I might be banned for this

[huinita]

I know it's hard, but try to ignore and live.

As "Marcus Aurelius" said when tucking in your child, imagine them dying at the moment.

No matter what you are going through, think on something worse.

Think of losing it all.

Think of being indebt.

Think of losing all your loved ones.

The essence of life is suffering.

Fuck the people, live your life on your own terms.

Be in crazy love with yourself, think of yourself as a form of an higher human being that needs to be protected and anything you that you do you are the best.

I know that parents can be bad, friends can hurt you, you can lose your job, you can lose everything.

Depression is not caused by anything but hopelessness.

Get knowledge about your situation...just live guys.

I was once down for years with depression, trauma, low self esteem and addiction

I didn't go to therapy, I just see my self as a work in progress.

You are different guys, you see what others can't see, you have a third eye.

Prove the monster wrong.

It doesn't get better, you just emulate a better mindset and identity

I love you all .

 

[Deleted member 65988]

I understand your sentiment but this type of post is better left for the recovery thread. Also, No offense but I've just about had enough of drivel like this but again, it may help others who care to listen to it.

 

[Lullaby]

I think it's sweet to try and help, but this comes off pretty dismissive.

I know that parents can be bad, friends can hurt you, you can lose your job, you can lose everything.

Depression is not caused by anything but hopelessness.

You truly don't know everyone on here, their situations, their problems, etc.

Some people are dealing with severe trauma, horrible and abusive home situations, homelessness, terminal illnesses, lack of support, etc.

I hate playing the pain olympics; things can be worse, but that doesn't change what anyone is currently struggling with, nor does it have anything to do with us personally.

I try to be grateful, because I know I may have it better than someone else, but I've also been fighting trauma and depression since I was a child. It's a hell I wouldn't wish on anyone else.

I don't want to be an asshole because I'm open to all viewpoints and feel like everyone should be heard. Someone here might actually appreciate this post and they deserve to hear something encouraging, but you have to understand that things are much more complex for a lot of people here.

 

[CloudyNightSky]

I get what you mean but what if someone just can't keep going anymore. No offence but just to let you know, all these messages to keep going and stuff just tell people to keep suffering. If someone makes the decision impulsive and with a lot emotion involved maybe it's better to stop them, but if someones suffering for years and maybe also tried a lot like therapy and stuff, but nothing helps and this person feels like shit 24/7 and after all this suffering society tells them to keep living somehow. But if you don't work you get thrown in the trash and everyones tells you you're lazy and all this shit.

Sorry if I got a little bit emotional there, but yeah it's sweet you're worried about others but not everyone wants to suffer and maybe at some point prefer to not exist instead to feel the pain every damn day.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

I hate playing the pain olympics; things can be worse, but that doesn't change what anyone is currently struggling with, nor does it have anything to do with us personally.

It also feels invalidating to our each of our own respective problems, it never changes how much it impacts what we each have to deal with on our own.

 

[Photographer Fizzle]

I know it's hard, but try to ignore and live.

As "Marcus Aurelius" said when tucking in your child, imagine them dying at the moment.

No matter what you are going through, think on something worse.

Think of losing it all.

Think of being indebt.

Think of losing all your loved ones.

The essence of life is suffering.

Fuck the people, live your life on your own terms.

Be in crazy love with yourself, think of yourself as a form of an higher human being that needs to be protected and anything you that you do you are the best.

I know that parents can be bad, friends can hurt you, you can lose your job, you can lose everything.

Depression is not caused by anything but hopelessness.

Get knowledge about your situation...just live guys.

I was once down for years with depression, trauma, low self esteem and addiction

I didn't go to therapy, I just see my self as a work in progress.

You are different guys, you see what others can't see, you have a third eye.

Prove the monster wrong.

It doesn't get better, you just emulate a better mindset and identity

I love you all .

i'm in debt and have no loved ones.
where's your insight now?

 

[singularity3]

Go to Tiktok

 

[WonderingSoul]

I do appreciate what you are doing, but these kind of sentiments won't help me in my situation.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

The reactions so far truly reiterate that this type of post is better off on the recovery section.

You are different guys, you see what others can't see, you have a third eye.

Prove the monster wrong.

And also, what does this even mean?

What monster and what 3rd eye, none of this makes any coherent sense.

 

[Fire]

as someone with incurable physical health problems that cause me a significant amount of pain, this comes across as dismissive and does the opposite of what you intended.

 

[SleepySept]

You also have to consider there's people with physical disabilities that make their daily lives hell. "It can always get worse" but you need to have empathy that there's people here actually living that kind of worse.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Think of losing it all.

Think of being indebt.

Think of losing all your loved ones.

The essence of life is suffering.

Some of us are already at a point where one of these are the reason we are here and for those of us that aren't, why should we think of those things to make us feel better, suffering from life aside from how things could get worse is a big reason why we are here.

It is seriously dismissive which shows me you didn't quite try to get understanding of how it would impact users here before you sent it, thinking it would do exactly what you wanted. Telling people to just "live" and fuck the world, live life the way you want is absurd, right up there with the common sorely misplaced platitudes.

 

[huinita]

You're like an anti abortionist protester protesting outside an abortion clinic to those coming there in need having already came to an informed and difficult decision so no offence but

This is different though.
This site is for people with depression, s*****de, mental health issues, and anything about that.
Not everyone wanna ctb here.
If it's not for you, then view and leave, I get your point no offense.

 

[Yaffle]

I know it's hard, but try to ignore and live.

As "Marcus Aurelius" said when tucking in your child, imagine them dying at the moment.

No matter what you are going through, think on something worse.

Think of losing it all.

Think of being indebt.

Think of losing all your loved ones.

The essence of life is suffering.

Fuck the people, live your life on your own terms.

Be in crazy love with yourself, think of yourself as a form of an higher human being that needs to be protected and anything you that you do you are the best.

I know that parents can be bad, friends can hurt you, you can lose your job, you can lose everything.

Depression is not caused by anything but hopelessness.

Get knowledge about your situation...just live guys.

I was once down for years with depression, trauma, low self esteem and addiction

I didn't go to therapy, I just see my self as a work in progress.

You are different guys, you see what others can't see, you have a third eye.

Prove the monster wrong.

It doesn't get better, you just emulate a better mindset and identity

I love you all .

As others have said please take this to the recovery board.

I appreciate you mean well but wrong place my friend. Read the room, this is a pro choice suicide forum.

I'm all for supporting individuals on a 1 to 1 basis if they appear to need/want it but not your blanket pro life spiel.

Sorry, just no.

 

[huinita]

As others have said please take this to the recovery board.

I appreciate you mean well but wrong place my friend. Read the room, this is a pro choice suicide forum.

I'm all for supporting individuals on a 1 to 1 basis if they appear to need/want it but not your blanket pro life spiel.

Sorry, just no.

Okay

 

[tiger b]

Be in crazy love with yourself, think of yourself as a form of an higher human being that needs to be protected and anything you that you do you are the best.

I know that parents can be bad, friends can hurt you, you can lose your job, you can lose everything.

Depression is not caused by anything but hopelessness.

Get knowledge about your situation...

Well that's it guys and girls, pick up your mat and walk! Problem solved, close the forum.

I think you lack knowledge about my situation, and many other people's here.

What you say about depression is not always true and there are physiological reasons why that is.

The first thing you say is just lie to oneself. This is like believing a useful lie. There is psychology behind that - like in Bandler and Grinder - but I doubt you've gone that deep. So don't try and school me.

Then you follow that with quite an understatement. My parents were 'bad'. Thanks for the japery. It made me cackle.

Now you can funnel pop-psychology to yourself and if it works, great. I've chewed up and spat out that, and more but miracle cure it is not. Hell, I could get fortune cookies better than what you just spewed out.

I think you knew what you were doing. Noone could be that dense not to read the room.

As Maximus Farticus said, when he felt the hand of death upon him, "Fuck off".

 

[Deleted member 65988]

@huinita I hope you take this as a learning experience, I hope this doesn't put you off from having future discussions.

 

[huinita]

@huinita I hope you take this as a learning experience, I hope this doesn't put you off from having future discussions.

Thanks, it won't


@tiger b this site isn't only about ctb, people come here for the reason of "community" someone to talk to

Go to Tiktok

Chill

as someone with incurable physical health problems that cause me a significant amount of pain, this comes across as dismissive and does the opposite of what you intended.

Okay, pm

 

[tiger b]

Thanks, it won't


@tiger b this site isn't only about ctb, people come here for the reason of "community" someone to talk to

I don't need to be lectured by you. You're too busy being 'crazy in love with yourself' to debate anything. And don't quote forum rules to me when you've read nothing.

What do you think you're going to tell them they haven't heard before? Obvious troll is obvious.

Now shouldn't you be off to Gaza to tell them to use their third eye?

Cheerio, kiss yourself

 

[huinita]

He/she will probably suggest next that you have a friend in Jesus and to embrace in the love of god.

Nah

 

[notevenhere]

that's all fine and dandy but i have cptsd, experienced csa, regular sa, have a narcissist mother, a drug addict father who refuses to help, years worth of more sexual trauma from sex work, lost like two loved ones this year, has disabilities, a string of mental disorders that makes connecting with anyone almost impossible, financial instability — I can go on.

but yeah, people have it worse than me, fuck my trauma! let's invalidate everything I've been through, wooo!

 

[huinita]

I don't need to be lectured by you. You're too busy being 'crazy in love with yourself' to debate anything. And don't quote forum rules to me when you've read nothing.

Now shouldn't you be off to Gaza to tell them to use their third eye?

Cheerio

Lol, I am a veteran.
Served for 5 years in the air force

Lol, I am a veteran.
Served for 5 years in the air force

I served in Nigeria...
It's interesting seeing this.

 

[tiger b]

It's interesting seeing this

It's too obvious why you're here.

I couldn't care less what you served.

 

[huinita]

Lol, I am a veteran.
Served for 5 years in the air force

I served in Nigeria...
It's interesting seeing this.

The world is corrupt.
I risked my life and my crew, because of the Marshal's personal gain...
And innocent killed by mere mistake..
I served for years in the military because I was lost in life needed brotherhood also.

It's too obvious why you're here.

Took it the wrong way

that's all fine and dandy but i have cptsd, experienced csa, regular sa, have a narcissist mother, a drug addict father who refuses to help, years worth of more sexual trauma from sex work, lost like two loved ones this year, has disabilities, a string of mental disorders that makes connecting with anyone almost impossible, financial instability — I can go on.

but yeah, people have it worse than me, fuck my trauma! let's invalidate everything I've been through, wooo!

Sad, feel bad for your experience
@tiger b I meant no harm though.
But if you are interested, I lost my family members due to conflicts.
We went on a raid in the military, just to discover it was a wrong community.
I couldn't eat for days my eyes wide open, the news covered it up.
I k**led locals man.
And what made it go on for so long was the fact that they attempted to fight back.
This broke me for months, it went on until I quit on a fake health issue claim.
I can go on and on...

The world is corrupt.
I risked my life and my crew, because of the Marshal's personal gain...
And innocent killed by mere mistake..
I served for years in the military because I was lost in life needed brotherhood also.

Took it the wrong way

Sad, feel bad for your experience
@tiger b I meant no harm though.
But if you are interested, I lost my family members due to conflicts.
We went on a raid in the military, just to discover it was a wrong community.
I couldn't eat for days my eyes wide open, the news covered it up.
I k**led locals man.
And what made it go on for so long was the fact that they attempted to fight back.
This broke me for months, it went on until I quit on a fake health issue claim.
I can go on and on...

@tiger b 17 of us in the squad on 2 left now
4 ctbied..
10 fell in the war
And the last guy went missing, he probably ran away..

 

[Abandoned Character]

I saw a post created less than 2 hours ago with 24 replies and I thought I was reading something wrong. And then it became clear this post was originally in the other section--a classic case of why rage bait is so effective.

As "Marcus Aurelius" said when tucking in your child, imagine them dying at the moment.

Sidenote, I'm pretty sure this was Epictetus, not Aurelius.

 

[huinita]

I saw a post created less than 2 hours ago with 24 replies and I thought I was reading something wrong. And then it became clear this post was originally in the other section--a classic case of why rage bait is so effective.


Sidenote, I'm pretty sure this was Epictetus, not Aurelius.

My bad

You also have to consider there's people with physical disabilities that make their daily lives hell. "It can always get worse" but you need to have empathy that there's people here actually living that kind of worse.

This is a sad issue.
And I genuinely fell bad..
People with disability are most times seen as liability.
And left alone..
This is a huge issue.
I am currently partnering with youth president of ECOWAS, starting a project to help house people with disability, if there is a cure we plan on getting funded via donations and Government funding..to help..
The Government never show concern and this is a huge issue.
This is not to brag or something else..
The Society always fails to shed light on this issue.

A lot of displaced people, a lot of mentally challenged people...
But they all feel it's their "fate or bad luck"
I made that post not to prove I know better or some sh*t..
I made that post for some people here that need it.
No mental issue should be taken likely, as the hole is deep and steep, it just becomes worse...

 

[penguinl0v3s]

I'm pretty sure people hate general advice like this. I've gotten fed up with being given phone numbers to the suicide hotline for example. I'm sure you mean well, but everyone here has heard these words before. Many times, even. The problem is deeper than one inspirational message away.

For me, if I don't die, how else will I see my recovery buddy? He died. I wonder if he has consciousness. I wonder if dying will enable me to see him again.

 

[tiger b]

But if you are interested

I'm not.

There's nothing you can say that will shock me.

You can come to your own conclusions on that. I don't need to wave my own experiences around like qualifications so I can presume to help those I don't try to understand.

Shall I do the pro-life thing now and say 'get help' for your PTSD? That would be rather demeaning in a few ways...get my point, or not, it's up to you.

Let's leave it there.

 

[huinita]

Sidenote: I joined this community to understand other people problems better.
After lurking for days, it was just sad.

I'm not.

There's nothing you can say that will shock me.

You can come to your own conclusions on that. I don't need to wave my own experiences around like qualifications so I can presume to help those I don't try to understand.

Shall I do the pro-life thing now and say 'get help' for your PTSD? That would be rather demeaning in a few ways...get my point, or not, it's up to you.

Let's leave it there.

Don't be blind to what I meant.
The post isn't for everyone
@tiger b chill, read the full thread.
I stand on what I posted.
But open your eyes to understand.
Some here are depressed not s**icidal..
It's not for you then leave.
The only mistake I made was not posting in the "Recovery section"

 

[Kit1]

Huinita, I understand that upu thought you were helping. I have to be honest - I come to this forum.to be part of a community that understands that struggle to live and to die a 1000 deaths daily. I do feel hurt for the dismissive manner in which you have tried to reach out - I hear your pain, but we all experience pain differently and please do not belittle or judge other people's pain. We all have our own struggles and paths and if people start to feel that this is no longer a safe space, there is a strongbpossi ility that we will end up dead sooner than later which defeats your purpose anyway. The recovery thread is a much better place for you to be. Good Luck.