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Richard Langford

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we won't give a shit for this shitty planet and people
I'm very sorry for you and what's happened to you that's brought you to this conclusion.
 
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Same, I'm kinda wishing for a meteor to hit the earth.
 
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kvorumese

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So killing billions on a point of principle is fine? And killing is fine (in colossal numbers) if they aren't aware they're being killed or there's anyone to take you to task afterwards? Really?? You'd have no qualms whatsoever making that decision for everyone? Say the perfectly happy married couple who live just up the road?
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Yeah, for me it is fine. For me there is a difference between killing a group of people and all people.
If I kill a group of people, I am a serial murderer and I should be thrown in jail for life, maybe get my balls chopped off. If I kill all people on the planet, then there will be nobody to lament the outcome.
If I kill a group of people, I deal damage to those who loved and cared for these people. If I kill all people on the planet, I don't deal damage to anybody, except for I guess the people's pets.
If I kill a hundred people, I set back potentially thousands of people mentally. If I kill everybody overall, I set the planet forward, because now mother nature can sprout again, without any destruction caused by humans.
Feel free to disagree with me, but these questions of yours will get the same answers from me, so there's really no point.
 
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Sorry, just a heads up, if you want me to see your message in due time, please hit reply/quote so I can see the notification
Yeah, for me it is fine. For me there is a difference between killing a group of people and all people.
If I kill a group of people, I am a serial murderer and I should be thrown in jail for life, maybe get my balls chopped off. If I kill all people on the planet, then there will be nobody to lament the outcome.
If I kill a group of people, I deal damage to those who loved and cared for these people. If I kill all people on the planet, I don't deal damage to anybody, except for I guess the people's pets.
If I kill a hundred people, I set back potentially thousands of people mentally. If I kill everybody overall, I set the planet forward, because now mother nature can sprout again, without any destruction caused by humans.
Feel free to disagree with me, but these questions of yours will get the same answers from me, so there's really no point.
So worldwide mass genocide is absolutely fine in your book whatever way you want to dress it up?


And if you're unhappy and want to die, everyone is unhappy (or should be?) and should die? There's absolutely no thought that, that might not be the case for many if not most?
 
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I'm very sorry for you and what's happened to you that's brought you to this conclusion.
the world is mostly a shit hole always has been always will be over 50 percent of the population live on less than 5.50usd per day thats 2000 usd per year
 
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kvorumese

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So worldwide mass genocide is absolutely fine in your book whatever way you want to dress it up?


And if you're unhappy and want to die, everyone is unhappy (or should be?) and should die? There's absolutely no thought that, that might not be the case for many if not most?
You got it!
 
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Richard Langford

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the world is mostly a shit hole always has been always will be over 50 percent of the population live on less than 5.50usd per day thats 2000 usd per year
So let's kill everyone as opposed to trying to remedy that?
You got it!
I had it a while ago. I'm just amazed anyone can be that selfish.
 
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kvorumese

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Unfortunately I have.
I just want to chime in and remind you that this is a website for suicidal people, people who are losing or have lost all hope, and as a result, a website where a decently sized portion of all members is mentally ill &/ unstable. I do not know much (anything) about you, but you should understand that thinking rationally about some things in discussions is not always going to work.
I want to kill myself because of the hatred I harbour for this world and society. I would not mind at all if complete destruction of it ensued. We have different outlooks on this world and so we could never agree on such a topic.
I am sorry if I offended you in any way, shape or form during this discussion, but I hope I provided enough reasoning for you to see why I think the way I think.
 
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Richard Langford

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I just want to chime in and remind you that this is a website for suicidal people, people who are losing or have lost all hope, and as a result, a website where a decently sized portion of all members is mentally ill &/ unstable. I do not know much (anything) about you, but you should understand that thinking rationally about some things in discussions is not always going to work.
I want to kill myself because of the hatred I harbour for this world and society. I would not mind at all if complete destruction of it ensued. We have different outlooks on this world and so we could never agree on such a topic.
I am sorry if I offended you in any way, shape or form during this discussion, but I hope I provided enough reasoning for you to see why I think the way I think.
Anyone who's (genuinely) here isn't a happy soul, but I would hope the overwhelming majority don't wish for world destruction simultaneously alongside their own.

Disappointed more than offended and wondering what's happened to you to make you sadly think that way.
 
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So let's kill everyone as opposed to trying to remedy that?
there is no remedy for a shit hole planet expect going out into space to bring resource back
the planet is set to completely run out of resource with 191 years

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Richard Langford

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there is no remedy for a shit hole planet expect going out into space to bring resource back
the planet is set to completely run out of resource with 191 years

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1. Essential Elements & Minerals

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  • Helium (🎈) – Used in medical, scientific, and industrial applications; non-renewable and escapes into space when released.
  • Rare Earth Elements (🪨) – Crucial for electronics, batteries, and renewable energy tech (e.g., neodymium, dysprosium).
  • Lithium (🔋) – Essential for batteries in electric vehicles and electronics, with limited high-quality reserves.
  • Indium (📱) – Used in touchscreens, solar panels, and semiconductors; depletion possible within a century.
  • Platinum & Palladium (⛏️) – Used in catalytic converters, fuel cells, and jewelry, with limited global supply.

2. Energy Resources

  • Oil (⛽) – Estimated to run out in 50-150 years depending on extraction rates.
  • Natural Gas (🔥) – Likely depleted in 100-200 years if consumption continues.
  • Coal (🏭) – Could last slightly longer, but its use may decline due to environmental concerns.

3. Agricultural & Biological Resources

  • Freshwater (💧) – Over-extraction, pollution, and climate change threaten global supply.
  • Topsoil (🌱) – Erosion and intensive farming could deplete fertile soil within 50-100 years.
  • Fish Stocks (🐟) – Overfishing may collapse marine ecosystems, with some species already nearing extinction.
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Let's not pretend you're wishing the destruction of the Human Race simultaneously with your own for the 'good of the planet'.
 
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Selfishness at its best
What good would it do you to wipe out all the people?
Most of them are very happy and life is the only thing they have.
Hatred and envy have blinded you
there is no remedy for a shit hole planet expect going out into space to bring resource back
the planet is set to completely run out of resource with 191 years

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1. Essential Elements & Minerals

  • Phosphorus (🧪) – Needed for fertilizers; depletion could cause a food crisis.
  • Helium (🎈) – Used in medical, scientific, and industrial applications; non-renewable and escapes into space when released.
  • Rare Earth Elements (🪨) – Crucial for electronics, batteries, and renewable energy tech (e.g., neodymium, dysprosium).
  • Lithium (🔋) – Essential for batteries in electric vehicles and electronics, with limited high-quality reserves.
  • Indium (📱) – Used in touchscreens, solar panels, and semiconductors; depletion possible within a century.
  • Platinum & Palladium (⛏️) – Used in catalytic converters, fuel cells, and jewelry, with limited global supply.

2. Energy Resources

  • Oil (⛽) – Estimated to run out in 50-150 years depending on extraction rates.
  • Natural Gas (🔥) – Likely depleted in 100-200 years if consumption continues.
  • Coal (🏭) – Could last slightly longer, but its use may decline due to environmental concerns.

3. Agricultural & Biological Resources

  • Freshwater (💧) – Over-extraction, pollution, and climate change threaten global supply.
  • Topsoil (🌱) – Erosion and intensive farming could deplete fertile soil within 50-100 years.
  • Fish Stocks (🐟) – Overfishing may collapse marine ecosystems, with some species already nearing extinction.
  • Forests (🌲) – Deforestation for agriculture, logging, and urbanization could leave few untouched forests.
  • Biodiversity (🦏) – Many animal and plant species could be extinct due to habitat destruction and climate change.

4. Industrial & Material Resources

  • Sand (🏖️) – Essential for construction (concrete, glass), but overuse is causing shortages.
  • Copper (⚡) – Heavily used in electrical wiring and electronics; recycling helps but new deposits are harder to find.
  • Nickel (🔩) – Important for stainless steel and batteries; demand is increasing.
  • Cobalt (🔋) – Needed for batteries, primarily sourced from conflict-prone areas.

5. Atmospheric & Ecological Changes

  • Oxygen Levels (🫁) – Deforestation and ocean degradation could reduce oxygen-producing ecosystems.
  • Ozone Layer (☀️) – Partially recovering, but could be damaged again by pollutants.
"The solution to fix the planet is to destroy it."
 
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Selfishness at its best
What good would it do you to wipe out all the people?
Most of them are very happy and life is the only thing they have.
Hatred and envy have blinded you
+1

i'm a little too tired for this, but don't a lot of discussions on this forum center around the importance of bodily autonomy? why make this decision (genocide on a global scale) for people, for "their sake"? don't pro-lifers put us in wards, involuntarily, for "our own sake"?
 
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exactly do you really think there are more happy animals then there are miserable one or is the opposite true

to end the never ending cycle of misery
We were talking about human beings, not animals.
Most of the human beings I know do not live in misery, they are very happy.
Why would you say that an animal (in its natural state) is miserable?
It is not even aware of its existence, it just enjoys walking around and fulfilling its needs.
Those in the food industry are another matter.
The domestic ones on the other hand have a great time, my dog spends all day with his belly pointing to the sun, it looks like his face has a smile on it
I understand that your comments point to a deeper purpose, I could also open my eyes and contemplate that the world is absurd, but that does not justify that you want to extinguish it completely
 
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We were talking about human beings, not animals.
Most of the human beings I know do not live in misery, they are very happy.
Why would you say that an animal (in its natural state) is miserable?
It is not even aware of its existence, it just enjoys walking around and fulfilling its needs.
Those in the food industry are another matter.
The domestic ones on the other hand have a great time, my dog spends all day with his belly pointing to the sun, it looks like his face has a smile on it
I understand that your comments point to a deeper purpose, I could also open my eyes and contemplate that the world is absurd, but that does not justify that you want to extinguish it completely
That's a valid perspective, and I get why my view might seem extreme to you. I don't deny that happiness exists—people laugh, love, and find meaning in their lives. Animals, especially well-cared-for pets, can seem content too.

But my stance comes from looking at the bigger picture: suffering is constant, unavoidable, and often outweighs pleasure. Even if someone is happy most of the time, they still face illness, aging, loss, and ultimately death. The same goes for animals—wild ones live in constant danger, and even those that appear carefree still have biological needs that keep them in a cycle of seeking, struggling, and sometimes failing.

That doesn't mean I expect everyone to want to "extinguish" the world. Many people accept suffering as part of life and find ways to cope. Some, like you, focus on the happiness that exists. I just personally can't ignore how much pain is woven into existence itself. To me, non-existence is the only true escape from suffering.
We were talking about human beings, not animals.
we are animals and since our survival depends on these animals it's important to acknowledge there suffering to and not just say fuck the animals we are happy who cares about them
 
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That's a valid perspective, and I get why my view might seem extreme to you. I don't deny that happiness exists—people laugh, love, and find meaning in their lives. Animals, especially well-cared-for pets, can seem content too.

But my stance comes from looking at the bigger picture: suffering is constant, unavoidable, and often outweighs pleasure. Even if someone is happy most of the time, they still face illness, aging, loss, and ultimately death. The same goes for animals—wild ones live in constant danger, and even those that appear carefree still have biological needs that keep them in a cycle of seeking, struggling, and sometimes failing.

That doesn't mean I expect everyone to want to "extinguish" the world. Many people accept suffering as part of life and find ways to cope. Some, like you, focus on the happiness that exists. I just personally can't ignore how much pain is woven into existence itself. To me, non-existence is the only true escape from suffering.

we are animals and since our survival depends on these animals it's important to acknowledge there suffering to and not just say fuck the animals we are happy who cares about them
You're trying to make a bigger picture argument but when I equated it to ctb by stepping in front of a car and the possible deadly and traumatic impact on the driver and/or passengers you said "who gives a shit". That's your real sentiment. It's the S word again however much you want to dress it up.
 
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Darkover

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You're trying to make a bigger picture argument
yeah the bigger picture is simply that there is more suffering than happiness on this planet when including everything and not just human beings

that's Selfishness at its best to continue existence for the sake of few lives at the cost of most lives
Yeah, when you take the perspective of all sentient beings, the scale of suffering outweighs the happiness by a vast margin. Predation, starvation, disease, and countless forms of suffering are constant realities for most living creatures. Even humans, who have advanced technology and medicine, still experience immense suffering—physical, emotional, and psychological.

Yet, people tend to focus on their own personal joys or the happiness of a select few rather than the overall balance of well-being versus suffering. They justify existence because some individuals or groups have good lives, even if the majority endure pain and struggle.

It does seem selfish, or at least deeply biased, to argue for the continuation of life when the cost is so much suffering. But most people don't think about life on that scale—they see their own experience or their immediate circle and assume that justifies everything.
 
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yeah the bigger picture is simply that there is more suffering than happiness on this planet when including everything and not just human beings

that's Selfishness at its best to continue existence for the sake of few lives at the cost of most lives
Yeah, when you take the perspective of all sentient beings, the scale of suffering outweighs the happiness by a vast margin. Predation, starvation, disease, and countless forms of suffering are constant realities for most living creatures. Even humans, who have advanced technology and medicine, still experience immense suffering—physical, emotional, and psychological.

Yet, people tend to focus on their own personal joys or the happiness of a select few rather than the overall balance of well-being versus suffering. They justify existence because some individuals or groups have good lives, even if the majority endure pain and struggle.

It does seem selfish, or at least deeply biased, to argue for the continuation of life when the cost is so much suffering. But most people don't think about life on that scale—they see their own experience or their immediate circle and assume that justifies everything.
But YOU couldn't care less about someone driving along and your step in front of them causing your own death but potentially also their's too. That's your true sentiment. How did you put it... "who gives a shit"?

You're trying to dress it up into 'bigger pictures' while the reality is you just don't give a shit as long as you get what you want. As someone else put it, its "selfishness at its best....hatred and envy". It most certainly is.
 
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But YOU couldn't care less about someone driving along and your step in front of them causing your own death but potentially also their's too. That's your true sentiment. How did you put it... "who gives a shit"?

You're trying to dress it up into 'bigger pictures' while the reality is you just don't give a shit as long as you get what you want. As someone else put it, its "selfishness at its best....hatred and envy". It most certainly is.
If our friend contradicts himself, he says the world is total shit and at the same time shows us to be worse than that.
His philosophy of absurdity has a point but it is greatly twisted by his hatred and personal experiences.
I know people who are aware of the absurdity of this world and what they did was to laugh and take life not at all seriously, doing whatever they please.
Now when you harm third parties based on your personal experience and beliefs you don't stop being the same shit you complain about.
 
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You'd be killing people who are entirely happy with their existence (possibly for the next 90+ years) because you're not. It's the S word. Selfish. Fine you're unhappy. Fine you want to ctb. Don't drag perfectly happy people into your unhappiness and the like. Make decisions for yourself. Not for people that have absolutely nothing to do with you.
The thing is...
Happy people deserve their happiness, sure, but how long will they realize it's only temporary? This world is a damn mess, if happy people equally feel alone most days, and I'm sure they are thinking about it but don't say it enough... They feel so alone and perhaps feel inside it would be best, but then, it's just a thought until it collides again with their different days, but most people in this world are aware and admit that this world is full of issues, and even if they may not agree with it likely being destroyed, I can truly believe they would thank us for its removal, if it were only possible, because everyone is both inherently selfish and somewhat stubborn to rationality and the true facts of nature, yet no one says a thing about it, because it's quite embarrassing to, but literally, everyone would love company and if we could relate to the truth as it was than to hide it, I do think they'd appreciate it when it would reset and we all forget how terrible this world was... Everyone's aware, they just lie to themselves, for some reason... I don't know why
 
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The thing is...
Happy people deserve their happiness, sure, but how long will they realize it's only temporary? This world is a damn mess, if happy people equally feel alone most days, and I'm sure they are thinking about it but don't say it enough... They feel so alone and perhaps feel inside it would be best, but then, it's just a thought until it collides again with their different days, but most people in this world are aware and admit that this world is full of issues, and even if they may not agree with it likely being destroyed, I can truly believe they would thank us for its removal, if it were only possible, because everyone is both inherently selfish and somewhat stubborn to rationality and the true facts of nature, yet no one says a thing about it, because it's quite embarrassing to, but literally, everyone would love company and if we could relate to the truth as it was than to hide it, I do think they'd appreciate it when it would reset and we all forget how terrible this world was... Everyone's aware, they just lie to themselves, for some reason... I don't know why
I don't know how long they'll be happy. Maybe a short time, maybe forever or possibly the majority of their lives. Notwithstanding that, you consider YOU have the right to determine their continued existence for them? And you don't believe that your making that decision is directly influenced by the personal circumstances that brought you here and as another said a part and parcel consequent inability to think rationally?
 
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Anyone who's (genuinely) here isn't a happy soul, but I would hope the overwhelming majority don't wish for world destruction simultaneously alongside their own.

Disappointed more than offended and wondering what's happened to you to make you sadly think that way.
A lot of people here are just edgy, immature, and only capable of black and white thinking.
 
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I don't know how long they'll be happy. Maybe a short time, maybe forever or possibly the majority of their lives. Notwithstanding that, you consider YOU have the right to determine their continued existence for them? And you don't believe that your making that decision is directly influenced by the personal circumstances that brought you here and as another said a part and parcel consequent inability to think rationally?
Okay, then look at this point then — and this isn't all about me but the real pain on when the curtains drop, because realistically, no one truly cares about anyone and anyone can be endangered, even if you are rich or middle class...

"When the government leads a system on you — good or bad that is a reflection on you, do you choose it? Do you restrict its uses with your privilege? How would you go about abandoning it? Even if you moved, can you truly escape it? Especially when that very system will hurt you and your family? You can not hide... They won't let you hide, and... Would they care? No, because you grew up more aware tfrom your experiences, knowing they don't, and you assimilate for years, but loose yourself, because you did everything, yet what would've happened if someone had seen you and stopped it together? They didn't, because they avoided it, like you did, and that's when you become frightened... So frieghtened realizing this, you become mute, and terrified, and you can't tell anyone... You wished it ended a long time ago, as you recognized you could not trust anyone this entire time, and your world became shattered, and you woke up, and they still blame you... They didn't find out, or they don't recognize it... However, that's the act of reality... You leave it, but what about your child who will equally be in this? You leave her, but then...".

Here's another: "You realized you will break someone's life and memories of you... It is forever tainted... So what do you do with that guilt? Do you still do it, or do you believe the system or those around you can help you now? You are under a tightrope... Humans deal with that everyday, and recognizing everything is never-ending with these problems... How would you truly realistically go about it? Pretend it's alright? Would you even do that? What about those who have suffered? Just ignore them or do what you been told to help them? Or what about giving them mercy, that was removed from them to have from manipulation brought by those who ere affected by the lies they've been told? That's what you do... You give mercy to those who want peace, but what about those who are undeciding of that yet will still repeat the cycle of hurt....?"

That's your answer... Like, Shiki, the anime, you remove the problem, as everyone will suffer... There's no true end. Everyone will suffer no matter what when it's time. It's always been this way, and either someone wins, or someone doesn't. No one truly does, as you truly loose yourself in the process
 
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A lot of people here are just edgy, immature, and only capable of black and white thinking.
Sadly, after reading the post directly above that is only too clear.
 
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whitetaildeer

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Aug 5, 2024
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I don't know how long they'll be happy. Maybe a short time, maybe forever or possibly the majority of their lives. Notwithstanding that, you consider YOU have the right to determine their continued existence for them? And you don't believe that your making that decision is directly influenced by the personal circumstances that brought you here and as another said a part and parcel consequent inability to think rationally?
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kind of disturbing to see the "they won't complain; non-existence is literally nothing" sentiments here. because while it's true there's nothing in nonexistence, we're talking about billions of lives, most of which aren't like us and don't want to die. back to the button ("press the button and the whole world disappears") analogy: you're erasing billions of people, all of which had ambitions, lives, things they loved, memories... all of it just gone, without them ever knowing, without their knowledge or consent. i find this horrifying.
 
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kitia973

kitia973

我亦定山河
Dec 24, 2024
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Nobody consented to being born and existing in this hellhole. At this point I would just want to whole world to cease to exist.
 
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WhiteRabbit

WhiteRabbit

I'm late, i'm late. For a very important date.
Feb 12, 2019
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+1

kind of disturbing to see the "they won't complain; non-existence is literally nothing" sentiments here. because while it's true there's nothing in nonexistence, we're talking about billions of lives, most of which aren't like us and don't want to die. back to the button ("press the button and the whole world disappears") analogy: you're erasing billions of people, all of which had ambitions, lives, things they loved, memories... all of it just gone, without them ever knowing, without their knowledge or consent. i find this horrifying.
No, no, you don't understand. Suffering is a thing that exists in this world, so every single person is better off dead. I am very smart.
 
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L'absent

L'absent

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Existence is a blind and cruel mechanism, a purposeless mistake that perpetuates itself through suffering. Every living being is born with a debt of pain, a biological sentence from which there is no escape. Desire is nothing more than a form of lack, a continuous tension that never ceases, and what we call happiness is merely a brief respite between one torment and the next. Pleasure itself is a deception, a momentary suspension of discomfort that tricks the organism into believing it has attained something, when in reality, it has merely returned to a neutral state before sinking once again into deprivation.

Evolution has never rewarded happiness, only the ability to survive long enough to generate more suffering in the form of offspring condemned to repeat the cycle. If pain is the primary driving force of life, then life itself is an auto-perpetuating process of agony, where every breath, every heartbeat, every nerve impulse is intrinsically tied to deficiency, deterioration, fear, and the inevitable collapse of flesh and mind. The desire for annihilation is not an escape but a form of extreme lucidity, an acknowledgment of the ultimate truth: non-being has always been superior to being, absence is the only condition free from pain, every birth is a tragedy, and the only true act of liberation is the one that breaks the chain and ends the perpetual regeneration of biological agony.

Humanity has constructed an infinite number of narratives to justify its presence in the cosmos, but none withstand a lucid and disillusioned analysis. Life is a chemical accident, an anomaly devoid of meaning and intrinsically bound to suffering. No sentient being would ever willingly choose this condition if they truly had a choice. In this scenario, the idea of cosmic self-annihilation through atomization or an asteroid impact takes on an almost merciful connotation—an event that would bring an end to millennia of self-generated agony, finally extinguishing the torment that has poisoned every second of lived existence.

The fear of the end is merely a reflection of the fear of change, an instinct programmed by evolution to protect a system that does not deserve to be perpetuated. If humanity were truly rational, if it could rise above its biological programming and see existence for what it is, it would understand that the real act of courage is not to continue existing but to put an end to a game that no one ever asked to play.
 
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