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Roseate

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You don't know what love is? Have you received unconditional love?
No such thing as unconditional romantic love. If parents can't love their children unconditionally then how can a partner do that? It's just not reality. It's a fantasy for a reason.
 
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no none of my accounts. I'm sorry, but we can wait till you can pm. i really wanted to talk to you.
Okay. Thanks for trying. It means a lot to me.
No such thing as unconditional romantic love. If parents can't love their children unconditionally then how can a partner do that? It's just not reality. It's a fantasy for a reason.
I am someone who can love unconditionally.
no none of my accounts. I'm sorry, but we can wait till you can pm. i really wanted to talk to you.

I want to talk to you too. I am grateful that you went ahead and created a new ID for me. I don't think someone ever did something like that. That mere thought makes me feel happy and I wish to talk to you soon. You are a beautiful soul
no none of my accounts. I'm sorry, but we can wait till you can pm. i really wanted to talk to you.

You had dinner ?
 
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Yeah, except reproduction doesn't require romantic love...

On the strictest level, all it requires is a bonk on. But we're a social species and primarily a monogamous one where the young are raised by both parents. Romantic love is what cements the bond between the two would-be parents.

You can poo poo that if you want but I'd say where that's gone awry is a big culprit for progeny ending up on sites such as this.
 
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Okay. Thanks for trying. It means a lot to me.

I am someone who can love unconditionally.


I want to talk to you too. I am grateful that you went ahead and created a new ID for me. I don't think someone ever did something like that. That mere thought makes me feel happy and I wish to talk to you soon. You are a beautiful soul


You had dinner ?
no, you?
 
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Roseate

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Okay. Thanks for trying. It means a lot to me.

I am someone who can love unconditionally.


I want to talk to you too. I am grateful that you went ahead and created a new ID for me. I don't think someone ever did something like that. That mere thought makes me feel happy and I wish to talk to you soon. You are a beautiful soul
There is no such thing. You are planning on killing yourself, right? Let's be brutally honest. The depression will take a toll on whoever we end up with, and after a while, they will leave because it will start to feel like a burden to them. No amount of love is enough to suffer. You're not going to be a 100 and no one deserves less than that. Anyone who loves themselves couldn't be able to love unconditionally because that means you will suffer for love, you will allow any mistreatment. And when it gets too much for you, you will selfishly kill yourself. That's totally loving unconditionally. We love to use that word wrong. It was never meant for romantic love. It was meant for parental love and let's face it, parents love conditionally. And even if you could, no one else will. Not even on here. A bunch of damage souls, and let's face it hurt people hurt people whether intentional or unintentional. It happens and there's no way to stop it. Thinking like that is honestly immature. It's not possible especially in these times.
 
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There is no such thing. You are planning on killing yourself, right? Let's be brutally honest. The depression will take a toll on whoever we end up with, and after a while, they will leave because it will start to feel like a burden to them. No amount of love is enough to suffer. You're not going to be a 100 and no one deserves less than that. Anyone who loves themselves couldn't be able to love unconditionally because that means you will suffer for love, you will allow any mistreatment. And when it gets too much for you, you will selfishly kill yourself. That's totally loving unconditionally. We love to use that word wrong. It was never meant for romantic love. It was meant for parental love and let's face it, parents love conditionally. And even if you could, no one else will. Not even on here. A bunch of damage souls, and let's face it hurt people hurt people whether intentional or unintentional. It happens and there's no way to stop it. Thinking like that is honestly immature. It's not possible especially in these times.

I don't think i have the capacity to think so much. I am damaged enough already and i want to be nice to people. I understand it's a difficult thing to do, but it's my last wish and I want to do it with all my heart. Even if it last for some time, it would be a nice memory to cherish and give it to someone. I have been bullied when I was young, man handled, beaten , abused. I have only wanted to be kind towards people because i know how it feels to be left, rejected, and betrayed.

You are more intelligent than me, at all levels, and I am thankful to you for explaining this to me. I don't know how can I Thank you for spending time on me and my thoughts.

Yes. I went to see a friend of mine, we had few beers and watched the soccer match and then I took the bus back home.
I don't think i have the capacity to think so much. I am damaged enough already and i want to be nice to people. I understand it's a difficult thing to do, but it's my last wish and I want to do it with all my heart. Even if it last for some time, it would be a nice memory to cherish and give it to someone. I have been bullied when I was young, man handled, beaten , abused. I have only wanted to be kind towards people because i know how it feels to be left, rejected, and betrayed.

You are more intelligent than me, at all levels, and I am thankful to you for explaining this to me. I don't know how can I Thank you for spending time on me and my thoughts.


Yes. I went to see a friend of mine, we had few beers and watched the soccer match and then I took the bus back home.

I think I will sleep now. Talk to you tomorrow?
 
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On the strictest level, all it requires is a bonk on. But we're a social species and primarily a monogamous one where the young are raised by both parents. Romantic love is what cements the bond between the two would-be parents.

You can poo poo that if you want but I'd say where that's gone awry is a big culprit for progeny ending up on sites such as this.
First off, whether or not we are a monogamous species is actually a highly debated topic with no clear answers. Some researchers say yes while others say no and that our practice of monogamy is more based on religion and culture, rather than biology.

Secondly, being a social species has nothing to do with romantic love. Us being a social species has more to do with us being genetically inclined to group together and interact with one another.

Thirdly, romantic love doesn't mean anything when it comes to parenting. If I remember correctly, most older societies prior to and some post-agricultural eras usually had a "it takes a village to raise a child" mentality. The whole two-parent nuclear household thing is a fairly recent phenomenon and doesn't even apply to all societies. In a lot of cultures around the world, both in the past and today, you will find grandparents, aunts, uncles, friends, and even neighbours playing a role in raising the children in their community.

Romantic love isn't special dude. I understand that you were likely raised to believe otherwise, but it's true.
 
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Good for you. You're wrong but we'll leave it there.
 
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somerandomguy1

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Oct 21, 2023
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Okay my eyes are shutting.

Listen to these songs by Sasha Sloan, they are amazing.

* Dancing with your ghost
* Until it happens to you

Good night. Take care. See you
 
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Linalez

Linalez

Born F 37 looking for a born F lesbian B4 I ctb
Oct 14, 2023
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Wouldn't that be kind of unfair or maybe a bit selfish? To allow someone to have feelings for you knowing you're going to break their hearts in the worse way possible? By dying? You'll be passing your pain onto them, idk it's nice if you have it but it just seems cruel to put a random person just trying to live and love through all that.

Well, do you realise where he is posting and how open he is about his issues?

The lady is supposed to know, right?

Maybe they'll end up ctb together, have you thought about that one?



Also, why shouldn't we have romantic relationships when we have parents, coworkers, relatives, maybe friends.

You are just requiring us to live a very isolated life, where we have to cut everyone, increase our mental issues while waiting for a method, which is not easy to find. Can last from 1 to 5 years like that before we find a partner, or before we beat SI.

Let them hug, kiss, go to the movies, have some satisfaction before they die.

They deserve it, dont you think :)
 
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Oct 2, 2019
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I agree with OP. For 22 years I've been denied that feeling of being cared about that I deserve so much.
 
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Boardwalk

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Oct 12, 2023
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I can sympathize, I asked a girl out for the first time in 5 years and it ended horribly. I always thought that would be the one thing I was missing that would give me purpose, I hope you can find it in the end.
 
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リンさん

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Sep 9, 2023
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You know, I've never really understood why people are so obsessed with romantic love. It's not like it's any better or any more special than any other type of love. The only difference is that we as a society have decided to put it on a pedestal. My dad has a similar mindset to you when it comes to love and all it has led him to is a series of failing relationships, some of which are toxic and/or abusive. Hence why wish he would take a break from romantic relationships altogether... Either way, whether or not you get a girlfriend or not isn't going to make much of a difference. Once you are dead you won't care, and that's the beauty of it.
Are you sure it really is the mindset that led to toxic relationships, or some other factors that can be very present in platonic couples too? I'm not saying that desperation can't lead to bad choices, but it's a bit silly to discard other things that could be at play.

Something being special or not special at all is very relative. Romantic relationships provide a unique type of bond that can't really be achieved in friendships or other. It is absolutely a social construct, and while you don't have to abide by it or accept it, just because it's made up doesn't mean it can't be fulfilling or important.

While loving and being loved won't make a difference after you're dead, I think it's perfectly understandable to want to die knowing you've achieved your biggest life goal.
 
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@Some place nice Morning.
How are you doing?

I woke up nice and feeling good, had breakfast and it seems the Universe wants me to have a good day today, it's nice and sunny.
Did you hear the songs I suggested to you?
 
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@Some place nice Morning.
How are you doing?

I woke up nice and feeling good, had breakfast and it seems the Universe wants me to have a good day today, it's nice and sunny.
Did you hear the songs I suggested to you?
I'm glad the universe is on your side today! I did and I really like dancing with your ghost. I'm good just getting ready for a vacation.
 
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NIce to know you liked it. Yes, I keep listening to dancing with your ghost all the time when I am traveling. The music makes me feel at ease and it just describes a bit of how I feel.

So you will be going on vacation? I am happy for you, also sad, that I will miss talking to you.

Thanks. I joined the telegram channel.
I assume you name is the same?
 
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Well, do you realise where he is posting and how open he is about his issues?

The lady is supposed to know, right?

Maybe they'll end up ctb together, have you thought about that one?



Also, why shouldn't we have romantic relationships when we have parents, coworkers, relatives, maybe friends.

You are just requiring us to live a very isolated life, where we have to cut everyone, increase our mental issues while waiting for a method, which is not easy to find. Can last from 1 to 5 years like that before we find a partner, or before we beat SI.

Let them hug, kiss, go to the movies, have some satisfaction before they die.

They deserve it, dont you think :)
No one deserves anything. You should know that. And let's face it, I'm going to be brutally honest here once again. No relationship made through this website is going to last, it's never going to be actual love or make it outside of this website. And don't forget, I am part of the us. That's why I realize it's selfish and cruel. Going to the movies is one thing, actual love is another. I think most of us will never experience actual pure love. That's what I believe. And I don't think we deserve anything more than humans rights, not even happiness cuz if we did, we wouldn't have to fight so hard for it. I stand by what I said and I said what I said with the knowledge of my mental illness and understanding. It's not based on delusions. Even people with mental issues can feel burdened with our mental issues. And not every mentally ill folks are depressed and I'm going to say something that might trigger some people but not everyone on this app is going to actually ctb or die, so yes I stand by what I said.
 
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No one deserves anything. You should know that. And let's face it, I'm going to be brutally honest here once again. No relationship made through this website is going to last, it's never going to be actual love or make it outside of this website. And don't forget, I am part of the us. That's why I realize it's selfish and cruel. Going to the movies is one thing, actual love is another. I think most of us will never experience actual pure love. That's what I believe. And I don't think we deserve anything more than humans rights, not even happiness cuz if we did, we wouldn't have to fight so hard for it. I stand by what I said and I said what I said with the knowledge of my mental illness and understanding. It's not based on delusions. Even people with mental issues can feel burdened with our mental issues. And not every mentally ill folks are depressed and I'm going to say something that might trigger some people but not everyone on this app is going to actually ctb or die, so yes I stand by what I said.
I know we all have suicidal thoughts, in a way I feel your pain and I have mental issues too. I can't say you are wrong because you are very much right in your space and mind to say this and this is your experience of things. But, in general, everyone has their own experiences and their own verion of what is right and wrong. For me, there is no right and wrong, it's just how we react to certain emotions and circumstances that make us feel and behave in a certain way. Similarly, love is an emotion and like every other emotion it won't last forever, but, they say if you have it at least once it's a good thing to have. I wish I could hug you, and take you out for a beer. You deserve better.
 
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pearlfountain

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Oct 24, 2023
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finding love just means losing love

i was far happier before
 
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Argo

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May 19, 2018
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We can't give love. Our species, but also us, ourselves. We imagine we can. We also imagine someone else is out there, some perfect ideal person-- but this is a fictional idea. The reality is, we are wanting creatures. We want to feel good. We are inherently selfish, we say, "if *only* there were someone out there who would just love me and accept me, then I could finally feel good". But that is not how it works. It sounds so logical , but it's just confused. Why?
Because WE cannot love and accept ourselves. If we cannot, then we cannot possibly be someone who can be loved and accepted. Because our own rejection or refusal to accept ourselves will ultimately be mirrored by out potential partner. And this will cause a divide and a separation and an unconnectivity that is required for a bond. It's deeper than that, there are countless ways we as a special struggle to connect. We try to be someone who is likeable, which is of course wrong, because that's not genuine, we are not being ourselves, we're putting on some act, some performance. This includes appearing a certain way, acting a certain way, not saying things that are on our mind which would poison the conversation we have. All of this is just mentally ill human connection gymnastics, and it poisons the whole process. We are a broken species and love is a fictional idea only found in books, movies, shows, etc. It takes a super-human being , no longer recognizable as human, to love.
 

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