Venting I hate how suicidal people under 25 get their wish to die invalidated because of age

[FuneralCry]

I cannot stand those pro-lifers who love to patronise suicidal people under 25 by saying things like "you are so young", honestly I'm disgusted by people like that, they make me want to die even more. There is no "hope" in existing no matter what they say, human existence is beyond undesirable anyway and I'd always prefer to not exist no matter what. 23 years is way more than enough for me, in fact I wish I existed for no years at all, being younger just means that there is more opportunities to suffer and I don't want to suffer in any way, pro-lifers who force unsolicted "advice" and are so insulting and invalidating truly do disgust me.

And I hate how pro-life is everywhere, even in a space that is supposedly "pro-choice", sorry but forcing life valuing beliefs is not respecting choice. I just cannot stand pro-lifers, it's cult like how they refuse to accept suicide as a valid option even know other people's personal decisions are literally nothing to do with them. But anyway no matter what is said existence itself is the true problem, I hope that I fall asleep soon, I'm only writing as I'm still awake and I don't want to be.

 

[BardBarrie]

What surprises me about this post is that you're only 23, I assumed you were much older.

No way.

 

[leyl]

What surprises me about this post is that you're only 23, I assumed you were much older.

No way.

yeah idk why but me too haha

 

[Kapsyl]

What surprises me about this post is that you're only 23, I assumed you were much older.

No way.

Just wait until she/he/AI is 40, then we will se some serious shit.

 

[final_countdown12]

Holy shity only 23?!

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

I hate it too, ageism is everywhere in "mental health" spaces. It gets very patronizing when people imply time and time again that my desire to CTB is just a vagary of youth when I have clearly articulated to them my existential arguments for not wanting to exist. They constantly spout that "your brain isn't done developing until 25" BS at me, ignorant of the fact that this has been increasingly debunked in recent years. Not to mention that even if it was true, there's still considerable individual variation, so it's fairly unreasonable to dismiss someone right off the bat just based on their age.

 

[anastenka]

I cannot stand those pro-lifers who love to patronise suicidal people under 25 by saying things like "you are so young", honestly I'm disgusted by people like that, they make me want to die even more. There is no "hope" in existing no matter what they say, human existence is beyond undesirable anyway and I'd always prefer to not exist no matter what. 23 years is way more than enough for me, in fact I wish I existed for no years at all, being younger just means that there is more opportunities to suffer and I don't want to suffer in any way, pro-lifers who force unsolicted "advice" and are so insulting and invalidating truly do disgust me.

And I hate how pro-life is everywhere, even in a space that is supposedly "pro-choice", sorry but forcing life valuing beliefs is not respecting choice. I just cannot stand pro-lifers, it's cult like how they refuse to accept suicide as a valid option even know other people's personal decisions are literally nothing to do with them. But anyway no matter what is said existence itself is the true problem, I hope that I fall asleep soon, I'm only writing as I'm still awake and I don't want to be.

I agree wholeheartedly; I'm eighteen myself so again, quite young, and I often get told I have my life ahead of me. That this pit I've buried myself can only last so long, that it will GET better. All these words do is making me feel worse, I won't get better, I know that myself.

There could've been a world where I lived longer but in this one I don't. I don't need this reassurance, I need acceptance. At the end of the day I'm not silly, I'm a child who so desperately wants to escape the hell that I've been put through. It's so invalidating to hear

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

I agree wholeheartedly; I'm eighteen myself so again, quite young, and I often get told I have my life ahead of me. That this pit I've buried myself can only last so long, that it will GET better. All these words do is making me feel worse, I won't get better, I know that myself.

There could've been a world where I lived longer but in this one I don't. I don't need this reassurance, I need acceptance. At the end of the day I'm not silly, I'm a child who so desperately wants to escape the hell that I've been put through. It's so invalidating to hear

When people say "you have your whole life ahead of you" just respond "Yeah that's the problem" lol.

 

[karmaisabitch]

I agree with you! We live in horror-people are killing each other hurting each other. To leave this world early while young is actually a blessing! I just told my sister to not have kids and she agreed. Suicide should be allowed for young age more than old honestly.. this young generation can't take the evil in this world.

 

[AnonThinker]

Not that I can afford the membership, but it pisses me off that Exit Internation/PPH won't let you join or get the book if you're under (I think) 50 and not terminally ill. Why do people get to decide that you're to young? Or that your mental illness isn't valid? I'm so jealous of the woman who's doing assisted dying in the Netherlands due to mental health. There have been so many articles about her, but wtf, let her do her thing. She's not a child, she's tried all the meds and counseling etc etc. At some point, it just is enough. Let the person make the decision.

 

[iloverachel]

Agreed
Life is a disgusting abomination

 

[martinso67]

For me personally, it is fine to wait till that age. The real cruelity for me is to have the live through the average human life expectancy. 70+ years. Some get to live till 100 years regardless of health issues.

 

[darkenmydoorstep]

I cannot stand those pro-lifers who love to patronise suicidal people under 25 by saying things like "you are so young", honestly I'm disgusted by people like that, they make me want to die even more. There is no "hope" in existing no matter what they say, human existence is beyond undesirable anyway and I'd always prefer to not exist no matter what. 23 years is way more than enough for me, in fact I wish I existed for no years at all, being younger just means that there is more opportunities to suffer and I don't want to suffer in any way, pro-lifers who force unsolicted "advice" and are so insulting and invalidating truly do disgust me.

And I hate how pro-life is everywhere, even in a space that is supposedly "pro-choice", sorry but forcing life valuing beliefs is not respecting choice. I just cannot stand pro-lifers, it's cult like how they refuse to accept suicide as a valid option even know other people's personal decisions are literally nothing to do with them. But anyway no matter what is said existence itself is the true problem, I hope that I fall asleep soon, I'm only writing as I'm still awake and I don't want to be.

It's a very ageist world sadly. In the UK they get away with paying people less money because of their age to do the same job. I've always thought that very wrong too.

People just have their rose coloured glasses on about their own youth when it comes to suicide. I think so long as you're an adult you should be able to take pain free drugs to end it.

 

[Optimu$]

@FuneralCry I feel for you and agree but unfortunately you'll just change the number on your thread to 30, 40, 50 etc as you and growing old become unwilling companions in the journey of life.

yeah idk why but me too haha

What surprises me about this post is that you're only 23, I assumed you were much older.

No way.

Just wait until she/he/AI is 40, then we will se some serious shit.

Holy shity only 23?!

@final_countdown12 @Kapsyl @BardBarrie @leyl Yes it's a LOT of moaning, groaning and venting for a young person but I'm guessing it's compounded by something like OCD or autism amd I read in one of her old threads linked to another thread that she has a variety of health problems. I can only guess but they must all play a factor in these threads.

Not that I can afford the membership, but it pisses me off that Exit Internation/PPH won't let you join or get the book if you're under (I think) 50 and not terminally ill. Why do people get to decide that you're to young? Or that your mental illness isn't valid? I'm so jealous of the woman who's doing assisted dying in the Netherlands due to mental health. There have been so many articles about her, but wtf, let her do her thing. She's not a child, she's tried all the meds and counseling etc etc. At some point, it just is enough. Let the person make the decision.

@AnonThinker You can download the book from here I believe in the resources section.

 

[GhostShell]

Holy shit talk about proving the point in these first few replies.
Responding with ageism will only ensure you are seen as less mature than someone who is 23 even if you are 100 years old.

 

[AnonThinker]

@AnonThinker You can download the book from here I believe in the resources section.

I got the book ages ago. Also got final exit.

 

[diadem99]

Just wait until she/he/AI is 40, then we will se some serious shit.

You just proved the point of the OP.

 

[Kapsyl]

You just proved the point of the OP.

How so exactly?

Don't you agree that the suffering will accumulate throughout the years, especially in FC case since she/he/Ai insist ctb is not possible without OTC Nembutal.

 

[diadem99]

How so exactly?

Don't you agree that the suffering will accumulate throughout the years, especially in FC case since she/he/Ai insist ctb is not possible without OTC Nembutal.

Of course it will, but it doesn't mean that OP isn't seeing "some serious shit" at this point of their life.

 

[Kapsyl]

Of course it will, but it doesn't mean that OP isn't seeing "some serious shit" at this point of their life.

I would say majority of the people who's hanging around Sasu is already seeing "some serious shit" including FC. Why else would we have joined?

I think you're over analyzing my obvious sarcastic comment a bit too much.

 

[Optimu$]

Guys even if FC/OP was a bot/AI......computers and software are intelligent enough to have feelings too . I think FC is a she though.

 

[BardBarrie]

Holy shit talk about proving the point in these first few replies.
Responding with ageism will only ensure you are seen as less mature than someone who is 23 even if you are 100 years old.

Honestly I wasn't being ageist: I was just pleasantly surprised by how much I overestimated FC's actual age — I assumed she was in her 40's/50's and am always amused at how wrong my assumptions can be.

 

[willitpass]

Holy shit talk about proving the point in these first few replies.
Responding with ageism will only ensure you are seen as less mature than someone who is 23 even if you are 100 years old.

I don't think being surprised at someone's age is ageist. You can be genuinely surprised by something without it being a positive or negative reaction to it. It's no different than thinking someone looks to be 25 and finding out they're 40, it's just genuinely surprising to hear, not meaning you think of them any different because of it. Nobody said "only 23??? You're too young to be here", all they said was "You're 23?". Nothing much to it.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

I think judiciously encouraging serious reflection and offering additional points to consider (no pressure or obliging!) is in support of a pro-choice stance, not contradictory to it. Obviously not OP but that kind of firmness and confidence is unusual.

Just wait until she/he/AI is 40, then we will se some serious shit.

I hope it doesn't get to that point; that'd be genuinely tragic.

 

[leyl]

Yes it's a LOT of moaning, groaning and venting for a young person but I'm guessing it's compounded by something like OCD or autism amd I read in one of her old threads linked to another thread that she has a variety of health problems. I can only guess but they must all play a factor in these threads.

I'm 19 and feel very much like OP. I can sound like that at times.
It's just that they gave me like…idk just vibes of someone older (based on their other threads too). Like late 20's. But we're actually closer in age haha

 

[etherealspring]

I know, it's truly terrible... I remember when I was 11 I told my parents about my suicidal feelings... my mum shouted at me and they both said i didnt know what i was saying. Of course I did, I still feel those same things today. When it comes to being suicidal, people should be taken seriously, no matter their age.

 

[Davey40210]

Its nice to know more about FC though.. its like an enigma.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Its nice to know more about FC though.. its like an enigma.

She's not an enigma. She's just a young woman caught in a constant and progressively worsening negative thought loop as a result of unfortunate circumstances. Her older posts, the ones where she seems a bit more "human" (I don't mean to dehumanize her, btw. I just can't think of the right word to describe it atm) were back when things weren't as bad for her. Her mental state seems to be deteriorating.

 

[sadlittleman32]

Even 1 second is too much for me let alone living 32 years in this miserable world.. Legalize euthanasia everywhere!