I still wish i was american

[blueclover_.]

America has a lot of flaws. Just like every other country on earth. But i have accepted those flaws a long time ago and I can't shake the feeling of wishing i was born there.

I was born into a lower-middle class family in the suburbs. Growing up my favorite channels were Cartoon Network, Disney Juniors, and some regular channels which aired some classic 2000's American movies. My parents weren't religious back then, so those movies really shaped my worldview into becoming who i am as a person today.

I am full of Western Ideology. It was bound to happen that i feel disconnected from the locals as I do not share their Eastern ideology. I don't feel like i belong here. I'm too liberal for them and nothing will ever change that. I want to go but that's like impossible unless you're ready to risk everything. I don't know if i'm ever gonna be ready for that.

But gosh i wish i was American. Even with broken healthcare, politics, and education system... I still want to hold the flag and proudly say that i am a patriot to The United States of America. To proudly say that my country fought for its freedom against Great Britain and won the second world war after a long period of isolation from the Old World. To be on the same side as The Founding Fathers when they first started a rebellion against the world's biggest imperialists—the British Monarchy which later leads to the French Revolution. To be able to hear those incredible speeches and feel included in its narrative. To be an American who seeks to improve their country no matter what. I wish to be born like that.

Thanks for reading and have a good day! :]

 

[WoAiGou]

As an American....

U.S. Regime Has Killed 20-30 Million People since World War II

22 Mar 2018 - We must continue our efforts to develop understanding and compassion in the world. Hopefully, this article will assist in doing that by addressing the question “How many September 11ths has the United States caused in other nations since WWII?” This theme is developed in this...

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[8AEM]

I can't begin to describe how much I relate to your post. I, too, live in a backwards country. How conservative everybody here is one of my reasons for wanting to ctb. Like you, I envy Americans and anybody living in a more open-minded environment. Feeling detached from "normal" values and the people around you truly is a miserable experience. I don't know about you, but I feel as if the people "closest" to me don't really know me because I never expose my true beliefs. Most people (here at least), unfortunately, can't accept different viewpoints. I understand how you feel. It's hell.

 

[Sherri]

I agree with you, but in my case I would prefer to be Canadian and live in Vancouver.

 

[Fragile]

I relate so much to this. The perfect country does not exist, but I know the one I would've chosen if I had the chance.

The United States is such a beautiful country, extremely diverse in many ways. So many great movements started there and made a global impact for freedom, going from it's liberation movement and constitution that deeply inspired the guy who liberated my country and many others in Latin America.
Even modern gay rights could be directly traced to the actions of people from this country, and their propagation around the world was powered by their cultural hegemony. despite it's current divide over them.
Despite the bad parts, I'm sure that I'd be living a much better life in the United States, I'm enamored with their concept of freedom, the libertine culture, diverse landscape... or maybe this is just the perspective of someone who lives in a shithole.

Either way, this is one of the many unachievable dreams that I'll never be able to live in my life.

As an American....

U.S. Regime Has Killed 20-30 Million People since World War II

22 Mar 2018 - We must continue our efforts to develop understanding and compassion in the world. Hopefully, this article will assist in doing that by addressing the question “How many September 11ths has the United States caused in other nations since WWII?” This theme is developed in this...

www.transcend.org

This is the most biased, misleading and obvious propaganda piece that I've read this year.
Especially because I'm from a country listed there and I've watched the war from the front seats, many of us are thankful for the US intervention, many others wished for more. It's obvious that they were not saints, and they acted in self interest, but what they saved us from would've dwarfed that number many times over, the other side is much worse in so many ways, it's unbelievable the level of terror that they caused is now ignored by history in favor of "aMeRIcA=bAd" rhetoric.

Maybe it's true what they say abut 'murica, the real enemy was always at their home.

 

[noname223]

I am convinced there are great parts of the US but for me it would be a worse choice. I am too ill to work and welfare is very low there. (at least compared to Europe) Moreover with my medical bills I would have been bankrupt since years and probably now living on the street. (Though this also can also happen in my country.)

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

But gosh i wish i was American. Even with broken healthcare, politics, and education system... I still want to hold the flag and proudly say that i am a patriot to The United States of America. To proudly say that my country fought for its freedom against Great Britain and won the second world war after a long period of isolation from the Old World. To be on the same side as The Founding Fathers when they first started a rebellion against the world's biggest imperialists—the British Monarchy which later leads to the French Revolution. To be able to hear those incredible speeches and feel included in its narrative. To be an American who seeks to improve their country no matter what. I wish to be born like that.

Those are certainly great and inspiring historical moments, but remember that every story has many facets, and history tends to focus only on that which puts the victors in a positive light. The founding fathers had incredible, revolution ideas about freedom and government and no doubt changed the world, but they were slave owners and flawed men themselves. US involved in WWII led to an important, much needed victory for the allies, but the circumstances surrounding the deployment of the nuclear bombs are troublesome, and the aftermath horrific. I live in the US and I do love living here, despite all its flaws. Your tone and text suggest a form of idolatry, though, and that can be problematic. In fact, I think a lot of Americans have taken their patriotism and turned it into idolatry, which is a big reason for many of the nation's problems right now. It's important to understand that the people and systems that bring wealth, power, productivity, and even peace, have a negative side to them as well, and that has to be grappled with. Blind nationalism can lead to the destruction of the things that make a country great.

I do like that you said you wish to "be an American who seeks to improve their country no matter what." As someone who lives here, I wish more people had that mindset. I actually don't think many Americans embody that principle. Many often believe that their country is already great and anyway who tries to suggest change for the better is anti-American, or they believe that the country used to be great and they want to bring it back to the ways of old, in complete ignorance of the fact that the country was only "great" for some and that many were disenfranchised.

I agree with you, but in my case I would prefer to be Canadian and live in Vancouver.

I'm a Canadian living in the US. I feel this. Canada has to wrestle with its own demons too, particularly the horrible treatment of its indigenous peoples. Still, I feel very proud to be Canadian.

 

[Sherri]

Those are certainly great and inspiring historical moments, but remember that every story has many facets, and history tends to focus only on that which puts the victors in a positive light. The founding fathers had incredible, revolution ideas about freedom and government and no doubt changed the world, but they were slave owners and flawed men themselves. US involved in WWII led to an important, much needed victory for the allies, but the circumstances surrounding the deployment of the nuclear bombs are troublesome, and the aftermath horrific. I live in the US and I do love living here, despite all its flaws. Your tone and text suggest a form of idolatry, though, and that can be problematic. In fact, I think a lot of Americans have taken their patriotism and turned it into idolatry, which is a big reason for many of the nation's problems right now. It's important to understand that the people and systems that bring wealth, power, productivity, and even peace, have a negative side to them as well, and that has to be grappled with. Blind nationalism can lead to the destruction of the things that make a country great.

I do like that you said you wish to "be an American who seeks to improve their country no matter what." As someone who lives here, I wish more people had that mindset. I actually don't think many Americans embody that principle. Many often believe that their country is already great and anyway who tries to suggest change for the better is anti-American, or they believe that the country used to be great and they want to bring it back to the ways of old, in complete ignorance of the fact that the country was only "great" for some and that many were disenfranchised.


I'm a Canadian living in the US. I feel this. Canada has to wrestle with its own demons too, particularly the horrible treatment of its indigenous peoples. Still, I feel very proud to be Canadian.

I do agree with you about the indigenous you are tottaly right. Im personally not a fan of Quebec. But some people love it.

 

[Foresight]

None of us say we're patriots unless you served in a shit money grab war, and even some of them wake up to what the truth. If you have any sense as an American you hang your head in shame knowing how many civilian casualties your country has caused and how much damage abroad we've created.

I don't know where you're from but healthcare, education, and the cost of living is not just bad, it's abysmal. We're collapsing. You pay astronomical premiums for healthcare just to get a routine visit and still get a bill for $800 or more. It's unbelievable. People easily have 10s of thousands of dollars of student loan debt. Enjoy shit wages, expensive living, unfriendly neighbors, political misinformation campaigns getting everyone worked up, a nonfunctioning federal government, a militarized police force, and greedy materialism ruling the culture. I don't at all think we're bottom tier for quality of life globally, but we sure as shit are bottom of the list to comparative countries. If you're already in country that devours the weak from the moment they turn 18, then sure maybe the fun sexy culture is worth it.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

you pay astronomical premiums for healthcare just to get a routine visit and still get a bill for $800 or more.

Do you mean an ER visit?

 

[Foresight]

it's unbelievable the level of terror that they caused is now ignored by history in favor of "aMeRIcA=bAd" rhetoric.

Maybe it's true what they say abut 'murica, the real enemy was always at their home.

I respect your view from your experiences with the US, but america=bad is a deeply complicated matter. Don't be quick to dismiss it. I'm glad the US served your region, but our country has been involved in horrible foreign events and we do have bleak internal issues that you really have to either study extensively or live here to know.

 

[Somber]

I don't think living in a hyper capitalistic society; where everything from healthcare & education to voting rights & jails are all subjected to how much money can be earned off of it; is a country I would want to live in.

But I do like American optimism, entertainment and the vast variety of natural biomes it has to offer.

 

[Foresight]

Do you mean an ER visit?

No, I wish. I have health insurance from the marketplace and my husband has health insurance from his employer. He has been on a few different policies with this employer so it's not just one company. He went in to a primary care visit for breathing problems recently. He got an inhaler and a chest x ray. Even with insurance we paid over $300 for that. I'm still paying off a UTI and cyst scan I got two years ago. This was UTI care from my primary care office. They ran a special bacterial test because I was having chronic UTIs. Around the same time I got an ultrasound of a cyst. Those two came to nearly $900 out of pocket. My husband ran a blood test at his doctor's office because his red blood cell count was not right. We paid $250 for one test. It was well over $1000 without insurance.

We both pay over $200 a month in premiums for these insurances. They have high deductibles and only cover between 20-80% of these massive bills for tiny medical visits. We don't go to the doctors anymore. We don't have hundreds lying around every time we get basic care. I work in taxes so I see how much people and employers pay for health insurance. It can get abysmal.

 

[Fragile]

I respect your view from your experiences with the US, but america=bad is a deeply complicated matter. Don't be quick to dismiss it. I'm glad the US served your region, but our country has been involved in horrible foreign events and we do have bleak internal issues that you really have to either study extensively or live here to know.

I wasn't talking about globally, since I know that those issues are far more complicated elsewhere. I'd be the last to dismiss the perspective from people living in other countries.

What I was complaining about is the regional rhetoric that tells us that the united states are to blame for everything, this came from certain socialist dictators and terrorists that used it as an scapegoat whenever their openly hostile and failed regimes where questioned. Now the younger generation is parroting these ideas because they are trendy, not because they lived in times when the war against literal terrorists almost destroyed the nation and moved 7 million people away from their homes.
At least in the Americas, the US foreign policies have never been great, but they are a much lesser evil than the alternative.

 

[absoluteanimal1]

I'm American and I always wish I lived in Europe, like Germany or somewhere similar. They get affordable healthcare, more vacation days, no crippling student loans, etc. I guess the grass is always greener on the other side.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

No, I wish. I have health insurance from the marketplace and my husband has health insurance from his employer. He has been on a few different policies with this employer so it's not just one company. He went in to a primary care visit for breathing problems recently. He got an inhaler and a chest x ray. Even with insurance we paid over $300 for that. I'm still paying off a UTI and cyst scan I got two years ago. This was UTI care from my primary care office. They ran a special bacterial test because I was having chronic UTIs. Around the same time I got an ultrasound of a cyst. Those two came to nearly $900 out of pocket. My husband ran a blood test at his doctor's office because his red blood cell count was not right. We paid $250 for one test. It was well over $1000 without insurance.

We both pay over $200 a month in premiums for these insurances. They have high deductibles and only cover between 20-80% of these massive bills for tiny medical visits. We don't go to the doctors anymore. We don't have hundreds lying around every time we get basic care. I work in taxes so I see how much people and employers pay for health insurance. It can get abysmal.

Oh, that makes more sense. I thought you meant $800 for a reg primary care visit (no tests). My husband and I pay $130 a month for a $400 deductible and 80% coverage after that. Which I decent-ish, I guess? I was paying 230 for similar coverage through the marketplace before we were married.

I wish I could stop going to the doctor but I have serious chronic issues and pain. So I just continue to go broke.

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

Do you mean an ER visit?

$800 for an ER visit would be a bargain. It cost my husband over $2,000 to go to the ER back in 2020, and we have insurance. We still haven't paid it off. They did nothing for him. He was there for seven hours, was kept in the waiting room for five hours, and all they gave him was Tylenol before they sent him home.

 

[PreussenBlueJay]

The feeling of social isolation in America can be intense. You will feel connected to friends, coworkers and acquaintances but oftentimes you can feel like a complete stranger and out of place. There's a sense that the people around you are only out for themselves and couldn't care less about you, like the woman on the subway who was assaulted with many other people in the vicinity ignoring it or the journalist that was knifed to death.

There's trade offs to extreme individualism and on my side I wonder about a more collectivist alternative not being better.

 

[Foresight]

That's my bad, when I said routine I meant like a normal everyday health problem. UTIs, cysts, asthma, a platelet check, etc. We don't have severe or complex issues and yet we consistently owe these providers money.

I will say that if you're in poverty you get 100% coverage. It's a low income threshold though so you are poor to have it. I spent most of my life in poverty. I've been on welfare and I never worried like this and was able to get healthcare, but being lower middle class is arguably one of the worst positions to be in. You pay as much as the higher classes and get no assistance.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

$800 for an ER visit would be a bargain. It cost my husband over $2,000 to go to the ER back in 2020, and we have insurance. We still haven't paid it off. They did nothing for him. He was there for seven hours, was kept in the waiting room for five hours, and all they gave him was Tylenol before they sent him home.

I had a similar experience a few years ago but mine was only $850. Maybe if your husband hadn't asked for that $2,000 Tylenol, y'all wouldn't be in this mess? Hmmmm??? USA! USA!

But seriously, our healthcare blows.

 

[Chinaski]

America has a lot of flaws. Just like every other country on earth. But i have accepted those flaws a long time ago and I can't shake the feeling of wishing i was born there.

I was born into a lower-middle class family in the suburbs. Growing up my favorite channels were Cartoon Network, Disney Juniors, and some regular channels which aired some classic 2000's American movies. My parents weren't religious back then, so those movies really shaped my worldview into becoming who i am as a person today.

I am full of Western Ideology. It was bound to happen that i feel disconnected from the locals as I do not share their Eastern ideology. I don't feel like i belong here. I'm too liberal for them and nothing will ever change that. I want to go but that's like impossible unless you're ready to risk everything. I don't know if i'm ever gonna be ready for that.

But gosh i wish i was American. Even with broken healthcare, politics, and education system... I still want to hold the flag and proudly say that i am a patriot to The United States of America. To proudly say that my country fought for its freedom against Great Britain and won the second world war after a long period of isolation from the Old World. To be on the same side as The Founding Fathers when they first started a rebellion against the world's biggest imperialists—the British Monarchy which later leads to the French Revolution. To be able to hear those incredible speeches and feel included in its narrative. To be an American who seeks to improve their country no matter what. I wish to be born like that.

Thanks for reading and have a good day! :]

There's a lot to work with in this thread, but absolutely lmao at "won the second world war", as if the USA didn't stay the fuck out of it for over two years and testing nuclear weaponry by annihilating a Japanese fishing village is something worth taking national pride in.

 

[Somber]

I'm American and I always wish I lived in Europe, like Germany or somewhere similar. They get affordable healthcare, more vacation days, no crippling student loans, etc. I guess the grass is always greener on the other side.

That does sound nice but they do speak German so ... there is that.

 

[Snake of Eden]

Yes I wish i was nordic or german. Very atttactive people i think.

 

[Insomniac]

America has a lot of flaws. Just like every other country on earth. But i have accepted those flaws a long time ago and I can't shake the feeling of wishing i was born there.

I was born into a lower-middle class family in the suburbs. Growing up my favorite channels were Cartoon Network, Disney Juniors, and some regular channels which aired some classic 2000's American movies. My parents weren't religious back then, so those movies really shaped my worldview into becoming who i am as a person today.

I am full of Western Ideology. It was bound to happen that i feel disconnected from the locals as I do not share their Eastern ideology. I don't feel like i belong here. I'm too liberal for them and nothing will ever change that. I want to go but that's like impossible unless you're ready to risk everything. I don't know if i'm ever gonna be ready for that.

But gosh i wish i was American. Even with broken healthcare, politics, and education system... I still want to hold the flag and proudly say that i am a patriot to The United States of America. To proudly say that my country fought for its freedom against Great Britain and won the second world war after a long period of isolation from the Old World. To be on the same side as The Founding Fathers when they first started a rebellion against the world's biggest imperialists—the British Monarchy which later leads to the French Revolution. To be able to hear those incredible speeches and feel included in its narrative. To be an American who seeks to improve their country no matter what. I wish to be born like that.

Thanks for reading and have a good day! :]

I relate in that I really wish I was born in Australia or New Zealand. I'm convinced there are no better places in the world than Australia and New Zealand ( because of the Nature and how isolated they are from the rest of the world).

Yes I wish i was nordic or german. Very atttactive people i think.

the most attractive people in the world are afghans and south koreans in my opinion. and of course nordic people from countries like finland, norway, etc.

 

[Manaaja]

I always wanted to live in the USA, but nowadays I don't. I also wanted to live in Africa (in one of the jungle countries), South America (jungles, maybe mountains too), Canada, Hawaii (I know it's part of the USA, but deserves a special mention), New Zealand, Australia, Ireland, Britain, France, the Netherlands, Sweden, Japan, China, Madagascar, Greece, Italy, etc.

I wanted to live all around the world when I was a kid and teen. Nowadays I don't. I wish there was a portal to a jungle, like Amazon, would be cool to experience. ...I'd definitely visit the UK too.

If you want to know why I wanted to live in the USA, it's because I liked some of its laws, its people, its nature (I wanted to experience Hawaii, Alaska and a few other places), I played GTA and fell in love with Miami hahaha (I wanted to move to Miami thanks to GTA). I saw the USA almost everyday in the tv/movies/news/media/videogames so of course I wanted to visit it. I also wanted to see skyscrapers and visit New York and Los Angeles (I had heard of those cities every day since I was born so naturally I wanted to visit them). Oh, and cheaper prices and much easier to find things. Also, because there were lots of people, I felt it would be much easier to find friends to share hobbies with.

 

[WrongPlaceWrongTime]

I have my complaints about America, but the rest of the world is also made of shit. I choose to stay with the devil I'm familiar with.

That does sound nice but they do speak German so ... there is that.

ez, just take some DuoLingo lessons and you'll be 100% fluent

 

[Somber]

I have my complaints about America, but the rest of the world is also made of shit. I choose to stay with the devil I'm familiar with.

ez, just take some DuoLingo lessons and you'll be 100% fluent

I had 2 years of German in college. Never again. It has some of the most difficult grammar ever.

 

[Capsicum_Corral]

American Exceptionalism used to be a real thing, and there are still vast numbers of good people here. We didn't fall to the godless metric system, and our use of the human-scaled Fahrenheit has served us well. There's a lot more that would be too political for this forum, but suffice to say America has been much like Disney World for quite a while. What you see on the front side is a facade, with many managers and employees on the back side.

Our downfall began with the discovery of oil. https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil/

 

[blueclover_.]

There's a lot to work with in this thread, but absolutely lmao at "won the second world war", as if the USA didn't stay the fuck out of it for over two years and testing nuclear weaponry by annihilating a Japanese fishing village is something worth taking national pride in.

Still, technically they saved the allies and prevented USSR from taking over Germany's role. They saved more lives globally, and casualties are to be expected from war.

Yes I wish i was nordic or german. Very atttactive people i think.

Lmao i wish to fit into the eurocentric beauty standards too. But it doesn't really matter beside me loving the history of the country.

 

[xrosex]

I like to think of humanity as 1 with no borders, sadly that's not the way of this world we live in. I am not American or not live there, never visited and going off the little I know of history of that place…. I think it's sad what happened to the indigenous and in present times not that great on reservations. Personally I feel the invisible borders are dividing us ……. Shit sorry I'm drunk on red wine and tired as fuck early hours and should get sleeping