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I think they got caught a bit off guard. They did express a bit of regret in not having handled it differently. I think 2 people in the UK have reported recent visits. One had purchased back in Jan I think.

They can be quite intimidating and use tactics that are designed to disarm you. People have successfully turned them away though.
Thanks for the response. One thing I guess that worried me about an LE visit was I am soon going to be moving into an apartment complex with a concierge. I'd worry that the police showing up would make the landlords find out what was going on and kick me out for bringing a banned substance to their property. I guess it's none of their business though right?
 
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Thanks for the response. One thing I guess that worried me about an LE visit was I am soon going to be moving into an apartment complex with a concierge. I'd worry that the police showing up would make the landlords find out what was going on and kick me out for bringing a banned substance to their property. I guess it's none of their business though right?
It is none of their business and apparently the police in the UK were quite respectful in one of the cases. They even called their superior to see if they could leave the N with the person they were checking up on because it might be of benefit to their mental health. Truth is all LE should be respectful of privacy because they have no warrant and are carrying out wellness visits acting on a lead that may or may not be correct. So you could quite easily tell your landlord that you were giving a statement as a witness or similar. They would never know either way. Police visit for all sorts of legitimate reasons and your landlord has to be respectful of that too.

Obviously what people should do, and what they actually do aren't always aligned but you at least have law on your side. Ironically.

As you're moving though, maybe it would be better to receive it at your current address and then move on. It would be an extra barrier to LE finding you. They may not go to the extent of following a chain of addresses. Particularly on an off chance. As long as they can say they attempted a visit they did their bit and can sign off. That's their main goal really. Do their job, get through the day, go home. Obviously some of them have a caring side but they're all under pressure and work with limited time and resources. Make it easy for them to leave you alone and they usually will unless you're a prolific felon.
 
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I'm not concerned about a package being confiscated although it would be annoying. I'm more concerned about the fallout with LE. Has anyone heard of people being given a sentence or very high fine for trying to import certain substances, even if it's clear it is for the purpose of ending their own life?
 
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Thanks for the response. One thing I guess that worried me about an LE visit was I am soon going to be moving into an apartment complex with a concierge. I'd worry that the police showing up would make the landlords find out what was going on and kick me out for bringing a banned substance to their property. I guess it's none of their business though right?
That's my concern, too, getting evicted, which would happen for me.
 
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I'm not concerned about a package being confiscated although it would be annoying. I'm more concerned about the fallout with LE. Has anyone heard of people being given a sentence or very high fine for trying to import certain substances, even if it's clear it is for the purpose of ending their own life?
No. There's been very few people charged in any way. I think a couple of people in Europe got possession charges in the spout of wellness visits a couple of years back. Nobody has received a sentence as far as I'm aware. You'd need significant previous charges to get charged in any way. The visits are aimed more at harm reduction. The intention is not to charge or scold suicidal people.
 
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No. There's been very few people charged in any way. I think a couple of people in Europe got possession charges in the spout of wellness visits a couple of years back. Nobody has received a sentence as far as I'm aware. You'd need significant previous charges to get charged in any way. The visits are aimed more at harm reduction. The intention is not to charge or scold suicidal people.
Thanks for this. I thought I had read an article about Australia fining people 80k AUD for importing but I could be misremembering. It might have just been a punishment in law that's never handed out, or just to people with priors. It always worried me in case they do similar over here. Glad to hear that about Europe anyway.
 
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Thanks for this. I thought I had read an article about Australia fining people 80k AUD for importing but I could be misremembering. It might have just been a punishment in law that's never handed out, or just to people with priors. It always worried me in case they do similar over here. Glad to hear that about Europe anyway.
Ah, I can't say for certain that never happened, just that it's not something I came across in my own research. Australia are notoriously strict on drugs in general though. Often to an illogical degree so maybe it did happen. I'd be amazed if that happened in EU countries or the US though.
 
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congratulations! i wish you the best and that you find the peace you need. safe travels and best of luck.
 
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For all anyone knows, LE could be getting the names of the N recipients right off of SaSu. Well, maybe not directly off SaSu, but through the user's interaction with SaSu. It seems that everyone who receives their N posts a message about getting it. If LE monitors SaSu, and I'm sure they do, how much would it take to get a court order for the user's records from the poster's ISP, which, in turn, connects the SaSu user to the Internet service account being used, along with a name and address, which leads right to the person receiving the N and a knock at the door. Determining the identity of recipients may have nothing to do with D at all.
I can't say I've seen these vague posts but either way there's also post saying they visited a specific member of the houshold. For your theory to hold up it would have to hold up across the board. From a scientific/mathematical perspective chosing to believe it based on a portion of the 'results' is not credible. Whist you can use it as a partial working theory you cannot, on any credible ground claim it is the 'the' reason. Particularly when the unacounted for result display indicators of it being incorrect.

This isn't about who's right or wrong. We're all here working toward a mutual understanding. Throwing theories out for consideration is useful. Arguing for the sqke of appearing correct is not useful. It is in fact counter productive.
1) "For your theory to hold up it would have to hold up across the board." This is not true at all. LE uses different means to gather evidence, and they use different means to corroborate evidence. If LE traces an IP address that was used to purchase N to a specific household, first, there is no guarantee that someone in the house is the person who ordered the N. Ever hear of war-driving? Anyone could hack into your wifi and use the connection for nefarious means. Moreover, depending on how LE got their information determines how much they may know. If they intercepted the N at customs, and let the shipment go through, they may have "a" name and address on the parcel, but it may not correspond to the person who owns or rents the house to which it is addressed. The person to whom the parcel is addressed may not even be known to live in the house to which the parcel is addressed. If that's the case, LE would have to make more vague inquiries if they show up at the door. And as mentioned before, the person who ordered the N may have just piggybacked on your wifi. Happens all the time. Another thing that happens frequently are strangers that use addresses that are not their own. One case in point is my mother's house. She passed-away last year and the house went up for sale. Pictures were posted online, which showed the entire house, inside and outside. It was obvious that the house was empty, because all all of the interior pictures showed empty rooms. Soon after the house pictures were posted online, mail address to a person I did not know started arriving in her mailbox. It was from the local department of Job & Family Services, which handles welfare and unemployment benefits. I returned the mail, but received more a few couple weeks later. When I called Job & Family Services it was explained to me that mailing addresses of empty houses are used frequently to fraudulently apply for unemployment benefits. The person behind the fraud tries to retrieve the mail before someone else gets it, because much of the correspondence requires some type of action. In this case, they were not successful because I went to check the house every single day. But, it happens a lot. Same thing could happen if someone orders N and uses the neighbor's address. They would just have to beat the neighbor in collecting the package, which can oftentimes work, since the neighbors often work during the day and no one is home.

LE can get info from seizing packages at customs. They can get info by tracing the Internet service that was used to order. The may even be getting info by tracing the movement of the cryptocurrency used, which may vary some, in how they go about it, at least, between the different cryptocurrencies. What information they do get determines how they go about their investigation. And if you don't think they can do all that, I don't know what to tell you. If they corroborate a name used for the payment, to a same name at a house, and the Internet service account, also, matches someone at the house, then I would imagine that when they come to the door they would ask for a specific person. If a trace of the cryptocurrencies does NOT match the name of the person who has the Internet service at a particular house, or doesn't match the owner of the house, or person renting the house, where the order originated, then LE would be a little more vague and inquisitive when they come to the door.

Nothing has to hold up "across the board", as you put it, because of the number of different avenues available for investigation, and the varied information that might be gleaned depending on what is found out. You seem to want to argue for sake of arguing. You seem to be stuck in some kind of "tunnel vision" and are unable to see a forest through the trees. LE investigations are not some linear equation, nor are they mathematical. My intent was to get people thinking about the unknown unknowns. You have no idea of all the tools available to the government. That's a fact. You're kidding yourself if you think the only way LE can get information about N crossing the border is at customs. And if you think that using encrypted Proton mail, and encrypted cryptocurrency transactions, and all of that is not discoverable by LE and the government, then you're deluding yourself. Hell, the US probably is getting lost of help from the Mexican authorities. It wouldn't take much to secure their help. The Mexican government is always in need of something from the US. Tit for Tat, the US needs something, too. And it's well know how hardcore the Mexican government is. They don't have the rules like we do here.

Right now, it seems, the US, and a lot of the Western world, is hellbent, at least, on making a disruption into this aspect of suicide. LE may not be able to be on it 100% of the time because of other investigations they must do. But, they seem to be sending some type of message, and it seems that it's a somewhat effective one, at least, at the moment. I'm sure, overall, it's a very, VERY small percentage of suicidal persons who try and acquire N and who use it to ctb. Maybe that's why they're picking on this method, because it's the one they can stop. They can't stop stores from selling ropes. Same goes for selling charcoal and tents. And it's pretty hard to stop people from jumping from high places. This is one where they have the tools to stop it, and I bet they're using every one at their disposal.
 
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Hey everyone! I want to give an update on those nervous about getting N within the US (I can't speak for the security obstacles in other countries)… well I got my N safe and sound and it came a lot quicker than I expected. I did do a lot to avoid LE showing up and my plan in terms of making sure they didn't worked out well. I'd say if you're in the states, plan ahead, make sure you have good security in place, and wait it out! D was incredible, and extremely helpful when it came to any questions, comments, or concerns I had about N and the shipment. I oddly now feel very relaxed about when it's my time to CTB and I think that's because I know I have a safe and peaceful option. I had to save up a few checks for N and I'd say it's well worth the money!

I wish everyone good luck on obtaining N
Thanks for the info. Could you please let us know or PM me what you did and prepared for to avoid LE showing up and your plan in terms of making sure they didn't worked out well. "I'd say if you're in the states, plan ahead, make sure you have good security in place," Clarify, good security? I want to use N but I rent and, if I had a LE or safety check, I would be evicted. Couldn't handle that right now. Thanks for your help.
 
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I'm pretty convinced that LE in the US anyway are getting info at the customs point, from the parcel service. They've known the number of bottles and have worked with the parcel company to delay and seize the delivery or show up shortly thereafter and try to acquire the delivery. Just say no. Without a warrant they have no legal means to take it.

Hopefully D is changing packaging and using different shipping points.
I guess we'll have to see if that's how it's happening. It may be one way. I'm convinced there are a multitude of different ways LE is getting their information. We'll see.
 
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1) "For your theory to hold up it would have to hold up across the board." This is not true at all. LE uses different means to gather evidence, and they use different means to corroborate evidence. If LE traces an IP address that was used to purchase N to a specific household, first, there is no guarantee that someone in the house is the person who ordered the N. Ever hear of war-driving? Anyone could hack into your wifi and use the connection for nefarious means. Moreover, depending on how LE got their information determines how much they may know. If they intercepted the N at customs, and let the shipment go through, they may have "a" name and address on the parcel, but it may not correspond to the person who owns or rents the house to which it is addressed. The person to whom the parcel is addressed may not even be known to live in the house to which the parcel is addressed. If that's the case, LE would have to make more vague inquiries if they show up at the door. And as mentioned before, the person who ordered the N may have just piggybacked on your wifi. Happens all the time. Another thing that happens frequently are strangers that use addresses that are not their own. One case in point is my mother's house. She passed-away last year and the house went up for sale. Pictures were posted online, which showed the entire house, inside and outside. It was obvious that the house was empty, because all all of the interior pictures showed empty rooms. Soon after the house pictures were posted online, mail address to a person I did not know started arriving in her mailbox. It was from the local department of Job & Family Services, which handles welfare and unemployment benefits. I returned the mail, but received more a few couple weeks later. When I called Job & Family Services it was explained to me that mailing addresses of empty houses are used frequently to fraudulently apply for unemployment benefits. The person behind the fraud tries to retrieve the mail before someone else gets it, because much of the correspondence requires some type of action. In this case, they were not successful because I went to check the house every single day. But, it happens a lot. Same thing could happen if someone orders N and uses the neighbor's address. They would just have to beat the neighbor in collecting the package, which can oftentimes work, since the neighbors often work during the day and no one is home.

LE can get info from seizing packages at customs. They can get info by tracing the Internet service that was used to order. The may even be getting info by tracing the movement of the cryptocurrency used, which may vary some, in how they go about it, at least, between the different cryptocurrencies. What information they do get determines how they go about their investigation. And if you don't think they can do all that, I don't know what to tell you. If they corroborate a name used for the payment, to a same name at a house, and the Internet service account, also, matches someone at the house, then I would imagine that when they come to the door they would ask for a specific person. If a trace of the cryptocurrencies does NOT match the name of the person who has the Internet service at a particular house, or doesn't match the owner of the house, or person renting the house, where the order originated, then LE would be a little more vague and inquisitive when they come to the door.

Nothing has to hold up "across the board", as you put it, because of the number of different avenues available for investigation, and the varied information that might be gleaned depending on what is found out. You seem to want to argue for sake of arguing. You seem to be stuck in some kind of "tunnel vision" and are unable to see a forest through the trees. LE investigations are not some linear equation, nor are they mathematical. My intent was to get people thinking about the unknown unknowns. You have no idea of all the tools available to the government. That's a fact. You're kidding yourself if you think the only way LE can get information about N crossing the border is at customs. And if you think that using encrypted Proton mail, and encrypted cryptocurrency transactions, and all of that is not discoverable by LE and the government, then you're deluding yourself. Hell, the US probably is getting lost of help from the Mexican authorities. It wouldn't take much to secure their help. The Mexican government is always in need of something from the US. Tit for Tat, the US needs something, too. And it's well know how hardcore the Mexican government is. They don't have the rules like we do here.

Right now, it seems, the US, and a lot of the Western world, is hellbent, at least, on making a disruption into this aspect of suicide. LE may not be able to be on it 100% of the time because of other investigations they must do. But, they seem to be sending some type of message, and it seems that it's a somewhat effective one, at least, at the moment. I'm sure, overall, it's a very, VERY small percentage of suicidal persons who try and acquire N and who use it to ctb. Maybe that's why they're picking on this method, because it's the one they can stop. They can't stop stores from selling ropes. Same goes for selling charcoal and tents. And it's pretty hard to stop people from jumping from high places. This is one where they have the tools to stop it, and I bet they're using every one at their disposal.
Jeez, you're exhausting.

My initial reply was to the SINGLE theory you posed. You suggested ALL people receiving N post it on the forum and subsequently LE trace it back from there which simply isn't the case. ALL do not post that received it. And of those that have had visits many have not done so.

My response was that "you can use that as a working theory but not as THE reason". Now you bring a whole host of other theories into the mix which weren't in question and consider me ignorant by omission and quoting me out of context. We weren't talking about multiple theories. It's glaringly obvious that there are many ways LE can get information. We were speaking specifically about the single theory you were putting out and now you decided to change your tune, flip flopping all over the place, spouting a whole host of new (obvious info) and accusing me posthumously of me ignorant to it. Accusing me of the things I just accused you of as though I never said it and the words were your own. I could pick it apart but honestly nobody wants to read through a page of text and I really don't have it in me to do so. Suffice to say, I see you. Guess I hope others do too.
 
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You suggested ALL people receiving N post it on the forum and subsequently LE trace it back from there which simply isn't the case. ALL do not post that received it.
When did I suggest that? I only said that is ONE way LE can trace N to a buyer. I went through numerous other pathways that LE could use to trace the N back to a buyer. I know that not everyone who receives N posts it on this forum. I highly doubt there is a run on N to ctb. I doubt very much is sold at all. A lot of people just don't have the money for it. I'd say of all the methods available, N is probably down near the bottom, as far as chosen methods. With that said, even if someone didn't post on here about receiving their N, I bet they would post on here if they had their N confiscated, or even if they had a knock on their door by LE. There are many younger people on this forum, who haven't the life experience, and consequently don't have a good grasp about the capabilities of government. It does them a disservice to suggest that just because they use encrypted this and encrypted that, that there is no way for those communications to be intercepted.

I'm not exhausting myself anymore tonight. Too hot.
 
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When did I suggest that? I only said that is ONE way LE can trace N to a buyer. I went through numerous other pathways that LE could use to trace the N back to a buyer. I know that not everyone who receives N posts it on this forum. I highly doubt there is a run on N to ctb. I doubt very much is sold at all. A lot of people just don't have the money for it. I'd say of all the methods available, N is probably down near the bottom, as far as chosen methods. With that said, even if someone didn't post on here about receiving their N, I bet they would post on here if they had their N confiscated, or even if they had a knock on their door by LE. There are many younger people on this forum, who haven't the life experience, and consequently don't have a good grasp about the capabilities of government. It does them a disservice to suggest that just because they use encrypted this and encrypted that, that there is no way for those communications to be intercepted.

See below for where you suggested that.....
It seems that everyone who receives their N posts a message about getting it. If LE monitors SaSu, and I'm sure they do, how much would it take to get a court order for the user's records from the poster's ISP, which, in turn, connects the SaSu user to the Internet service account being used, along with a name and address, which leads right to the person receiving the N and a knock at the door.

Now cross reference that with the post above it.


I'm not exhausting myself anymore tonight. Too hot.

Again.... taking my words and repeating them back at me as your own. You keep doing this. Way too often for it to be coincidence.

I'm done with this. I see you for what you are. In my opinion you're just another london3. Desperate for adoration. Desperate to have people believe you know more than you actually do. Have at it. I'm done with calling you out and dealing with the fallout because you refuse to take an honest look at yourself and stand by what you previously said. It's full of inconsistencies. The only rhing that's consistant is the way you keep adding more details in order ro duether complicate things and avoid facing facts. Anyone that cares to go through post history will see it for themselves. Not that I'd recommend they do.

There's literally no point in us talking about this anymore. It's boring and ultimately is all over you defending your ego for which I have little time nore energy to waste.

Now go on, repeat that back to me like it's your own words.

That's rhetorical. Please don't.
 
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Hi guys, it's really late here and I'm still in shock and quite numb but I've just been released from a police station for possession of a controlled substance. I 've been there for 9 hours!

The police knocked on my door and searched my flat at 5pm Monday and found my N in my fridge. I've had it for 3 months. The police knew exactly what and when I ordered it because they told me.

They seized my phone under Section 19 PACE. My N has been confiscated and heading to West Midlands Police for testing.

I've been released pending further investigation. My arresting officer (she is quite fit btw) in case she's reading this :D said she was given instructions to arrest me and collect a bottle of pentalbarbital info which came from intelligence, maybe GCHQ

I might make a proper post tomorrow, I lost my N and I'm so lost

i was arrested in front of neighbours. im devastated and have work in 5 hours
 
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Hi guys, it's really late here and I'm still in shock and quite numb but I've just been released from a police station for possession of a controlled substance. I 've been there for 9 hours!

The police knocked on my door and searched my flat at 5pm Monday and found my N in my fridge. I've had it for 3 months. The police knew exactly what and when I ordered it because they told me.

They seized my phone under Section 19 PACE. My N has been confiscated and heading to West Midlands Police for testing.

I've been released pending further investigation. My arresting officer (she is quite fit btw) in case she's reading this :D said she was given instructions to arrest me and collect a bottle of pentalbarbital info which came from intelligence, maybe GCHQ

I might make a proper post tomorrow, I lost my N and I'm so lost

i was arrested in front of neighbours. im devastated and have work in 5 hours
That fucking sucks! I'm sorry for yoy!

Not a welfare visit. But a criminal charge. That is a clear change in tact. Its so odd that some are getting welfare visits but you're receiving a charge. If it helps, if it's your first offence or your priors are minor you will receive a fine if not a caution. Try not to let it play on your mind too harshly. Hope you get your phone back in a decent amount of time. Really feel for you man.
 
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Thanks bud. I'm staring at a letter headed Released (Under Investigation) - Checkpoint Deferred Prosecution Scheme.

If I don't attend this thing, I'm going to court and get prosecuted.

I was literally reading stories of this stuff of people getting busted earlier thinking they were scare stories.. The officer said are you Mr such and such, when I opened the door, err yeah?, unfortunately I'm arresting you on the possession of pentalbarbital and she and another officer barged in. She told me to sit on my bed while the other officer search my flat. I knew I fucked when he started going through my bin!

how.the.actual.fuck!!
 
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Thanks bud. I'm staring at a letter headed Released (Under Investigation) - Checkpoint Deferred Prosecution Scheme.

If I don't attend this thing, I'm going to court and get prosecuted.

I was literally reading stories of this stuff of people getting busted earlier thinking they were scare stories.. The officer said are you Mr such and such, when I opened the door, err yeah?, unfortunately I'm arresting you on the possession of pentalbarbital and she and another officer barged in. She told me to sit on my bed while the other officer search my flat. I knew I fucked when he started going through my bin!

how.the.actual.fuck!!
Did thay have a warrant? Dud you ask? Sorry man, this is fucked for you, but I had to ask.
 
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See below for where you suggested that.....


Now cross reference that with the post above it.




Again.... taking my words and repeating them back at me as your own. You keep doing this. Way too often for it to be coincidence.

I'm done with this. I see you for what you are. In my opinion you're just another london3. Desperate for adoration. Desperate to have people believe you know more than you actually do. Have at it. I'm done with calling you out and dealing with the fallout because you refuse to take an honest look at yourself and stand by what you previously said. It's full of inconsistencies. The only rhing that's consistant is the way you keep adding more details in order ro duether complicate things and avoid facing facts. Anyone that cares to go through post history will see it for themselves. Not that I'd recommend they do.

There's literally no point in us talking about this anymore. It's boring and ultimately is all over you defending your ego for which I have little time nore energy to waste.

Now go on, repeat that back to me like it's your own words.

That's rhetorical. Please don't.
Are you having some kind of breakdown?

And as far as you inferring that I said everyone is on SaSu when they get their N, are you referring to this statement I made: "It seems that everyone who receives their N posts a message about getting it."

So, to you, when someone says "everyone" you take it as meaning EVERYONE? Like I said EVERYONE posts on SaSu when they get their N? That's NOT what "everyone" in that sentence, IN THAT CONTEXT, means. It means it SEEMS like everyone who gets their N WHO posts". Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me for possibly leaving a word out here and there. I guess I'm not as perfect as you.

Would it be better if I just said that, "for those who do post about _______________"...................?

You're WAY too literal.

And you don't own the word exhausting, BTW. Believe you me, your circular logic is exhausting, especially when it was near, or after, midnight last night when I replied. Not tonight, though. Not tonight.

Now, I'm Literally Exhausted. :hihi:
 
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Did thay have a warrant? Dud you ask? Sorry man, this is fucked for you, but I had to ask.

No I didnt ask. This is in the UK. I tried to muster some courage and say in my retarded voice something about do you always arrest people in their homes for a class B drug, I cant remember what she said.

In my interview, they wanted to know about D, his email, where he's from, am I selling it, about these forums. Would I work with the police if I bought some more
 
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betternever2havbeen

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@hopeless123 that's horrendous I'm so sorry! I was gonna ask earlier if they could seize any devices as that didn't look like it had happened yet.
 
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Hi guys, it's really late here and I'm still in shock and quite numb but I've just been released from a police station for possession of a controlled substance. I 've been there for 9 hours!

The police knocked on my door and searched my flat at 5pm Monday and found my N in my fridge. I've had it for 3 months. The police knew exactly what and when I ordered it because they told me.

They seized my phone under Section 19 PACE. My N has been confiscated and heading to West Midlands Police for testing.

I've been released pending further investigation. My arresting officer (she is quite fit btw) in case she's reading this :D said she was given instructions to arrest me and collect a bottle of pentalbarbital info which came from intelligence, maybe GCHQ

I might make a proper post tomorrow, I lost my N and I'm so lost

i was arrested in front of neighbours. im devastated and have work in 5 hours
Bull shit
 
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Did you give LE what they were looking for, btw? D's email, this forum...spill it. And, what happened after that?
If he was talking to them for 9 hours odds are he said something
 
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Did you give LE what they were looking for, btw? D's email, this forum...spill it. And, what happened after that?

Hello, I was honest about what it was and how I was feeling and what I was hoping to do.. I was going to try argue it was something else but decided to come clean. They asked me how I got it and I said online, from where, I didn't tell them, what's his name, I don't know, where is it from, don't know, what's his email, cant remember deleted, how much, I said close to a grand.

I was more interested how they just turned up at my door. its' when they said you bought it on the 30 March and I didnt have it delivered to my home address really blew me away.
I wasn't interviewed for a huge amount of time, maybe 30mins. I was in a cell for most of it.


I'm only letting you guys know not to scare you but to warn you that they know, in the UK 100%, so hide it unbelievably well. They mentioned it was still an unusual drug and I'm the second one in my county (Surrey, UK) to be arrested for it.

just my luck.
 
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Thanks bud. I'm staring at a letter headed Released (Under Investigation) - Checkpoint Deferred Prosecution Scheme.

If I don't attend this thing, I'm going to court and get prosecuted.

I was literally reading stories of this stuff of people getting busted earlier thinking they were scare stories.. The officer said are you Mr such and such, when I opened the door, err yeah?, unfortunately I'm arresting you on the possession of pentalbarbital and she and another officer barged in. She told me to sit on my bed while the other officer search my flat. I knew I fucked when he started going through my bin!

how.the.actual.fuck!!
What an evil world we live in . They arrest people for trying to escape torture. Every human is going to die anyway no matter what happens . In 130 years all 7 billion humans alive now will be dead. For me the year 2122 can't get here fast enough.
 
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