If being ugly ONLY affected getting relationships, I'd be content with that

[Life sucks]

Life is unfair and cruel, this shouldn't be a war between sufferers and instead should be more about understanding each other. There is nothing to gain when people start putting themselves against each other, this is not a competition or a war. Of course, any side of any variable has their own problems, and it's more than what one could imagine.

One of the biggest problems is how people divide themselves into labels which causes group-based behavior rather than mutual understanding and how they think the two sides of everything are always are the negation of each other and mutually exclusive which is a fallacy.

Think about this and from a different way, like "it's painful to suffer from X" rather than "I belong to the group of X". In the former, it's easier to understand and connect to the problem, however, the latter is problematic because it includes a whole group. The groups would always have different people and conflicts within themselves, in this case for example(reddit is an exemplary of toxicity), some ugly people would hurt other ugly people (and the same could be applied for beautiful or any other thing), and if they went to other subreddits and locations, new attacks from other groups/labels would happen. Also its clear how outside of this forum, every group has their own "prolifers", problematic people, etc. And this forum is one of the rare spaces to talk about any problem with ctb in my mind without being attacked or judged.

I think this place should be safe and understanding for everyone, we are not competing or attacking. Everyone has their own problems and suffering and it's understandable. Remember that what caused the problems for us are this life and other humans outside of the forum and we came here to escape from all of that.


That being said, I'm sorry people are suffering because of this superficial life. Humans are superficially visual and its sad how a game of looks hurts people to unbelievable and extreme degrees. Humans forget that there are people suffering inside regardless of how they look.

 

[Foresight]

Nobody is attacking anyone. It's about the dismissive reaction whenever a particular point of suffering is brought up. If someone says life as a person of color is hard in the US because of xyz and someone else replies well hey, life as a white person is hard too then they're the one starting the comparison. Nobody said beautiful people don't suffer. This topic is not about that.

This topic should be about the particular hardships that come along with being ugly or feeling ugly. Don't come in with "pretty people suffer too!" We all know that, we're on a suicide forum. We're well aware. Someone created a topic to have a space for a particular hardship.

 

[JinZhin]

@LastFlowers Your comment made me realize how ignorant what I wrote came off as, I didn't intend to nitpick or diminish that unattractiveness is far worse than attractiveness is which is plain obvious (I'm sorry to repeat it), I completely misunderstood the point of this thread and I apologize for doing so.

It's sad how many outcomes in life depend on looks.

 

[serengeti]

I'm so ugly that my only option for suicide is to do it in the middle of nowhere so no one can find me till my advanced decay. Life is cool :0

 

[Foresight]

@JinZhin I found your original comment very nuanced and graceful.

The amount of work I've had to do to keep my self love intact has been nothing short of herculean. It can feel like the whole world devalues you. It's a struggle, it really is.

 

[Life sucks]

Nobody is attacking anyone. It's about the dismissive reaction whenever a particular point of suffering is brought up. If someone says life as a person of color is hard in the US because of xyz and someone else replies well hey, life as a white person is hard too then they're the one starting the comparison. Nobody said beautiful people don't suffer. This topic is not about that.

This topic should be about the particular hardships that come along with being ugly or feeling ugly. Don't come in with "pretty people suffer too!" We all know that, we're on a suicide. We're well aware. Someone created a topic to have a space for a particular hardship.

I understand what you mean, the post was general in description and not about a specific problem. Because the same pattern happens about any problem. And in this forum it has always happens for countless times without any improvement.

As for the dismissive part, I'll try to describe why it happens (I'm against comparison and this is a description only). People with "better traits" feel disconnected because other humans would envy them and invalidate their own problems and they are from a probabilistic minority. Sometimes it's hard to express these problems, for example, "I'm rich and people hate or envy me" or "I have a lot of friends and good family but I feel bad". Which creates a bottled and undirected negativity. Unfortunately, this is one of the many humans faults.

I think the forum should have guidelines instead of repeating the same patterns over and over. "Like, topics aren't a comparison and only meant for certain problems"
Or
"You can express your problems and you shouldn't compare yourself with others"

 

[unijow]

I feel that, but what really drives me mad is when people who "like" you try to convince you that you're not ugly. It's sickening.
I also hate job interviews, I feel like a disappointment to the boss in potential and to myself.

 

[Hater]

Being short is enough to destroy your life, even if you have a good-looking face. you gotta compensate with unlimited money.

 

[death137]

Being short is enough to destroy your life, even if you have a good-looking face. you gotta compensate with unlimited money.

Yeah money is important and having lots of it might make ppl tolerate you but I don't think it will be to the extent that it will largely compensate for your lack of height or face. Your looks is more important than any amount of money in how ppl view you.

 

[whatevs]

Yeah money is important and having lots of it might make ppl tolerate you but I don't think it will be to the extent that it will largely compensate for your lack of height or face. Your looks is more important than any amount of money in how ppl view you.

I disagree, Status and Personality are more important than Physical Appearance. Particularly for females they will be attracted to succesful and famous individuals regardless of their looks. Physical Appearance is important and has an effect in all relationships, not just sexual, but your Social Standing/Status and Personality determine more of your life than looks.

In fact, all the fugly people that CTB are always, always lacking in the Status and Personality departments. It´s what actually defines a loser, not just being ugly but being unable to overcome it. Not trying to attack anyone, I am a 30 year old virgin so you can imagine whether I consider myself a loser or not. I just want all of us to be aware of how looks are less important than psychology by a large margin.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

I disagree, Status and Personality are more important than Physical Appearance. Particularly for females they will be attracted to succesful and famous individuals regardless of their looks. Physical Appearance is important and has an effect in all relationships, not just sexual, but your Social Standing/Status and Personality determine more of your life than looks.

I have to agree for men especially social status and personality is important. However for woman looks are very important

 

[whatevs]

I have to agree for men especially social status and personality is important. However for woman looks are very important

Yeah, for me appearance in women is important but as you age it becomes less crucial, and an interesting conversation or sense of humor becomes more relevant.
I mean, people get together to have offspring so you have to gauge fertility and genes in your partner using physical atractiveness but you can´t fuck all day long, at the end of the day your personality and occupation will influence the relationship at least as much as whether the other person makes you horny.

 

[death137]

I disagree, Status and Personality are more important than Physical Appearance. Particularly for females they will be attracted to succesful and famous individuals regardless of their looks. Physical Appearance is important and has an effect in all relationships, not just sexual, but your Social Standing/Status and Personality determine more of your life than looks.

In fact, all the fugly people that CTB are always, always lacking in the Status and Personality departments. It´s what actually defines a loser, not just being ugly but being unable to overcome it. Not trying to attack anyone, I am a 30 year old virgin so you can imagine whether I consider myself a loser or not. I just want all of us to be aware of how looks are less important than psychology by a large margin.

Romantic attraction is based on looks both for men and women. Personality only matters if you pass the looks criteria. Yes ugly men who have status or/and money can attract some women but they won't be loved. Looks is by far the most important thing when it comes to attraction.

By the way looks play a major role in shaping our personality. It isn't the only factor but even most of the other factors are something out of our control.

The things I said is from general perspective. There are exceptional cases but they are very rare.

 

[Ticket 2 Heaven]

I'm so ugly that when I take my N and the authorities come get my body nobody will wonder why I did it.

This

 

[motel rooms]

It's about the dismissive reaction whenever a particular point of suffering is brought up. If someone says life as a person of color is hard in the US because of xyz and someone else replies well hey, life as a white person is hard too then they're the one starting the comparison. Nobody said beautiful people don't suffer.

I couldn't agree more. I've always suffered more than the average person although I'm considered handsome, but it's unnecessary to point that out in this type of thread unless someone decides to make the idiotic claim that it's impossible for good-looking folks to be genuinely suicidal.

 

[callme]

Are there people of no color?

 

[Someone123]

I know the struggle. I'm sorry you're suffering in pain. Currently there seems to be no cure

I do know a girl who has severe acne & acne scarring but she covers it with some very strong special kind of makeup every day and this has made a huge difference for her, she is hapy and has a long-term boyfriend. There is some makeup out there that can make a huge difference with this.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

Tbh it's really a losing hand in my opinion for me , for myself the moment this cursed skin disease ruined my life and caused me bullying/abuse then to be taken advantage of by a POS guy that preyed on my low self esteem, naivety causing me more trauma.

I think you're beautiful

 

[callme]

I do know a girl who has severe acne & acne scarring but she covers it with some very strong special kind of makeup every day and this has made a huge difference for her, she is hapy and has a long-term boyfriend. There is some makeup out there that can make a huge difference with this.

Is that long term boyfriend how she pays for expensive makeup?

 

[Le_Dauphin]

I found it on reddit

I'm surprised no one told you to "just take a bath" and "brush your teeth" and see "how different people would treat you".

People who aren't ugly simply don't get it! When a person REALLY is ugly, he/she may be constantly perfumed, dressed up and all else, whenever other people lay their eyes on them, in their BRAINS, the ugly person literally stinks. They usually don't even get close enough to the ugly person to see if they're right or wrong, they just assume it and proceed to act accordingly. I'll soon be out of this hell, to a place where I can literally putrefy, but in peace.

Whenever I see handsome people trying to calm ugly people or even compare their ordeal with ours, I can't help feeling enraged!
It's like being poor and having to listen to a billionaire compalining that his life is a "true nightmare" because his immense fortune may attract robbers.
Yes, attractive people can undergo abuse and a whole lot of things, but they're also immune to the sheer scorn society directs specifically to ugly people, and can live to have a relationship, a family, a meaningful life. Every single problem in life that apparently has nothing to do with appearance, that has to be faced by an attractive person would be terribly worse if that person happened to be ugly. With the single exception of sexual abuse. Plus, another thing I never see attractive people do, in life or in this site, is to admit how they abuse ugly people financially, many times, to the point of ruin. The sense of entitlement of many of those people...

 

[Shu]

im not reading all of that

LOL

 

[RegretedFeeling]

im not reading all of that

His last words? Provoked?