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I wish there was something more
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I'm an atheist, and I do think that the most likely scenario after death is simply nonexistence. But I wish, god how I wish there was something more to all this. How I wish all this suffering wasn't for nothing. Because this being all there is - it's too cruel. It's so unfair. So unfair.
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I believe there is. The unmanifest, pure bliss without any kind of pain and perverted minds. We are the observers inside a vehicle, the driver inside a car. This place though is a fallen state of manifasted heaven, a material one which was perfect but for some was not enough. The lust for more feelings, bodily that is brought it to this state. Delayed gratification, no pain no gain. Sounds familiar? No wonder we want to gtfo from here. May the ones who did this and enjoy it choke though, and they will, entrophy takes its toll. You cant eat the cake and have it too. Even then, its not a better cake, its shit cake, made of tears and torture of others, for the big delayed gratification gains. When we end up at home see you the good ppl who dont take this shit as smth good, drinks on me!
I'm with the OP. There's nothing. There is a bigger purpose to all this: when you die you become sustenance to foster new life. Any living thing that dies just becomes food and nutrients for new life. That's the true meaning of life. The cycle. The circle.
I guess I've just never understood the positive outlook of a heaven or plane beyond what is here. If we struggled and then existed in an eternal space, even if we were given every pleasure; what is the endpoint, to exist in perpetuity? I don't really see any meaning in that either. I think our impermanence is the single saving grace of our existence, that even at it's worse we have to endure this for a limited time.
Logically, I understand that nonexistence means an end to all suffering. But logical understanding and emotional experience are not the same. Right now, as I continue to exist, I can't help but yearn for a reason behind this overwhelming suffering I currently endure. I am in so, so much pain both mentally and physically, and the hurting part of me just wants an answer. I can somewhat understand what pushes people to religion now. Despite everything, I'm unable to delude myself into believing such things - a higher power, an overarching purpose - but my god sometimes I wish I was delusional.
I'm angry that I was made to exist in the first place. I'm sad that when I die, I'll most likely just dissolve back into the oblivion of an indifferent cosmos and all of my suffering will have been for nothing. I've tried to find comfort in the thought of nonexistence but I still feel... wronged, somehow. I feel utterly insignificant and powerless. It's true how the saying goes, that the best thing would be to have never existed at all.
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Logically, I understand that nonexistence means an end to all suffering. But logical understanding and emotional experience are not the same. Right now, as I continue to exist, I can't help but yearn for a reason behind this overwhelming suffering I currently endure. I am in so, so much pain both mentally and physically, and the hurting part of me just wants an answer. I can somewhat understand what pushes people to religion now. Despite everything, I'm unable to delude myself into believing such things - a higher power, an overarching purpose - but my god sometimes I wish I was delusional.
I'm angry that I was made to exist in the first place. I'm sad that when I die, I'll most likely just dissolve back into the oblivion of an indifferent cosmos and all of my suffering will have been for nothing. I've tried to find comfort in the thought of nonexistence but I still feel... wronged, somehow. I feel utterly insignificant and powerless. It's true how the saying goes, that the best thing would be to have never existed at all.
It's understandable to want your suffering vindicated. I feel the same way. Having it end doesn't quite amount to that.
What helps is to place your experience in the proper context. As beings with rich subjective experiences it's normal to focus on yourself. But consider all the endless hordes of people (and other animals) who have suffered terribly, pointlessly and futilely. Weave your own suffering into the greater tapestry of life on this wretched rock. There is no shortage of specific examples at all to draw from.
But you can't always think yourself out of feelings and that's okay. I guess this is just one more emotional obstacle to overcome if you want to kill yourself. Remaining alive is the only way to give your suffering any meaning (in a way you can experience it as such).
Logically, I understand that nonexistence means an end to all suffering. But logical understanding and emotional experience are not the same. Right now, as I continue to exist, I can't help but yearn for a reason behind this overwhelming suffering I currently endure. I am in so, so much pain both mentally and physically, and the hurting part of me just wants an answer. I can somewhat understand what pushes people to religion now. Despite everything, I'm unable to delude myself into believing such things - a higher power, an overarching purpose - but my god sometimes I wish I was delusional.
I'm angry that I was made to exist in the first place. I'm sad that when I die, I'll most likely just dissolve back into the oblivion of an indifferent cosmos and all of my suffering will have been for nothing. I've tried to find comfort in the thought of nonexistence but I still feel... wronged, somehow. I feel utterly insignificant and powerless. It's true how the saying goes, that the best thing would be to have never existed at all.
this life all wrng cncpt all cntrdct this resn want see reslt but no have, this cuz awfl cncpt, human logic cntrdct exst, this both exst not exst cntrdct, life all wrng
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I'm an atheist, and I do think that the most likely scenario after death is simply nonexistence. But I wish, god how I wish there was something more to all this. How I wish all this suffering wasn't for nothing. Because this being all there is - it's too cruel. It's so unfair. So unfair.
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