Anónimo

Anónimo

Student
Oct 15, 2021
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Hello. Objectively speaking, I don't have any good reasons to want to ctb (might give details laters). From what I see, most people here has had some SA experience or loneliness/abuse throughout their life. This really makes me feel pathetic, like I'm a snowflake. I know this probably should be in the "venting" section, but I wonder if someone feels a bit like this.
 
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sannoji

sannoji

dreaming of flying
May 4, 2023
55
the way i see it, you never need a "valid reason" for you to be depressed, sometimes it's just a thing that you end up with. i can see how feeling like you don't have one can feel really invalidating though. even if you truly don't feel you have any underlying cause, it's still not over-sensitive or anything for you to feel that way.

as a sidenote though, could it be possible you might be downplaying negative experiences to yourself because of the idea that "others have it worse"? i know i used to do this when thinking about emotional abuse i'd experienced. again, i won't ask you to share why you feel this way as some sort of judgement whether it's okay, since it isn't sensitive to feel that way no matter the reason, but it could be something to think about.
 
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Linda

Linda

Member
Jul 30, 2020
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Hello. Objectively speaking, I don't have any good reasons to want to ctb (might give details laters). From what I see, most people here has had some SA experience or loneliness/abuse throughout their life. This really makes me feel pathetic, like I'm a snowflake. I know this probably should be in the "venting" section, but I wonder if someone feels a bit like this.
If you feel that it's time to go, and you feel that way most of the time, then you dont need any more reason.
 
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kelo

kelo

Member
Apr 18, 2023
8
I feel the same way. I do have extreme eating disorder which makes my life suck so bad but that's not my reason to originally be depressed it is my way to cope through depression that has no reason.
Idk if this makes any sense even.
 
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hiddenbpd

✌🏼
Oct 19, 2022
196
I feel the same. I have mostly everything anyone could ever want, but it really doesn't matter. If anything, it makes me more suicidal because I feel bad for feeling bad when I shouldn't. If I could gift my life to someone who deserves it and would cherish it, I absolutely would.
 
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flapjax

flapjax

Seeking peace
May 13, 2023
16
I truly believe I was born depressed and all of my choices have been responses to that. I now have reasons but for years I wanted to die without knowing why, and I know how it feels. No one else needs to validate your depression, others having it worse doesn't mean everything's fine for you.
 
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Das Nichts

Das Nichts

Dead Man Walking
Apr 8, 2023
521
Dude you need to relax, you came to the suicide section of a forum to discuss your struggle.
There is no better time to stop comparing yourself to others and putting yourself down than now!
 
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UKscotty

Doesn't read PMs
May 20, 2021
2,450
I think anyone who wakes up to the reality of the world has every right to want to CTB.

99% of us are slaves to capitalism so that 1% can live in obscene luxury. People think they are free, but ask them to quit the job or stop paying bills, their eyes soon open.
 
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BetweenRadioStations

BetweenRadioStations

Student
Aug 10, 2021
134
Sometimes I feel like this since in many ways my external world is that of which mortals beg for but I've also come to realize in my experience depression is not a logical thing.
 
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timetodie24

Enlightened
Apr 14, 2023
1,054
Same. I had a stable and happy childhood, loving family, no major trauma, no abuse. I was bullied but plenty kids are.

Always feel guilty that I've had support from mental health services. Eventhough it hasn't helped, I've used up a lot of appointments, even a psych bed at one point. Yet there's people who've have so much worse and can't get any support.

Only makes me want to ctb more. People endure worse lives but can't even manage an easy one
 
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niawscm

Member
May 6, 2023
28
I completely understand where you're coming from. Superficially I look like I'm doing well relative to a lot of people, but what no one else understands is what a complete and utter worthless failure I am.
All I can tell you is that there's no right or wrong reason to be down or depressed. Everything is relative. If someone in the UK loses their job and apartment and spouse and is suddenly living on the street, would you tell that person they have no right to be depressed because people in Ukraine live in a war zone and have it much worse?
 
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Ginnn

Ginnn

Student
Aug 20, 2022
123
El sufrimiento no se puede resumir en hechos, alguien que tuvo una vida violenta puede terminar sufriendo lo mismo que alguien que vive una vida "normal". Así es como funciona el cerebro. No se necesitan otras razones además de simplemente no disfrutar la vida, así que no te preocupes por eso
 
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Angi

Specialist
Jan 4, 2022
305
I suspect the feeling you describe is not tied to the objective history of the person. I do have a bunch of what you call "good reasons to want to ctb", yet I still feel like a fraud, to weak to endure my life.

There is no better time to stop comparing yourself to others and putting yourself down than now!
Good point. This might help.
 
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CentreMid

CentreMid

Sorry
Aug 23, 2018
478
Hello. Objectively speaking, I don't have any good reasons to want to ctb (might give details laters). From what I see, most people here has had some SA experience or loneliness/abuse throughout their life. This really makes me feel pathetic, like I'm a snowflake. I know this probably should be in the "venting" section, but I wonder if someone feels a bit like this.
I'm sorry you're feeling like this. I don't think any reason is "too big" or "too small" to want to ctb. There are lots of people who live what we would deem "normal" or "healthy" lives, who wish to die for their own personal reasons. If you want to ctb, then that's absolutely valid, you don't need to justify it, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
 
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scamper

scamper

Nice to meet you
Mar 31, 2023
66
I don't really have any particular reason to ctb, but I'll still do it; I prefer death to life. It's just another metaphorical road you can take like going to college or starting a new job. Some people want to work, some people want to study, we want to kill ourselves. Nothing wrong with that.
 
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NambaSutra

Student
Mar 25, 2023
190
A "valid reason" to be depressed is having brain wiring or neurochemistry that fails to produce the normal range of emotions.

It doesn't have to be money or fame or physical appearance or things a "normal person" would understand.

Hell, plenty of rich, famous, good looking people kill themselves.

Nobody can judge someone else's brain and feelings.
 
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Mywill

Mywill

Member
Feb 6, 2020
91
Why would you need a reason to be depressed ? Why would you care if you had it better or worse than any other ? Why there's a need to compare if we're equally depressed ?
 
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Ashu

Ashu

novelist, sanskritist, Canadian living in India
Nov 13, 2021
724
I feel the same. I have mostly everything anyone could ever want, but it really doesn't matter. If anything, it makes me more suicidal because I feel bad for feeling bad when I shouldn't. If I could gift my life to someone who deserves it and would cherish it, I absolutely would.
Well... maybe there is a sense in which you could do that. If you're lucky enough to find such a someone.
 
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charlotte_

charlotte_

Arcanist
Mar 12, 2023
435
There's no "valid reason" to be depressed. Depression can comes from anywhere and to everyone, no matter your age gender status ect. There are different kinds of reasons why people get depressed, but we all share one thing: to feel hopeless, to be conquered by emptiness and negativity and to desire a way to escape. As long as you suffer, than that's a valid reason
 
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goodrinker

New Member
Jul 9, 2023
1
I was looking for a thread about this. My reasons for feeling suicidal seem so much less valid than others who I know here and irl. I'm not dealing with anything close to cripplingly awful trauma or an objectively dire living situation. I'm just lonely and depressed but feel like I've always felt that way my entire life and despite years of continued effort it just seems like I will always keep feeling this way. My reasons for wanting to end it are quite simple and come down to me finally getting too tired of being myself. I can't keep being this person that I am and I can't keep trying to change who I am only to continue to realize over and over that my efforts failed and I am still this person with an appearance and outward personality that I do not identify with at all. It's hard to put into words what every day feels like. If you think of someone in your life who is profoundly unpleasant to be around but not because they're a jerk or because they're annoying, someone whose mere presence is totally soul-draining. That coworker or family member you dread to be around for longer than a minute because they have that specific kind of personality that immediately makes you feel tired and empty and frustrated. Imagine that this person is tied to you by a chain that is impossible to remove and so they have to stand next to you everywhere you go at all times and the only time you can fully forget they're there is when you're asleep. That's what it feels like to know I am me every day. On some days I think feeling this way would be enough to make anyone want to die but on other days it feels like maybe I'm weak or lazy because I'm reacting to my safe and mundane life the way someone who gets seriously abused and has no way of escaping does.
 
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アホペンギン

Jul 10, 2023
2,199
Hello. Objectively speaking, I don't have any good reasons to want to ctb (might give details laters). From what I see, most people here has had some SA experience or loneliness/abuse throughout their life. This really makes me feel pathetic, like I'm a snowflake. I know this probably should be in the "venting" section, but I wonder if someone feels a bit like this.
There is no such thing as an invalid reason to CTB. Whatever is bothering you should be ended, even if its a minor thing. People may find it to be not a big deal but if its you who is struggling then that is all that matters. I have experienced abuse in my life and i would've preferred it much more if i was in your situation, honestly.
 

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