Venting I hate when people say ignorant things like “if you really wanted to ctb you’d be already gone”

[FuneralCry]

I cannot stand those ignorant people who have no idea as to how difficult suicide truly is, if someone believes that suicide is easy they are either ignorant or lying. It's horrible enough how suicide is purposely made so difficult but it's even worse when insensitive humans say things like that, they clearly know nothing about suicide so they should just stay quiet.

It's just the reality that not everyone has the privilege of accessing reliable suicide methods in the first place, people cannot just choose to never wake, in fact as humans we are trapped inside this flesh prison that is programmed to survive with suicide methods purposely made as inaccessible as possible.

It really is such a hellish world where we cannot easily just die in peace, suicide barely even feels like an option when trying to die comes with complications and risks if people can even access methods in the first place.

I get that many people think that one can od on easily accessible pills and die instantly but sadly that isn't the reality. Suicide simply isn't easy and I wish people would realise that. It's so absurd to me when people act all confused by how one can hate life and still be breathing.

 

[Eumetazoa]

I agree and also think it's quite dehumanising. Our wish to ctb doesn't mean we must suffer to achieve that. Yet euthanasia is illegal almost everywhere.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

It's utterly infuriating when people do this.
They are both selfish and stupid, and are incapable of viewing life through the eyes of someone who is suffering.
Imagine if they had to live though the lives of many of the people on this forum just for one day.
They would soon change their deeply prejudiced and myopic view of suicidal people.

 

[voyager]

Indeed, they completely disregard the continuous struggle behind the facade and sacrifices made, not seldom for their benefit too, and no matter how meticulously one tries to explain one's issues they most often just don't get it, but then, when it does happen, "maybe they were trying to tell us something and serious after all...". Oh really??

 

[R_N]

Process of dying is rough. Some people want to die but they don't want to go through that process obviously.

 

[Nanidash]

Painful dilemma:
"Don't want to live, to afraid to die"

 

[MeltingBrain]

I cannot stand those ignorant people who have no idea as to how difficult suicide truly is, if someone believes that suicide is easy they are either ignorant or lying. It's horrible enough how suicide is purposely made so difficult but it's even worse when insensitive humans say things like that, they clearly know nothing about suicide so they should just stay quiet.

It's just the reality that not everyone has the privilege of accessing reliable suicide methods in the first place, people cannot just choose to never wake, in fact as humans we are trapped inside this flesh prison that is programmed to survive with suicide methods purposely made as inaccessible as possible.

It really is such a hellish world where we cannot easily just die in peace, suicide barely even feels like an option when trying to die comes with complications and risks if people can even access methods in the first place.

I get that many people think that one can od on easily accessible pills and die instantly but sadly that isn't the reality. Suicide simply isn't easy and I wish people would realise that. It's so absurd to me when people act all confused by how one can hate life and still be breathing.

I totally agree .
There are so many meta-factors which hold us from CTBing as well -
- We are afraid of what happens to our families/friends when we are gone (immediate short term trauma and long term psychological,monetary and social impact ) which holds us back
- Stuff like dropping property value .
- Trauma to first responders

 

[NeedAnEscape]

I totally agree .
There are so many meta-factors which hold us from CTBing as well -
- We are afraid of what happens to our families/friends when we are gone (immediate short term trauma and long term psychological,monetary and social impact ) which holds us back
- Stuff like dropping property value .
- Trauma to first responders

This. Nothing about suicide is simple.

 

[Forever Sleep]

It's actually an odd phrase really. I guess it's along the lines of 'The Boy who cried Wolf' as in- people get bored by those who keep threatening to kill themselves without succeeding. Really- they get bored listening to problems and negativity all the time too. Yet- on the other hand- they will be the ones to say- 'You must reach out and tell people'. Kind of ironic really.

 

[Dying Knight]

It's utterly infuriating when people do this.
They are both selfish and stupid, and are incapable of viewing life through the eyes of someone who is suffering.
Imagine if they had to live though the lives of many of the people on this forum just for one day.
They would soon change their deeply prejudiced and myopic view of suicidal people.

Well, I've experienced depression for >15 years, there were periods when I was suffering a lot, and this is actually the reason why I think that suicide is easy if you desire it strongly enough. You can call me stupid and selfish if you want, I don't mind that xD.

Process of dying is rough. Some people want to die but they don't want to go through that process obviously.

In other words, some people want to die in a luxurious way, not just die. The strength of the wish to die matters a lot. If your wish is strong, you won't bother about luxury. I know at least two painless and very reliable ways to kill myself that would cost me $5, but I'm not even sure if I prefer any of them over a more violent and unpleasant method when my life turns into an utter shit and I finally decide to do this.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

Well, I've experienced depression for >15 years, there were periods when I was suffering a lot, and this is actually the reason why I think that suicide is easy if you desire it strongly enough. You can call me stupid and selfish if you want, I don't mind that xD.

In other words, some people want to die in a luxurious way, not just die. The strength of the wish to die matters a lot. If your wish is strong, you won't bother about luxury. I know at least two painless and very reliable ways to kill myself that would cost me $5, but I'm not even sure if I prefer any of them over a more violent and unpleasant method when my life turns into an utter shit and I finally decide to do this.

Long. time sufferer of depression too, mine began age 7. Lucky me.

 

[R_N]

Well, I've experienced depression for >15 years, there were periods when I was suffering a lot, and this is actually the reason why I think that suicide is easy if you desire it strongly enough. You can call me stupid and selfish if you want, I don't mind that xD.

In other words, some people want to die in a luxurious way, not just die. The strength of the wish to die matters a lot. If your wish is strong, you won't bother about luxury. I know at least two painless and very reliable ways to kill myself that would cost me $5, but I'm not even sure if I prefer any of them over a more violent and unpleasant method when my life turns into an utter shit and I finally decide to do this.

So in other words none of us here want/wanted to die yet including yourself?

Maybe.

 

[ManByTheRiver]

Well, I've experienced depression for >15 years, there were periods when I was suffering a lot, and this is actually the reason why I think that suicide is easy if you desire it strongly enough. You can call me stupid and selfish if you want, I don't mind that xD.

In other words, some people want to die in a luxurious way, not just die. The strength of the wish to die matters a lot. If your wish is strong, you won't bother about luxury. I know at least two painless and very reliable ways to kill myself that would cost me $5, but I'm not even sure if I prefer any of them over a more violent and unpleasant method when my life turns into an utter shit and I finally decide to do this.

I do agree with this. If the will to die and the disregard for pain, looks and trauma you experience and leave behind are strong enough it is quite easy to die. But peaceful deaths are hard. Or "pretty" deaths. Which i guess is the point of FuneralCry, you have to suffer more to die and you want to die because you're suffering.

 

[Notwinnernotawin]

Same. I also hate it when ppl say that my depression is fake or that I don't want to kill myself. I MUST do it.

 

[Darkover]

i've been in pain everyday for the last 7 years due to a brain injury if i had N i would be long gone by now

 

[Dying Knight]

So in other words none of us here want/wanted to die yet including yourself?

The degree of how much we want to die is what matters in the first place, not just whether we have such a wish or not. When the desire to die is weak, a contradiction with other wishes may easily result in (possibly unrecognized) suicidal ambivalence.

 

[jinx <3]

People who don't struggle with this themselves only see suicide in the cases where it is successful. Also media portrayals don't help since characters have to kill themselves within the plot of the story, which is much shorter than feasible for most suicides. But yeah, I have felt cheated that leaving a shitty life is so hard. But perhaps that's for the best? We can spend more time extracting the good and warning about the bad, I guess. Best wishes to all, <3.

 

[アホペンギン]

Its very irritating when I hear someone say this, I wish they were capable of coming to terms with how hard it actually is to ctb, especially for people who are suffering in the process of planning everything out. It is very hard to ctb, I wish they weren't so ignorant and understood us.

 

[R_N]

The degree of how much we want to die is what matters in the first place, not just whether we have such a wish or not. When the desire to die is weak, a contradiction with other wishes may easily result in (possibly unrecognized) suicidal ambivalence.

I am not really sure it always works that way. There are plenty of desires we can have in life, some strong, but we never go for them or stop when things get uncomfortable or tough.

It is not as simple as having a strong desire and just do something imo.

 

[Dying Knight]

I am not really sure it always works that way. There are plenty of desires we can have in life, some strong, but we never go for them or stop when things get uncomfortable or tough.

It would be interesting to look at non-abstract factors that may overweight strong desire of death, except deprivation of means that could happen in a prison or a psych ward. I presume, most people here have access to easy, reliable, and even painless methods but they don't consider such methods seriously because of an obsession with their preferred method (such as pentobarbital overdose) which they can't use.

 

[martinso67]

In the right context that "saying" would have been true like being in Peru or other South American country with not strict access to medications. Or having the right shooting rifle.
Society says and repeats saying without knowing stuff. It's only sheep behaviour to feel better about themselves.

 

[suicidal flapper]

It's like they never consider that we have primal instincts that go against any urge to end one's life

 

[Amidaa]

yis this so true everyone that ever have talk to they just make a joke about it or just ignore it. like my dad i was just giving him hints a he just ignore it and start to talk about something else. it just unfair. if it was that easy i'm sure a lot people would already be done with it. but in reality it is not and sadly we have to go through more suffering to just achieve our peace. but we already suffer engouh no ? why can't they just let us have our wishes like they always say you are free to do with your body and mind what you want but when we want to end it all and be at peace it is a no go that is just pure evil they rather let us suffer or try to convince us to stay so just they feel better about themself. that is just pure ignorance and selfishness.

 

[Dara Argith]

The threshold must be met

 

[snowcloud9]

That's true. People say that a lot to you, don't they? Sorry you're subject to such criticism :/

 

[BloodyNobody]

My partner says this to me It's so frustrating, so I have to be dead for you to believe I genuinely want to die.

 

[icari]

Beyond the lack of concern and understanding one must have to make this statement, it's just completely stupid. Everyone who ever committed suicide existed and pondered the act before they did so. To fail to understand that just shows how truly alien the concept of suicide is to this person and that they are never going to be able to comprehend it. Perhaps more concerning is it seems to indicate that this person cannot really empathise that others also have a conscious thought process in the same way they do.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Saying this to a suicidal person is insulting. People who are not suicidal and never prepared a method for themselves have no idea how difficult it really is to do the last step. Just wanting to die doesn't mean it's easy.

 

[maka]

Had a literal PSYCHIATRIST say this to me while I was in the psych ward and it just made me feel 10x worse. Like damn dude I'm TRYING lol if only y'all anti suicide people didn't make it so damn hard.

 

[n4k1]

idk why but this reminded me of my attempt in middle school.
i tried overdosing and woke up the next day so disappointed, went to school and threw up all the pills.
when my mom asked me why i just shrugged and she said "if you really wanted to kill yourself you would've taken the whole bottle" thanks ma