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Tonight634

Tonight634

Member
Aug 24, 2020
94
They gave me life without asking me whether I even wanna be here just because of their selfish need to reproduce and feel complete and bla bla bla, and now here I am, I got the WORST genes from both of them, I'm not pretty enough, I'm not smart enough, I'm too emotional, too much of a burden, like it's your fucking genetics!!?! They can't wsit for me to grow up and get rid of me because I'm dumb and can't do anything well and won't be succesful, but I didn't fucking ask you zo have unprotected sex you ******* !!!
And the worst thing is, now I have to die by painfully hanging myself or suffocating myself to death....Nothing I do will ever be good enough for anyone and I just genuinely wanna die. I don't want life to be better, I wanna die. I want to hurt them just as much as they hurt me by bringing me here and then telling me that I'm not enough. I fucking hate you, from the bottom of my heart.
 
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MariV

Arcanist
Sep 13, 2020
487
so sorry. i think i also hate my parents for that same reason. but they didnt know you were going to be unhappy. they brought you to the world for having a good life
 
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JackieInTheBox

Member
Sep 24, 2020
59
That would be called Antinatalism. You can find similar opinions in Reddit.
 
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deleted

Warlock
Jul 31, 2020
715
welcome to the boat
 
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Valon

Member
Sep 14, 2020
70
My parents only had me so they could replace the child they had before me who died as an infant. Their first child's death was also a result of their incompetence.
 
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NeverGoodEnuff

Specialist
Sep 28, 2020
398
I do so understand what you are saying, thus my name choice. No matter how hard you try, no matter what you do, it's never good enough. Even if you ace something, well, that something isn't anything worthwhile so it doesn't matter. Once, in high school, I entered a regional poetry contest. My parents just rolled their eyes. When I came home with first prize, they just laughed. Yep. You are, however, smart because it took me until age 60+ to figure that out and you are so much younger! Smart person, I see. I wish I had known what you know at your age. Things would have been different, I think.

I often think suicide will show them how bad they are for treating me like they did, for pushing me to this point. But then I think they will just say, "See? She was crazy, just like we thought." I won't give them that satisfaction, if I can stand it. Still trying to figure that out.

I read a book that was a real eye opener about this, titled "Will I Ever Be Good Enough", available as ebook. A quote from it: There was a little girl who had a little curl right in the middle of her forehead and when she was good she was criticized anyway.

What I want on my grave marker is "She tried, she tried, she tried, she tried. And then she died." Except it's too long and won't fit. Meh.

I am so sorry for you, for all of us. It's not supposed to be like this!!!
 
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bigdog

Arcanist
Jul 12, 2020
434
Fuck forget about genes my parents intentionally and deliberately destroyed me step by step with no remorse. I had / have the most toxic family I have ever seen in my lifetime
 
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ezeph

Member
Sep 30, 2020
12
I try to ignore mine as much as I can. Remember their words are only "valid" if you choose to make them so.
 
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Didymus

Clutching at invisible straws
Dec 11, 2018
348
I am fortunate I have parents who love me unconditionally. Not all parents are bad.
 
Tonight634

Tonight634

Member
Aug 24, 2020
94
Fuck forget about genes my parents intentionally and deliberately destroyed me step by step with no remorse. I had / have the most toxic family I have ever seen in my lifetime
I'm so sorry for you, sometimes life is just too tough and some people should never be allowed to have children...
I am fortunate I have parents who love me unconditionally. Not all parents are bad.
That is so great, you're so lucky!
 
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depression999

Member
Aug 18, 2020
36
WOW I really don't know how you expected your parents to ask you whether you wanted to be born or not
 
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LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
2,170
WOW I really don't know how you expected your parents to ask you whether you wanted to be born or not
That's the point. They can't ask you, so no consent can be given by the party being born.
I also hold anger because of being born the way I was. I've yet to hear of a reason people have children that isn't selfish or a result of stupidity, being naive. It would have been better if I was never born. I was set up for failure and my life has been a domino effect of absolute hell to my mind, my face and my body. I never even got to be a person.
My siblings-who I look nothing like- were much luckier than I, as were a good majority of my relatives. But I don't think my suffering and forcing me into the position to kill myself in a brutal fashion is a price to be payed for the rest of them to be born into more satisfying and privileged lives. Their happiness is not worth my suffering. As of now I have been sitting on my bedroom floor in a fucking catatonic state with destroyed eyelids from nonstop sobbing, desperate to die..but so much bullshit I have to get rid of still and what do I have? Glass, a knife? I don't have N or a gun, I can't even be afforded access to that much. I tried to hang myself already and it just makes my eyeballs feel about to pop out of my head, that's it. So I'm guessing I will go absolutely insane pretty soon and just grab whatever is near, holdfast while I bleed out and feel the horrible lack of oxygen. I can't even fathom bringing someone into this world and risk inflicting this kind of nightmare onto them. I mean sure, I had dreams, I saw what could be had in life by those more fortunate than I. But life's value is something I would gladly snuff out along with all the unimaginable pain and desperation in this world. I don't care if the human species ends, and everything else along with it at this point. If we all can't prosper, then let it be over for everyone. Let no more children be born. The imbalance is too great.
 
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depression999

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Aug 18, 2020
36
That's the point. They can't ask you, so no consent can be given by the party being born.
I also hold anger because of being born the way I was. I've yet to hear of a reason people have children that isn't selfish or a result of stupidity, being naive. It would have been better if I was never born. I was set up for failure and my life has been a domino effect of absolute hell to my mind, my face and my body. I never even got to be a person.
My siblings-who I look nothing like- were much luckier than I, as were a good majority of my relatives. But I don't think my suffering and forcing me into the position to kill myself in a brutal fashion is a price to be payed for the rest of them to be born into more satisfying and privileged lives. Their happiness is not worth my suffering. As of now I have been sitting on my bedroom floor in a fucking catatonic state with destroyed eyelids from nonstop sobbing, desperate to die..but so much bullshit I have to get rid of still and what do I have? Glass, a knife? I don't have N or a gun, I can't even be afforded access to that much. I tried to hang myself already and it just makes my eyeballs feel about to pop out of my head, that's it. So I'm guessing I will go absolutely insane pretty soon and just grab whatever is near, holdfast while I bleed out and feel the horrible lack of oxygen. I can't even fathom bringing someone into this world and risk inflicting this kind of nightmare onto them. I mean sure, I had dreams, I saw what could be had in life by those more fortunate than I. But life's value is something I would gladly snuff out along with all the unimaginable pain and desperation in this world. I don't care if the human species ends, and everything else along with it at this point. If we all can't prosper, then let it be over for everyone. Let no more children be born. The imbalance is too great.

I think it's pretty selfish of you to want everyone to die and no more births because you're unhappy.
 
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Meditation guide

Meditation guide

Always was, is, and always shall be.
Jun 22, 2020
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If we all can't prosper, then let it be over for everyone.
If you can't have the good life no one else should either. Is that what you mean? I don't understand how the others in your family are so much luckier than you are. In what ways?
 
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Mr2005

Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
Sep 25, 2018
3,621
My parents killed me but I let them by relying on them. I get the feeling op's smarter than that. It really does just make me hate myself all the more.
 
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LonelyDude15

LonelyDude15

Currently Spiraling
Sep 26, 2020
276
If you do CTB please don't do it to hurt someone else. Their's always a chance that they will just not care make every decision based on what's right for you/
 
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Mr2005

Mr2005

Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
Sep 25, 2018
3,621
I would love to hear how they did that.
You're right they didn't. I did they just didn't help. They probably shouldn't even have helped but sadly I am where I am because of it. They taught me what a useless piece of shit I am.
 
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Gentleman

For ethics, there is only suffering and its cure.
Sep 10, 2020
65
My immediate family would bully me constantly and gaslight the shit out of me whenever I stood for myself. I never saw a doctor for my disability instead I was coerced into silence. Despite their abuse and manipulation I cut all tides. Now I'm living a better life than they ever hoped for me :).
 
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LonelyDude15

Currently Spiraling
Sep 26, 2020
276
My immediate family would bully me constantly and gaslight the shit out of me whenever I stood for myself. I never saw a doctor for my disability instead I was coerced into silence. Despite their abuse and manipulation I cut all tides. Now I'm living a better life than they ever hoped for me :).
I really love your story but isn't it a little contradictory considering that you're on this website?
 
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Vannillahh

Vannillahh

Hope you have a happy life.
Sep 29, 2020
7
Why do people have children when they aren't fit to raise and care for children? Thanks to the idiots of my parents, I grew up wanting to kill myself along with dealing with mental health difficulties due to their mental and verbal abuse. They ignored all my red flags and decided to push me aside. Leaving me all alone to deal with my issues. Thanks, mom and dad, fucking love you. See you in hell.
 
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bigdog

Arcanist
Jul 12, 2020
434
Fuck my family is complete junk it is just beyond comprehension
They are not human complete waste
Fuck if I only knew this fuck!
 
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Homecoming

Wizard
Aug 14, 2020
643
They gave me life without asking me whether I even wanna be here just because of their selfish need to reproduce and feel complete and bla bla bla, and now here I am, I got the WORST genes from both of them, I'm not pretty enough, I'm not smart enough, I'm too emotional, too much of a burden, like it's your fucking genetics!!?!
Why do people have children when they aren't fit to raise and care for children?
Parents want to have kids because of one (or all) of the following reasons:
1. They want to have cute babies to play with.
2. They want to have kids to accompany them when they're bored.
3. They want their child to take care of them when they get old, and are willing to help them back financially when they retire.
4. They want them to help take care of their business/company, and last but not least...
5. Because of their f*ckin' ridiculous cultural, society, and religious reasons!

And because of this, a new human is now forced into this world, and forced to go through 20+ years of school, 50+ years of work, dealing with regular chores & duties, mental/physical health issues, trying to keep up with society, risk being bullied and dealing with sh!tty people/environments, relationship drama, needing to constantly entertain & occupy themselves to not go insane/lose their mind, deal with potential diseases & disasters, need to constantly stay safe and protect themselves, etc.... just to ultimately become old, sick, and die in the end. How pointless! :hmph:
 
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bigdog

Arcanist
Jul 12, 2020
434
Actually many people as I understood like to fuck and it results in pregnancy. And then if they are toxic they say that you owe them everything because they give birth to you
I mean it is completely unplanned
 
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TheSomebody

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Sep 28, 2020
283
I think it's pretty selfish of you to want everyone to die and no more births because you're unhappy.

If everyone stops being born, no one will die, only more people will not be born. On the contrary, without people being born, this means less pollution, less competition, less suffering and many others bads caused by overpopulation. Our lives will only improve until the 8 billion people die from natural causes.
 
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Brokensaddle

Student
Sep 28, 2020
185
They gave me life without asking me whether I even wanna be here just because of their selfish need to reproduce and feel complete and bla bla bla, and now here I am, I got the WORST genes from both of them, I'm not pretty enough, I'm not smart enough, I'm too emotional, too much of a burden, like it's your fucking genetics!!?! They can't wsit for me to grow up and get rid of me because I'm dumb and can't do anything well and won't be succesful, but I didn't fucking ask you zo have unprotected sex you ******* !!!
And the worst thing is, now I have to die by painfully hanging myself or suffocating myself to death....Nothing I do will ever be good enough for anyone and I just genuinely wanna die. I don't want life to be better, I wanna die. I want to hurt them just as much as they hurt me by bringing me here and then telling me that I'm not enough. I fucking hate you, from the bottom of my heart.
My parents hated each other and were in a toxic relationship even before I was born. The only reason I was born was because they wanted a son. My mum and sister have psychology and emotional abused over the point the last 11 years where when I was looking through my mental health notes the team looking after me described it as torture. I still live with my abusers and mental health team that supposedly looking after hasn't stopped them well enough because even with warnings they behave hasn't changed. I wished I had successfully commit suicide years ago my mum takes my anger out on me because what my dad did to her and my sister just wants me head so she can get my house. They stopped me from drinking from the tap, stopped me using the oven to cook food, stopped me from using the toilet and lied to the police and mental health services about me multiple times plus you add lots of verbal, psychologically and emotional abuse such as as a neglected me as a child and using me scapegoat, telling me actively to kill myself everyday. They have ruined me to the point where I have ptsd now
 
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Lupgevif

Lupgevif

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Jul 23, 2020
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I am fortunate I have parents who love me unconditionally. Not all parents are bad.
Same for me. But love isn't enough to rise a child properly, and I still wish my parents didn't make the conscious choice of having me (I was planned) since both of them are also full of emotional problems they just passed onto me.
 
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depression999

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Aug 18, 2020
36
If everyone stops being born, no one will die, only more people will not be born. On the contrary, without people being born, this means less pollution, less competition, less suffering and many others bads caused by overpopulation. Our lives will only improve until the 8 billion people die from natural causes.

If that's the case then No ones lives will improve, we'll all be dead
 
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ophiastri

Member
Sep 17, 2020
43
Just because parents care doesn't make it okay. It is worth acknowledging good parenting, because parenting is very difficult, and a lot are just trying their best, thinking they're doing something good. That said, it is still wrong no matter what.

It is literally gambling with someone else's life. Case closed.

They are willing to risk inconceivable amounts of suffering for someone else because they want the image of having a kid, or they want a slave to help. If the child turns out malformed with one lung or any number of other horrible troubles (like the brain defect I have), the only choice left for us is to simply murder ourselves if it's too hard to endure. If you don't have the fortitude for that, too bad, I guess.

No one should be forced to have to do something as horrible as taking their own life, and with homemade jerry-rigged setups no less that are likely to fail and give them more problems. But here we are, because two people looked at this world full of sin, war, violence, crime, mental illness, disease, injustice, racism, and greed and thought "it would be a good idea to force a sweet little child into this hell."

 
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