and in germany "minor" sexual assault doesn't count as a big crime so the worst that would happen to them is that they would have to pay some money or some bullshit, so I would like to know if they can get any consequences if I mention that it is their fault of me dying.

And also I thought that maybe this would reduce the consequences for me if I survive.
I think I won't survive but for the case maybe they will then put them in a psych ward except of torturing me in them or they don't put me in one but the abusers get in legal trouble but maybe I am just dumb and this makes no sense and it wouldn't decrease the punishment I would get for failing.

Police will do preliminary investigation on the people you mentioned in your goodbye letter but prosecution will be unlikely or depends on the prosecutor and how much evidence you provide against your abusers just a letter not gonna do the job

 

[HopefulSleep]

Police will do preliminary investigation on the people you mentioned in your goodbye letter but prosecution will be unlikely or depends on the prosecutor and how much evidence you provide against your abusers just a letter not gonna do the job

I don't have much evidence.
But my family will hate them.

 

[GasMonkey]

You mean that I make a timed messages on multiple social media platforms?

Facebook no longer allows scheduled messages on personal profiles, I wanted to use that.

 

[Vizzy]

Facebook no longer allows scheduled messages on personal profiles, I wanted to use that.

Try gmail scheduled message

 

[HopefulSleep]

Facebook no longer allows scheduled messages on personal profiles, I wanted to use that.

Most people don't use facebook anymore anyway.

Try gmail scheduled message

Tho whom should I send the mails?

 

[Vizzy]

Most people don't use facebook anymore anyway.

Tho whom should I send the mails?

In my case, I will schedule my message after 24 hours I started my ctb, I will send 10 messages every hour to my condo management lol , I will continue to do this for another 10 hours like totally 100 messages, I don't think they can miss 100 messages lol because I don't want my body to be rotten

Condo management will do all the necessary procedures after they find my body!

 

[GasMonkey]

Try gmail scheduled message

I wanted to do a scheduled post on my wall.

 

[Vizzy]

I wanted to do a scheduled post on my wall.

Facebook removed that option but you can use third party tools to schedule posts in Facebook

Can I schedule Facebook posts on a personal profile?

Here is how to schedule Facebook posts on a personal Facebook Profile - rather than a Page.

blog.oneupapp.io

 

[GasMonkey]

The problem with that is that the app has to be running to do the post, your smartphone has to be connected. Not that bad if you do a scheduled shutdown of the phone.

 

[Forever Sleep]

It's kind of impossible to know for sure what would happen. You know your family best- so- you're best placed to know how they would react to that and what they would do.

In terms of police- I would think they would follow up on your lead. It may not lead to a prosecution- but at least this piece of shit would now be on ther radar.

I would have thought the police have ways of tracking down online stuff. It sounds as if they more or less confessed to something abusive there. Still- I don't know how these things are dealt with and what evidence they need. Plus, I can understand you not wanting to go through all of that.

I'm so sorry this happened to you. Some people just utterly disgust me. I agree- this piece of shit deserves some form of retribution.

 

[Not.Flugel]

I don't have much evidence.

Doesn't really matter, but if you do want to publish it to a newspaper (Bild would probably be funny but not credible), please remember to purge any connection to this site. What will follow is a throughly investigation of any way to trace this, especially electronically. You mentioned something of Germany and I can at least assure you that there will be action taken. We had a girl in our class that had sent nudes to her bf who sent it to his friends. The end of the story is that the cops broke down every door of the people he sent the pictures too, confiscated all electronic devices, and they were all charged with possession of CP. They will skim all your electronics and if they find this site, things will become much more difficult than they already are in Germany. And as stated above even if it doesn't lead to prosecution, having that on your record will be heavy and rightfully so.

 

[HopefulSleep]

Doesn't really matter, but if you do want to publish it to a newspaper (Bild would probably be funny but not credible), please remember to purge any connection to this site. What will follow is a throughly investigation of any way to trace this, especially electronically. You mentioned something of Germany and I can at least assure you that there will be action taken. We had a girl in our class that had sent nudes to her bf who sent it to his friends. The end of the story is that the cops broke down every door of the people he sent the pictures too, confiscated all electronic devices, and they were all charged with possession of CP. They will skim all your electronics and if they find this site, things will become much more difficult than they already are in Germany. And as stated above even if it doesn't lead to prosecution, having that on your record will be heavy and rightfully so.

I need evidence to proof anything and I don't really understand the post, the abuser I mean in particular don't share cp or possess it so what does this have to do with my situation?

Do you mean the girl was their age?
If yes how would the others get prosecuted or was it non consensually shared?

I use tor, it doesn't tore any data of this site on my pc and therefore I don't have to delete my account before I ctb.

 

[Vizzy]

I need evidence to proof anything and I don't really understand the post, the abuser I mean in particular don't share cp or possess it so what does this have to do with my situation?

Do you mean the girl was their age?
If yes how would the others get prosecuted or was it non consensually shared?

I use tor, it doesn't tore any data of this site on my pc and therefore I don't have to delete my account before I ctb.

Girl was underage that's what he mean, they were prosecuted for cp which is child prawn

When someone is underage it doesn't matter whether they are okay with or not, parents decision matters

Law says underage can't consent

 

[Not.Flugel]

I need evidence to proof anything and I don't really understand the post, the abuser I mean in particular don't share cp or possess it so what does this have to do with my situation?

I was just trying to point out a relatively minor case of what others would presume, a teenage girl sharing nudes with her teenage boyfriend let to a massive police action that resulted in cross county house raids and yes it was shared non-consensually. Also, if you are dead there will be no need for further evidence to launch an investigation. If you send your suicide note to some tabloid newspaper, and they publish an article about it, I presume there will be at least some form of outcry and therefore fuel to better investigate it. All in all I just wanted to say that it will probably get picked up as an investigation if you Ctb, even if it doesn't end in trial. It won't be pretty at all for your abuser because it will be left in the record. And you have to bring it forth to any job you apply to because it will be in your criminal record.

 

[HopefulSleep]

Also, if you are dead there will be no need for further evidence to launch an investigation.

How would they if it is an accusation or not?
You could theoretically write this for anyone you don't like when you ctb for another reason just to fuck their life up.

If you send your suicide note to some tabloid newspaper, and they publish an article about it, I presume there will be at least some form of outcry and therefore fuel to better investigate it.

How could I get my goodbye letter delivered to a newspaper if I ctb?

It won't be pretty at all for your abuser because it will be left in the record.

Not without evidence.

 

[Jezzibell]

Oh dear. What a horrible situation. I would post a signed affidavit in which I requested an investigation. I would send it to all the media outlets too. Or choose one. Init say that this traumatic experience has led to your ctb. Give them enough details to invoke public outrage. Write to the family of the wretch and make sure you copy this to the journalist.

There are companies that do posthumous messages

You can also contact a journo to cover the whole story. But nail this fucker, sometimes the media is the best way

 

[HopefulSleep]

Oh dear. What a horrible situation. I would post a signed affidavit in which I requested an investigation. I would send it to all the media outlets too. Or choose one. Init say that this traumatic experience has led to your ctb. Give them enough details to invoke public outrage. Write to the family of the wretch and make sure you copy this to the journalist.

There are companies that do posthumous messages

You can also contact a journo to cover the whole story. But nail this fucker, sometimes the media is the best way

How should I contact the media or request an investigation when I am dead?
Before my ctb would be dumb and I don't know if that works in a goodbye letter.

 

[Jezzibell]

How should I contact the media or request an investigation when I am dead?
Before my ctb would be dumb and I don't know if that works in a goodbye letter.

So, some journalists will cover the full story. There is a chap in USA but he is English. He doesn't stop ctb.

There are two series to this. He is an investigative reporter and has done loads of documentaries.

BBC Two - Louis Theroux: Altered States, Series 1, Choosing Death

Louis Theroux meets people preparing to take a lethal but legally prescribed overdose.

www.bbc.co.uk

This series shows you people whilst they ctb..

If he sees enough facts he'll spend time with you and not stop you.

He may want to interview the abuser but you can say only after you ctb.

Otherwise release the story after you go. Like I said, someone posted on here a site where you can write your notes and they will send them out at a later date.

Dies the abuser gave Family?

 

[Valky]

How should I contact the media or request an investigation when I am dead?
Before my ctb would be dumb and I don't know if that works in a goodbye letter.

You can set emails to be send at a certain time. So let's say you ctb tonight and the e-mail will only be send tomorrow at 8pm.

Since you are the main 'witness' in this case, it is gonna be harder to investigate and proof someone's wrongdoing to you. If you wanna make sure that legal measures will follow your suicide then you should make sure that your 'requests' falls into the right hands. Someone that will carry out your wish for you legally, whether that is someone you know or not. Public interest increases the rate for specific cases to be further investigated (just a tip)

 

[HopefulSleep]

So, some journalists will cover the full story. There is a chap in USA but he is English. He doesn't stop ctb.

There are two series to this. He is an investigative reporter and has done loads of documentaries.

I am in germany and also it seems risky.

Otherwise release the story after you go. Like I said, someone posted on here a site where you can write your notes and they will send them out at a later date.

But whom should I send it?

Dies the abuser gave Family?

I don't understand the sentence.

You can set emails to be send at a certain time. So let's say you ctb tonight and the e-mail will only be send tomorrow at 8pm.

Since you are the main 'witness' in this case, it is gonna be harder to investigate and proof someone's wrongdoing to you. If you wanna make sure that legal measures will follow your suicide then you should make sure that your 'requests' falls into the right hands. Someone that will carry out your wish for you legally, whether that is someone you know or not. Public interest increases the rate for specific cases to be further investigated (just a tip)

But who exactly should I send it to? Police? Newspaper?
If Newspaper which one?
And how should I make sure that they know this is my email?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

It would be too hard to prosecute someone after you're dead, as the people you accuse lose their right to confront their accuser (you).