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LaughingGoat

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Apr 11, 2024
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You may find the Gnostic's belief in the Demiurge interesting. Basically the god which created the universe was evil and imperfect. There was a lot of conflict between them and the Christians in the early A.D. centuries.
 
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All_is_in_vanity

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Jan 9, 2023
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You may find the Gnostic's belief in the Demiurge interesting. Basically the god which created the universe was evil and imperfect. There was a lot of conflict between them and the Christians in the early A.D. centuries.
I've heard of it. But it still suggests there is a good one that is like being suppressed
You don't have to worry then because there is no god. The idea of a god is just a human construct used to "explain" concepts back when knowledge was scarce, not something that actually exists in reality
I simply can't believe such a thing. Some higher, evil power has to exist
 
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mainlanders_son

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You don't have to worry then because there is no god. The idea of a god is just a human construct used to "explain" concepts back when knowledge was scarce, not something that actually exists in reality
If something like god exists- omnipotent, omniscient, etc, it is completely incomprehensible to human beings, totally outside the bounds of our limited existence.
 
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All_is_in_vanity

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Most atheists have an understanding of god as some sort of being in the sky who is omnipotent and interferes with this reality. This is not the case. God exists but his existence can only be experienced by an individual person. For a deeper dive I suggest reading Jung. Regarding Jesus, he likely existed
Then he is still evil. Because we are evil
 
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LaughingGoat

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Apr 11, 2024
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Then he is still evil. Because we are evil
Labelling humans an "evil" is as much of a human construct as the idea of a god. There is nothing in biology, physics, metaphysics, etc. that shows any indication that such concepts as good or evil exist. It's attributes we give to things as a judgement to fit into a decided system of ethics. We are animals which had the misfortunate evolutionary development of a brain that can create and analyze abstracts. Believing that there are gods which created us without any evidence or that humans are evil as opposed to self-satisfying animals which often choose their own needs over others, i.e. like every living being in existence, is a rationalization for why suffering occurs. It's understandable to want to make sense of it in that way, but it's a coping mechanism that is denying the reality of the universe: that it is mindless and without guidance.
 
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davidtorez

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If something like god exists- omnipotent, omniscient, etc, it is completely incomprehensible to human beings, totally outside the bounds of our limited existence.
And most importantly it is unfalsifiable. Especially a being that is timeless , immaterial and doesn't interact with our reality in any detectable way.
 
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I've heard of it. But it still suggests there is a good one that is like being suppressed

I simply can't believe such a thing. Some higher, evil power has to exist
Why haven't scientists been able to detect god, a soul .afterlife , reincarnation etc with all the technology and instruments? Because none of that exists.

so there's a soul in every human supposedely but no one has ever even detected any traces of the soul like an energy field , energy source , waves, no source of intelligent pattern communication, nothing ever,

same thing for god etc. why is god hiding? why are spirits , souls, ghosts the afterlife riencarnation hiding?

Why hasn't anyone ever taken a video of any god , soul , spirit , afterlife , ghost, reincarnation etc ? how many billions of people have a smartphone and video everything . we'd have to believe with all those billions of camera phones that someone would have caught a ghost / soul or god one time . but no never because none of that exists . because none of that exists. they haven't even tried to fake anything with special effects or ai. no scientist would ever take a fake video of a ghost or god or afterlife seriously. i'll certainly never believe in any afterlife , reincarnation, god, soul etc.
 
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bandigna

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You already know life suck. Life is evil, the usally. But I personally cannot shake this feeling that there is meaning to it. Like really evil meaning. No existence like this just happens. It's to evil. It has to be a creation. Chaos dose not make endless suffering. I struggle everyday this idea. It's the main reason I want to die.
God Is love. And i found him 5 years ago in my room where i opened my hands at my lowest point, where there was No other help and said jesus . Then one more time from my Heart and there i encoutered him. God is real. The bible is real. The bible says If you search for him you will find him.
 
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Nov 4, 2023
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The Bible is the most researched book ever. Even academic atheists believe Jesus exsited, but do not believe He is God.

There's no god , afterlife, reincarnation, soul , spirit , magic , ghosts , etc

You have to give massive objective , quantifiable, measurable, detailed evidence to show something exists.
Historical events are not measured with the same criteria as science. No one now is alive when many historical events happened so you have to base it on different criteria. As I mentioned above, no book has been scrutinized as much as the Bible. In fact science is proving many of the things the Bible said happened.

There's no god , afterlife, reincarnation, soul , spirit , magic , ghosts , etc

You have to give massive objective , quantifiable, measurable, detailed evidence to show something exists.

Saying something like a god, soul afterlife exists is a very abstract subjective idea. For example What a soul , god , or afterlife means is different to every human

People will go huh? And have never answered my following questions:
What is the soul? What is the power source for the soul? What other animals have a soul? Who or how was the soul created what is the mechanism? Why would something create a soul?
Describe the soul . Were does it reside . Give a precise definition.
A soul is simply a living person. In fact many Christians believe we do not have souls but are a soul What other animal has a soul, I believe the Bible says all animals have souls. God created the soul as He created everything.. Since the soul is a living person it resides everywhere inside us.
 
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doneforlife

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Jul 18, 2023
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The Bible is the most researched book ever. Even academic atheists believe Jesus exsited, but do not believe He is God.


Historical events are not measured with the same criteria as science. No one now is alive when many historical events happened so you have to base it on different criteria. As I mentioned above, no book has been scrutinized as much as the Bible. In fact science is proving many of the things the Bible said happened.


A soul is simply a living person. In fact many Christians believe we do not have souls but are a soul What other animal has a soul, I believe the Bible says all animals have souls. God created the soul as He created everything.. Since the soul is a living person it resides everywhere inside us.
Why did God create a Soul ?
I used to want to be reincarnated as a housecat, but now I think that it's a bad idea. If you're alive, you'll inevitably suffer no matter what. I don't want to be reincarnated ever again. My goal is to escape the cycle

Wdym? What feeling?
How to escape the cycle?
Plenty of answers to your questions if you are willing to read and inform yourself. There are very old texts explaining these sorts of things. You aren't going to find them in scientific journals
Where are these answers? Especially looking for the reason of creating souls ...
 
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