I wish I knew about SWB sooner + tips?

[notori]

Ive been looking into SWB since I saw it on the resources thread bc I'm looking for less messy ways to go out. I've been doing some research, it almost seems too simple. While I was looking into SWB deaths I was astonished at how many have happened in my hometown. I won't say much about it besides the fact it's on the beach and a popular tourist location, I knew drownings happened a lot but I assumed it was because people swam during double red flags or didn't know how to escape rip tides. I could easily do this and have it passed off as an accident from irresponsible drinking or drug use versus suicide….most people in my life know I'm not a strong swimmer. I could just be seen as some young adult that didn't take proper swimming precautions .

these are some of the problems I'm running into, if anyone has advice I'm desperate. I experimented with it for a little bit today and I'm trying to figure out how long i should hyperventilate before I put my head underwater. Maybe it's my SI but it felt like I was struggling and under panic a bit while I was under water when I hyperventilated for 30-60 seconds before, not getting as close to becoming unconscious as I'd like. I was also doing this in a pretty small bathtub and it felt a bit difficult to keep my head under water. Maybe I should look into some weights I could put over my neck(?) to keep my head forced down, or at least make an obstacle that will have to put in some effort to get my head back up? I think that would help me continue to go through with it at least. I'll have to try getting drunk or taking a bunch of Xanax and see if that helps with the SI, maybe if I'm tranquilized or drunk enough it'll be easier for me to stay under. Any advice or tips are very much appreciated.

im in the process of moving out of my parents right now though, into a different city. The beach wont be as easy for me to access but I know that my apartment and my college campus has a couple pools i could experiment with if it's late enough for nobody to be there. I would ideally hang myself but id rather do it somewhere discreet like a forest but those are difficult to find in the city haha, if anyone has ideas where I could hang myself discreetly (full suspension drop preferred) Any ideas are appreciated. I do own a gun but I really don't want to traumatize my roommates and family with a messy death. I would also prefer if I do hang myself for law inforcement to be the ones to cut me down rather than friends or family.

just some random backstory, a lot of people in my family have CTB, and I really don't want to traumatize them even more than they already are with what they've seen, which is why I'm trying to prevent a messy death. My last attempt was 5 years ago was a messy method and my sister who found me in a puddle of my own blood…has gone on to develop PTSD from it. I just can't seem to forgive myself for it. I'm so guilty I put her through that. my grandma CTB from OD and that traumatized my mom.….you probably get the point by now. I don't want someone I know to find me, and i don't want to hurt my family more. This is why I want to hang myself somewhere discreetly if I end up not going through with SWB.

im probably going to wait about a month to see if things in my life get better before i finally CTB, but if I start dying while messing around with a method I'm just going to let it happen. I'm starting a new university next semester studying something I love. It's a big school so hopefully I can make friends, that most if my problem with living with my parents in my hometown right now…. I seriously don't have any friends to the point my mom is bringing it up all the time how I never hang out with anyone, never make plans, never have anyone over. I have such a hard time making friends for some reason. Most of my friendships I had before I started dating my boyfriend have fallen out because most of my friends are guys and he's lowkey made me shut them out.

I haven't told my therapist or psychiatrist about my recent suicidal ideations, as far as they know I've recovered from that in the last five years. I could probably get some sort of perscription that could help me, if anyone has ideas please let me know.

 

[hopelessoceanic25]

SWB does seem to be quite a painless method, in terms of all of the other methods. I do know some people struggle to actually hyperventilate to the point of passing out though. So it varies by person. It may be viable for one person, but impossible for another.

 

[HD72]

Ive been looking into SWB since I saw it on the resources thread bc I'm looking for less messy ways to go out. I've been doing some research, it almost seems too simple. While I was looking into SWB deaths I was astonished at how many have happened in my hometown. I won't say much about it besides the fact it's on the beach and a popular tourist location, I knew drownings happened a lot but I assumed it was because people swam during double red flags or didn't know how to escape rip tides. I could easily do this and have it passed off as an accident from irresponsible drinking or drug use versus suicide….most people in my life know I'm not a strong swimmer. I could just be seen as some young adult that didn't take proper swimming precautions .

these are some of the problems I'm running into, if anyone has advice I'm desperate. I experimented with it for a little bit today and I'm trying to figure out how long i should hyperventilate before I put my head underwater. Maybe it's my SI but it felt like I was struggling and under panic a bit while I was under water when I hyperventilated for 30-60 seconds before, not getting as close to becoming unconscious as I'd like. I was also doing this in a pretty small bathtub and it felt a bit difficult to keep my head under water. Maybe I should look into some weights I could put over my neck(?) to keep my head forced down, or at least make an obstacle that will have to put in some effort to get my head back up? I think that would help me continue to go through with it at least. I'll have to try getting drunk or taking a bunch of Xanax and see if that helps with the SI, maybe if I'm tranquilized or drunk enough it'll be easier for me to stay under. Any advice or tips are very much appreciated.

im in the process of moving out of my parents right now though, into a different city. The beach wont be as easy for me to access but I know that my apartment and my college campus has a couple pools i could experiment with if it's late enough for nobody to be there. I would ideally hang myself but id rather do it somewhere discreet like a forest but those are difficult to find in the city haha, if anyone has ideas where I could hang myself discreetly (full suspension drop preferred) Any ideas are appreciated. I do own a gun but I really don't want to traumatize my roommates and family with a messy death. I would also prefer if I do hang myself for law inforcement to be the ones to cut me down rather than friends or family.

just some random backstory, a lot of people in my family have CTB, and I really don't want to traumatize them even more than they already are with what they've seen, which is why I'm trying to prevent a messy death. My last attempt was 5 years ago was a messy method and my sister who found me in a puddle of my own blood…has gone on to develop PTSD from it. I just can't seem to forgive myself for it. I'm so guilty I put her through that. my grandma CTB from OD and that traumatized my mom.….you probably get the point by now. I don't want someone I know to find me, and i don't want to hurt my family more. This is why I want to hang myself somewhere discreetly if I end up not going through with SWB.

im probably going to wait about a month to see if things in my life get better before i finally CTB, but if I start dying while messing around with a method I'm just going to let it happen. I'm starting a new university next semester studying something I love. It's a big school so hopefully I can make friends, that most if my problem with living with my parents in my hometown right now…. I seriously don't have any friends to the point my mom is bringing it up all the time how I never hang out with anyone, never make plans, never have anyone over. I have such a hard time making friends for some reason. Most of my friendships I had before I started dating my boyfriend have fallen out because most of my friends are guys and he's lowkey made me shut them out.

I haven't told my therapist or psychiatrist about my recent suicidal ideations, as far as they know I've recovered from that in the last five years. I could probably get some sort of perscription that could help me, if anyone has ideas please let me know.

I don't know anything about the drowning method other than the thought of it scares me to death. I will tell u I want to CTB too so I'm not here to stop u but as someone who worked in the domestic violence field I would say u deserve a bf who embraces u having friends. Denying u friends is a classic form of abuse. I hope u don't think I'm being nosy or trying to stop u. It's your choice. I just hate to see people who keep others from having friends. U deserve them. I hope u find peace and that u at least get some joy from being in a different living environment or at least a place where u can think with a lot less stress around u what u want to do. Perhaps look up some of the people who frequent the article about the method u r looking into. A lot of people post what helped and if they failed, why. I wish u peace. I wish all of us could just have some peace.

 

[Intoxicated]

I do know some people struggle to actually hyperventilate to the point of passing out though.

I think, passing out from hyperventilation doesn't give any significant advantages. Hyperventilation removes carbon dioxide from the blood and makes it maximally saturated with oxygen. Low CO2 level can cause fainting because the brain can't consume available oxygen effectively under such circumstances, but when CO2 builds up and its level goes back to normal, you'll wake up because you should have enough O2 and CO2 then.

The purpose of hyperventilation in the SWB method is not losing consciousness from it. It's rather supposed to increase the time of breath-hold during which you don't feel suffocation, so you can run out of oxygen and pass out without torturing yourself. Consuming the residual oxygen is a long process, it can take 3 - 5 minutes before reaching unconsciousness. If CO2 builds up to the critical point sooner, holding breath will be challenging.

You may need several cycles of hyperventilation and breath holding to achieve an optimal O2/CO2 proportion that would lead to fainting before reaching critical CO2 levels. It's a more difficult way than displacing oxygen from the lungs with an oxygen-free gas that can cause fainting in 30 - 40 seconds.

I was also doing this in a pretty small bathtub and it felt a bit difficult to keep my head under water.

Perhaps, you kept too much air in your lungs.

Maybe I should look into some weights I could put over my neck(?) to keep my head forced down, or at least make an obstacle that will have to put in some effort to get my head back up?

I think, if you keep your face down, this should be enough for submerging, but using additional weights also makes sense if you want a greater reliability.

I'll have to try getting drunk or taking a bunch of Xanax and see if that helps with the SI, maybe if I'm tranquilized or drunk enough it'll be easier for me to stay under. Any advice or tips are very much appreciated.

I can show you how sedation with gases works (in PM) if you want.

 

[Abyssal]

The only cases I've heard of on here regarding SWB are ones that are mixed with medication cocktails or some other method to pass out. I'm sure there's been success before, god knows there's professional swimmers who do it accidentally, but it seems like one of those easier said than done methods and not out of fear.

 

[aquasaltstripes]

I'm planning to go out with this method. The problem is however, that my bathtub is too small, such a size that I need to bend my knees and lie on my shins all the way down (sort of like "child's pose" in yoga) to submerge my face in it, and I'm scared my body's just gonna lift myself back up out of the water while I'm unconscious. Do you think it's still possible to do it and succeed bending my knees like that?

 

[penguinl0v3s]

I know someone who tried and failed. It's too hard to execute.

 

[losing hope]

Does anyone know if being a smoker might hinder your ability to hyperventilate?

 

[FutureHanger]

I know someone who tried and failed. It's too hard to execute.

what went wrong

 

[penguinl0v3s]

what went wrong

They weren't able to black out, probably because they didn't hyperventilate enough. And then SI kicked in because the water was too dark.

 

[cupcakesandmilk]

I think, passing out from hyperventilation doesn't give any significant advantages. Hyperventilation removes carbon dioxide from the blood and makes it maximally saturated with oxygen. Low CO2 level can cause fainting because the brain can't consume available oxygen effectively under such circumstances, but when CO2 builds up and its level goes back to normal, you'll wake up because you should have enough O2 and CO2 then.

The purpose of hyperventilation in the SWB method is not losing consciousness from it. It's rather supposed to increase the time of breath-hold during which you don't feel suffocation, so you can run out of oxygen and pass out without torturing yourself. Consuming the residual oxygen is a long process, it can take 3 - 5 minutes before reaching unconsciousness. If CO2 builds up to the critical point sooner, holding breath will be challenging.

You may need several cycles of hyperventilation and breath holding to achieve an optimal O2/CO2 proportion that would lead to fainting before reaching critical CO2 levels. It's a more difficult way than displacing oxygen from the lungs with an oxygen-free gas that can cause fainting in 30 - 40 seconds.

So I believe this method requires some/a lot of "training" beforehand, no?

 

[Intoxicated]

So I believe this method requires some/a lot of "training" beforehand, no?

It's difficult to tell how much time you'd need for successful fainting. Maybe a single 30-60 min session of several attempts or multiple sessions in different days.