I’d say, SS w/o methods = all recovery section

[little helpers]

unpopular opinion? maybe?

feels to me that at least mentally, to me, myself, every section is just recovery section now. think about it. talking 'bout suicidality is what you'd ideally do in therapy. offtopic section is peer-support (like "say one word how you feeling"), killing time/buying time (like counting game), and forming connections (like the art thread). all of these are recovery things.

now I must make myself clear. I like these things. every one of them. I enjoy that. and we do need these things regardless of our buses coming or not. and one thing that makes SS great is y'all lovely people here. without you it'd be nothing. every one of you. and it's a bit too good having just that. but never good enough.

I'm not complaining 'bout shit. if I have the time and energy to babble I better use them wisely and do something. 'cept I'm not in a situation where I can. I'd participate a lil bit if someone gets it going. or if we find a way where we can each put in however little effort, and make shit happen.

you'd prolly think I'm radicalizing this place by now. and my answer is: so what? this time it's *your* interest at stake and you already got nothing to lose on this one. I'm speaking from my heart, I promise.

so tell me what y'all think. if/what you'd like to do about it. and how. I would really, really appreciate that.

 

[9BBN]

Maybe it's harder to see the difference if you're newer here. But basically support ≠ recovery, because here we support you no matter your decision, as long as it's not impulsive. I don't consider peer-support, buying time, and forming connections to be "recovery things" per se. They empower you no matter your decision.

 

[chocolatebar]

I'd say it's not exactly the same. My previous therapists would give me some weird stares when I mentioned suicide and others used to give me the standard pro-life discourses. At least I'm free from discomfort around here

 

[PrincessInWhite]

I'm literally beside myself with distress at this.

 

[motel rooms]

I feel sorry for the future members.

 

[little helpers]

I feel sorry for the future members.

except we *are* the future members. you already did that, went to "future you", from the time you commented, to now, time you read my reply. it's not anything other than a fact. it just is.

 

[motel rooms]

except we *are* the future members. you already did that, went to "future you", from the time you commented, to now, time you read my reply.

Yeah, but I'm not in search of a method anymore.

 

[summers]

Yeah, but I'm not in search of a method anymore.

I'm glad we're not going to get the bullshit freeze/starve/infection/drown/etc talk here anymore. There are five (maybe six) methods that work, and they can all easily be found on here or google.

Quite honestly, I was ready to ignore everyone who asked about partial. So many threads on that stupid topic.

 

[little helpers]

I'm glad we're not going to get the bullshit freeze/starve/infection/drown/etc talk here anymore. There are five (maybe six) methods that work, and they can all easily be found on here or google.

Quite honestly, I was ready to ignore everyone who asked about partial. So many threads on that stupid topic.

I was nearly going to ask you if you wanna go into detail on why you would decline to give advice on partial, which I suppose is about success rate, before I got reminded that it's "no method-talk" now. smh.

we can all try Covid though. that is zero BS *and* isn't discussing methods. /s

 

[Tomoko]

I made sure to locally save an archive of my preferred method. I am used to things I love dying. Yeah, it feels like a shell of its former self for now. I completely understand why they did it. I fucking hate virtue signaling corporations.

 

[summers]

I was nearly going to ask you if you wanna go into detail on why you would decline to give advice on partial, which I suppose is about success rate, before I got reminded that it's "no method-talk" now. smh.

we can all try Covid though. that is zero BS *and* isn't discussing methods. /s

Sent you a chat message.

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

All of the method threads still exist in the archived forum. You can still find them.

I honestly think people are freaking out too much. The information is still there.

 

[LingeringUnreal]

A lot of actual discussion seems to be moving to personal messages from what I can tell of my short time here which I guess is kind of a solution, but it's much harder to archive a million different interpersonal discussions later vs one thread. Definitely feels like a different vibe though.

 

[little helpers]

All of the method threads still exist in the archived forum. You can still find them.

I honestly think people are freaking out too much. The information is still there.

I know that. saved an entire thread to my notes. but thanks for telling everyone else.

I'm not losing my shit becuz I haven't secured these info. I just have a bad gut feeling knowing this is not where I can be 100% myself anymore. a mental block. also sad for the possible harm reduction practices we could've been able to do in the future with new members. but yeah, I should explore what that means to me, to others, and comment back later.

Definitely feels like a different vibe though.

^ this.

and I agree with @Insomniac on another thread that we are just steering ourselves where government wants to. eventually we'd get there. won't be long, even. and now they've made it all appear "voluntary" on the surface.

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

Well yeah the thing is I'd like to talk about ****** *******, as well as of course **** to help stop the puking but I get it. I'm sure future generations won't miss hearing about talk of taking ****** ******* with **** after ******* for around 8 *****, and maybe even just in case tying a ***** under a tree near Beachy ****.

 

[little helpers]

Well yeah the thing is I'd like to talk about ****** *******, as well as of course **** to help stop the puking but I get it. I'm sure future generations won't miss hearing about talk of taking ****** ******* with **** after ******* for around 8 *****, and maybe even just in case tying a ***** under a tree near Beachy ****.

you forgot to show their banned profile. cuz you don't know that just yet. you aren't an alien traveling back to time. I don't like that. want Earth be taken over by them, not you. /s

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

The God-Emperor sorted it out just now. People are really jumpy.

 

[little helpers]

The God-Emperor sorted it out just now. People are really jumpy.

thanks for informing me!! gonna check it out in a sec!

wait. didn't find anyone going by that handle. maybe I misinterpreted your message. PM/comment me if you wanna explain. will appreciate that.

Edit: your reaction at the other post, the "informative", gawd I really laughed. are you also an automatic jokes machine? let's stand besides one another and run a sarcasm ATM! /s

 

[Bleak]

Sanctioned suicide started out as a forum where it was not allowed to discuss methods. I don't understand why people think the site is so different or worthless without method talk.

 

[little helpers]

Sanctioned suicide started out as a forum where it was not allowed to discuss methods. I don't understand why people think the site is so different or worthless without method talk.

cuz freedom feels good. and we deserve that.

'cept I find "freedom" too sarcastic a word. way too ironic.

 

[dustyfurcollector]

PARTIAL?! Why on earth would someone PARTIALLY?! catch the bus?! How do you do that? Why would you do that?

Surely I'm totally misunderstanding this

 

[Ta555]

PARTIAL?! Why on earth would someone PARTIALLY?! catch the bus?! How do you do that? Why would you do that?

Surely I'm totally misunderstanding this

Uh sorry not sure if this is sarcasm or not but partial refers to a method. Think Robin Williams.

 

[dustyfurcollector]

Uh sorry not sure if this is sarcasm or not but partial refers to a method. Think Robin Williams.

Ooooh. I totally didn't have hanging on my mind even I read that. Sorry. I'm with you now. Sorry to have bothered.

 

[Ta555]

Ooooh. I totally didn't have hanging on my mind even I read that. Sorry. I'm with you now. Sorry to have bothered.

No need to be sorry. It's confusing if you're not familiar with the terminology here!

 

[Lostkitten1]

That's a classic example of why methods should be allowed. Typical of the media to misinterpret SS and its mission, anything for a story. It's interesting that when people try to stop the media doing something they plead freedom of speech and yet we're quietly trying to help people in this community, who are often in very dark places, and we can't play the freedom of speech card ourselves. All they're going to achieve is pushing method talk into DMs or other places, which isn't as safe in the long term. Vulnerable people are going to get exploited, manipulated etc, and that's just fine by the media, but helping ourselves when nobody else even talks about these things? Oh no, that's wrong

 

[little helpers]

All they're going to achieve is pushing method talk into DMs or other places, which isn't as safe in the long term.

^ this. 100000% this.

I'm a huge harm reduction advocate. okay I been one, I was one. history *and* present taught us that prohibition never works. on anything. all it does is mass incarceration and skyrocketing, skyscrapers-high fatal ODs.

that one is about drugs. people seek out drugs despite running legal risks cuz they truly have a need. and we all commiting "illicit suicides" here, same thing. I see SS as a harm reduction site in nature. like when there's info on how to shoot up they're not spreading "immorality", but simply becuz if you have to, they are begging you to do it safely.

I'm all for decriminalization. decriminalize drug use and drug users, addiction and addicts, skin color and BIPOC lives, suicidality and suicdees.

if we ain't being seen as criminals, why do we have to take down methods? the fact we have to confront is we are being pursued and criminalized. and it doesn't help that we start acting like one. taking down methods is pleading guilty.

I'm not saying we need an uprising against mods. that's fucking ignorant when the mods are one of us and the ones who are trying to keep us safe. but I don't see how that's gonna get us to real safety. Bobby can take over the heat for Santos, but then Helen got into trouble and just snitched. that's a Panic in Needle Park reference. but that's also reality.

 

[TriflingExistence]

I feel sorry for the future members.

What's ironic is, I found this place through that New York Post article. Even bad publicity is good publicity. I had no idea this place existed, and knowing the old archives with method talk still in them brings me comfort to know I can go read through them. Hopefully us new members can make do with what we have. I'm incredibly thankful to have stumbled upon this place, even if things have changed a bit.

 

[*Psyche*]

What's ironic is, I found this place through that New York Post article. Even bad publicity is good publicity. I had no idea this place existed, and knowing the old archives with method talk still in them brings me comfort to know I can go read through them. Hopefully us new members can make do with what we have. I'm incredibly thankful to have stumbled upon this place, even if things have changed a bit.

Exactly the same for me! I've been days away from ctb... had everything but one aspect taken care of. I still have many days I want to end my existence, but I don't know for a fact that I'll ever try to ctb again.
When I found this place, I finally felt a sense of peace & relief. I felt like I could be free to be my true self without receiving platitudes from others (strangers or family/friends) who don't get me. I didn't feel the need to censor myself because someone might jump straight into panic mode when I was talking about ctb in a matter-of-fact type of way.
I want to be able to be supportive of others in their time(s) of need, whether that be just a shoulder to cry on, or wishing someone peace on their journey. We all need people who can accept us & care about us despite our different ways of thinking & in difficult times.
I'm unsure of what to be afraid, as the legalities of this situation, according to US statutes, seem pretty straightforward & in our favor. However, one must understand & interpret them thusly. IMO, we have nothing to be afraid of, so long as there is no coercion of members to ctb. That is the ONLY caveat.
Be that as it may, I'm glad to be here & will continue to be grateful for this site & its members. In a way, I count all my fellow pro-choosers among my friends, now. I've no one else I can be THIS honest with & I would only divulge such secrets about myself to friends.
Thank you & peace to you all ❤

 

[Lostkitten1]

I'm not saying we need an uprising against mods

No, definitely not. I understand the mods are trying to act in the best interests of this community, I wouldn't want to be them right now. That isn't the answer. It should be noted that censoring the community isn't a long term answer either, but for now is a necessary evil to protect us from the long and often unjust arm of the US (and others) legal systems, and the even longer and even more unjust arm of the associated press. Sticking together, supporting each other and especially the mods is the best thing we as a community can do right now, just as we always have done. If everyone in the wider world did that, there wouldn't be as much a need for places like this, but as the wider world seems not to care we will have to do it ourselves.

@Mods, maybe a prominent scam warning/reporting thread might be a good idea if there isn't one already.

 

[Meditation guide]

I see a lot of new members who joined on Dec. 14. Sometimes what seems like a setback is a blessing in disguise. There are so many people who need this site and the Times article helped them find it.