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Hey...
I tried the taste of N yesterday and it was aweful! Does someone know how i could reduce the taste or smth like that? I dont know if i can swallow 200ml of that :/ i have a really easy retching.

I read some threads on here but non seemed to have a resolution ? I am really scared now cause of the taste and even of a small amount i choked and nearly puked. i just tried like 2-3ml (less then a spoon full) and it was aweful. has someone a resolution of how i get that down ?
 
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1 bottle is enough. I have two but will only drink one. that's enough
 
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How much is in a single bottle?

I'm surprised someone can drink any% N without many ill effects. I suppose it could be just choking and retching. I hope you're ok all the same.

edit: forgot to add but please don't taste test N or SN or anything else lethal. I think there's a sticky about it brb. There is:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/reminder-be-careful-when-handling-sn.84899/
 
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Well you're likely to feel some effects from that dose you sampled...No doubts you'll discover that for yourself very shortly.


There's been no real agreement on how to get past the wordt of the taste of vetinary N. Some find it much easier than other. Some people get really annoyed over this topic tbh.

So far it seems like there's a couple of things you can try. Lidocaine spray (if you can get it) is a numbing agent used when people have a camera put into their through/stomach. It makes it more bearable and stops the gag reflex being so bad. Some say it makes swallowing harder but that's not my experience. In fact the procedure of putting the camera into the stomach involves swallowing as it passes your throat. Lidoncaine can be bought in powder/salt form and dissolved into a liquid preparation and sprayed into the throat. There's a similar product named benzocaine spray which is easier to get but it's not good enough to do the job.

Another thing that seemed to have potential is a synthetic sweetner named neotame. Again, there's not really a consensus on how well this works to sweeten the vwtinary N but it is a very very steong sweetner which is used in such tiny amounts that you might put a single grain or two into a coffee and have a very sweet drink. Too much of it will become bitter in itself and be repulsive so it really does require some trial and error. The good thing is that it's cheap and available to buy. It's said it turns bitter things sweet but bitterness is not the only issue woth vetinary N.

Some have said they line their throats with honey but this have very limited scope. For someone like yourself I don't think it's applicable.

200ml is a surprisingly laege amount of liquid when you find yourself faced with it. I always thought such a small amount of liquid would be no issue but it's clearly something I underestimated. For some people at least.

Antiemetics might improve the gag reflex to some extent and benzos can help as they relax and calm you. Lorazepam is one benzo that is said to also have mild anti emetic properties so it's a potentially useful one. Though other benzos might (unofficially) have similar benefit.

Some if not all of this needs prior trial and error to guage how well it will work. Certainly wouldn't suggest using them without a few dry runs using something else (other than N) to test them.
 
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Some people get really annoyed over this topic tbh
May need a separate thread, I was thinking about making one to respect OP but I don't have much to say myself.

My thoughts on taste-testing SN/anything lethal:
If I really wanted to kill myself, I would expect to be able to down the whole thing no problems. If dying was better than living, or what I wanted. I have strong survival instinct and reasons to not ctb, as well as shitty past life, so deciding to kill myself and carry on are both hard decisions. The taste seems small to deal with in comparison to ctb decision or previous life. I suppose it's different for other people.

Taking a small amount of SN seems like a very risky way to call for help even as taste-test. People have accidentally died from it.
I'm curious how bad the taste is myself, perhaps there should be a safe alternative that tastes the same? I agree with that suggestion if you're going to taste-test at all, then find a non-lethal alternative with similar taste.
The other problem I see with taste-tasting is does it actually tell you anything? It might taste too shitty now, but if someone is dead-set on death, the taste might not matter.
 
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thank you all for the Answers. I didnt mind to be accidantly dead tbh.

I really want to ctb but i already got a gag reflex on this small amount so im really unsure if i could swallow a whole buttlo. My reflex is really sensituve sadly.
How much is in a single bottle?

I'm surprised someone can drink any% N without many ill effects. I suppose it could be just choking and retching. I hope you're ok all the same.

edit: forgot to add but please don't taste test N or SN or anything else lethal. I think there's a sticky about it brb. There is:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/reminder-be-careful-when-handling-sn.84899/
In one bottle (100ml) is 6.3 gram of N
1 bottle is enough
Some told me that one bottle may not be enough. And even in the PPeH its said to be sure of 10 Grams. In one Bottle is only 6.3 g. If i do ctb i just want to be sure. But im not even sure i could swallow one bottle. The taste was really awful and made me gag
If I really wanted to kill myself, I would expect to be able to down the whole thing no problems.
My problem is my sensitive Gag reflex. Even normal medication make me gag if it tastes not so good.
Well you're likely to feel some effects from that dose you sampled
I did after few Minutes of taking it. I got dizzy and sleepy and felt a bit sedated but i was still awake and nothing more happened
 
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My thoughts on taste-testing N/SN/anything lethal:
If I really wanted to kill myself, I would expect to be able to down the whole thing no problems.
Going in unprepared is silly. Testing a small amount of N is not nearly as dangerous as SN, I'm not sure what you're on about. Simply searching for N taste will show you dozens of threads of people trying to find something that tastes similar for everyone, but no one can agree to 1 thing because people's taste buds differ.
The other problem I see with taste-tasting is does it actually tell you anything? It might taste too shitty now, but if someone is dead-set on death, the taste might not matter.
I'd find it doubtful that it doesn't help at least a little bit with preparing mentally, some people here did not mind the taste at all which probably removed any/some anxiety and helped them down a full 100 or 200ml. For others like OP it helps so they know what to expect, and find a way to somewhat mask it as to prevent mistakes e.g. spewing it out the moment you taste it.
 
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Going in unprepared is silly. Testing a small amount of N is not nearly as dangerous as SN, I'm not sure what you're on about. Simply searching for N taste will show you dozens of threads of people trying to find something that tastes similar for everyone, but no one can agree to 1 thing because people's taste buds differ.

I'd find it doubtful that it doesn't help at least a little bit with preparing mentally, some people here did not mind the taste at all which probably removed any/some anxiety and helped them down a full 100 or 200ml. For others like OP it helps so they know what to expect, and find a way to somewhat mask it as to prevent mistakes e.g. spewing it out the moment you taste it.
Don't be ridiculous, who said unprepared. Look, just because it might be ok for N doesn't mean it's ok to ingest anything poisonous or lethal. Literally a sticky about SN. There is some value in finding an alternative that tastes similar. You know it can easily go both ways anyway if you've ever heard of "Punishment vs reward".
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/reminder-be-careful-when-handling-sn.84899/

I'm sorry people having an opinion offends you? Thanks for the childish hmph react, I literally just said how it would be for me personally. Or because I'm at odds with your apparently dangerous viewpoint that chugging all manner of toxins should be normalized now? Which was it? Pro-choice not pro-death.

Some people get really annoyed over this topic tbh.
Seems like there are some especially hard advocates, for sure...
 
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Hey...
I tried the taste of N yesterday and it was aweful! Does someone know how i could reduce the taste or smth like that? I dont know if i can swallow 200ml of that :/ i have a really easy retching.

I read some threads on here but non seemed to have a resolution ? I am really scared now cause of the taste and even of a small amount i choked and nearly puked. i just tried like 2-3ml (less then a spoon full) and it was aweful. has someone a resolution of how i get that down ?
Use a lidocaine mouthwash or gel, something similar to Difflam rinse or spray, or Oragel for dental pain. I would also immediately have some chocolate syrup ready to swirl around and rinse immediately after swallowing N.
 
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May need a separate thread, I was thinking about making one to respect OP but I don't have much to say myself.

My thoughts on taste-testing SN/anything lethal:
If I really wanted to kill myself, I would expect to be able to down the whole thing no problems. If dying was better than living, or what I wanted. I have strong survival instinct and reasons to not ctb, as well as shitty past life, so deciding to kill myself and carry on are both hard decisions. The taste seems small to deal with in comparison to ctb decision or previous life. I suppose it's different for other people.

Taking a small amount of SN seems like a very risky way to call for help even as taste-test. People have accidentally died from it.
I'm curious how bad the taste is myself, perhaps there should be a safe alternative that tastes the same? I agree with that suggestion if you're going to taste-test at all, then find a non-lethal alternative with similar taste.
The other problem I see with taste-tasting is does it actually tell you anything? It might taste too shitty now, but if someone is dead-set on death, the taste might not matter.

We're talking about N, just to be clear. Notoriously bad tasting. Sure, for some it's easier than other but for people with gastric issues or issues with gag reflex it's more than just the taste, it's the volume. The two combined are a genuine challenge for some. Even those committed and suffering plenty to be full of conviction in their attempt. But it appears there's some confusion anyway as you're referring to SN when the topic is about an experience with N. : )

Taste testing N is perfectly fine in small measured doses as it is a drug that's been used in humans. Think of it like the difference between getting high and overdosing. That is the exact difference in fact. It was a regularly used drug that got taken off the market and replaced by benzos which aren't so easy to fatally OD on.

SN on the other hand is not a drug (for humans or otherwise) and should never be taste tested. It's used in curing meat but by the time the meat is used its no longer SN as far as I understand it.

They're two very different animals. Assuming the two carry the same rules is incorrect. Assumptions of any kind are pretty dangerous.
 
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No one has survived 6 grams of N yet. nobody . Fear and panic only arise when there is incorrect information and unproven sources. 1 bottle is certain death. more N does not hasten death either. get detailed information that does not come from this site. I did it that way.
 
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Whilst it's true that 1 bottle would kill many there is a reason that the euthanasia organisations now use 15g of N. The reason being that there are outliers. People who, for whatever reason remain in a comatose phase for extended periods. Would they die eventually? Most likely but does anyone really want to enter into this without 100% certainty?

There was a time they used less than the 1 bottle equivalent dose. They raised the dose multiple times over experiences they didn't expect.

The protocols and potential complications are somewhat outlined in guidelines found in this linked file from one of the organisations. (not this site)
 

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Forget it, not worth spending the little energy I have left.
 
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Hey...
I tried the taste of N yesterday and it was aweful! Does someone know how i could reduce the taste or smth like that? I dont know if i can swallow 200ml of that :/ i have a really easy retching.

I read some threads on here but non seemed to have a resolution ? I am really scared now cause of the taste and even of a small amount i choked and nearly puked. i just tried like 2-3ml (less then a spoon full) and it was aweful. has someone a resolution of how i get that down ?
Well, same here,'easy retching', but holding your nose eliminates bad tastes---you shoulda done that in the first place but now you know how it tastes unfortunately---but I would still try holding your nose---maybe coat your tongue with something sickeningly sweet like that antiemetic Emetrol(cherry)first,you can get it at any drug store
 
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it would be great if one could swallow a tube and somehow slowly pump the N through this tube right away into the esophagus to bypass the taste buds lol
Like this for oil, but then with a very small flexible tube that's easy to swallow 🤔 :blarg:

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thank you all for the Answers. I didnt mind to be accidantly dead tbh.

I really want to ctb but i already got a gag reflex on this small amount so im really unsure if i could swallow a whole buttlo. My reflex is really sensituve sadly.

In one bottle (100ml) is 6.3 gram of N

Some told me that one bottle may not be enough. And even in the PPeH its said to be sure of 10 Grams. In one Bottle is only 6.3 g. If i do ctb i just want to be sure. But im not even sure i could swallow one bottle. The taste was really awful and made me gag

My problem is my sensitive Gag reflex. Even normal medication make me gag if it tastes not so good.

I did after few Minutes of taking it. I got dizzy and sleepy and felt a bit sedated but i was still awake and nothing more happened
'I don't mind being accidentally dead' same here---When I first put the EEBD hood on my head to test the Nitrogen flow effect on my Oxygen, the hood is quite tight around the neck--As soon as I saw my oxygen number drop to 88, I took the hood off right away, but my Oxygen still dropped to 50! With the oximeter's delayed notification reaction time, if I had waited longer to take the hood off when the oximeter finally showed 50, I wouldn't be here right now because that hood will not slip off the neck if I passed out
 
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it would be great if one could swallow a tube and somehow slowly pump the N through this tube right away into the esophagus to bypass the taste buds lol
Like this for oil, but then with a very small flexible tube that's easy to swallow 🤔 :blarg:

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This is actually doable with a feeding line. You put it in the nose and feed it down into the stomach. It does cause some wretching for some though. I'm not sure why this isn't used. It gets shot down quite quickly. There may be a legitimate reason I forgetting or am unaware of. I guess there couls be limitations with how quickly you can feed 200ml into it. Usually it's used with a syringe and 200ml isn't covered lol. Even a 50ml syringe is massive.

With a pump like that I think a lot of the 200ml would be stuck inside of it.

And then there's the removal of the tube. It could cause vomiting itself.
 
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It's not really an option without significant preparation and modified equipment. No syringe will hold 200ml and even if it did you would never get it in a vein quickly enough before passing out. Also there's significant necrosis if you miss the vein. Even a bit.

It's not entirely impossible but requires knowledge, accuracy and resources. If you're not familiar with some elements of it it's just so easy to get wrong and some of it is hard even with experience because you're doing it on your own, on yourself. For example putting canula/line in requires two hands normally.
 
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It's not really an option without significant preparation and modified equipment. No syringe will hold 200ml and even if it did you would never get it in a vein quickly enough before passing out. Also there's significant necrosis if you miss the vein. Even a bit.

It's not entirely impossible but requires knowledge, accuracy and resources. If you're not familiar with some elements of it it's just so easy to get wrong and some of it is hard even with experience because you're doing it on your own, on yourself. For example putting canula/line in requires two hands normally.
Someone told me i could use a saline solution bag. Fill in the N and then just use a Butterflyy Needle to inject it. I already used a Butterfly on myself without any problems
 
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Someone told me i could use a saline solution bag. Fill in the N and then just use a Butterflyy Needle to inject it. I already used a Butterfly on myself without any problems
That's true but is still prone to issues. Once you pass out you will relax and can easily pull the needle out of the vein or block the line by pressing on it. There's also the possibility it could get an air bibble in it and that's not a pleasant way to die. You have to know how to avoid that. Then there are a couple of things that can happen where the line stops feeding for one reason or another which is easily fixed but as you would likely be out cold that wouldn't be possible.

Honestly I wish it was so simple myself. I would much prefer IV.
 
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That's true but is still prone to issues. Once you pass out you will relax and can easily pull the needle out of the vein or block the line by pressing on it. There's also the possibility it could get an air bibble in it and that's not a pleasant way to die. You have to know how to avoid that. Then there are a couple of things that can happen where the line stops feeding for one reason or another which is easily fixed but as you would likely be out cold that wouldn't be possible.

Honestly I wish it was so simple myself. I would much prefer IV.
Well fck then. Ill try the stunning spray then i guess. Cant think of another way of swallowing it then. Or ill use the gas Method
 
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It just occurred to me how much 200ml is.
 
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Yeah me too... Its not that easy to swallow that all. You need a few sips. And each sip gets worse
Some people have suggested using a big straw put as far back in the mouth as possible.
 
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Some people have suggested using a big straw put as far back in the mouth as possible.
The thing is i dont know why but i cant swallow instant. Like when i drink i fill my mouth full and then swallow all at once
 
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The thing is i dont know why but i cant swallow instant. Like when i drink i fill my mouth full and then swallow all at once
Maybe try learning to do that. Like drink water poured into the back of your throat and swallow. A good way to do that is by keeping your mouth open because then you can't fill your mouth or cheeks. A least with water you can make mistakes/spills and not worry about it. You'll be surprised how easy it is I bet.
 
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Update: I bought a sweetener wich is apparently 600x stronger then sugar.
I mixed 50ml vodka with 50ml of water (wich even that made me gag normally) and with the sweetner i could get it down. I hope it works with N aswell for me
 
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I second the idea of holding your nose...maybe even get a swimming nose clip so you can do it hands free. If it helps I knew someone from off this forum who succeeded with N and he complained like crazy about the taste in a bunch of posts and still managed.
 
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I second the idea of holding your nose...maybe even get a swimming nose clip so you can do it hands free. If it helps I knew someone from off this forum who succeeded with N and he complained like crazy about the taste in a bunch of posts and still managed.
Nose holding didnt seem to do smth for me. Maybe it wasnt the taste in general and more the "burning" of the medicine like the burning of alcohol wich gave me the gag
 
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