I Failed With CO Method Last Night :(

[CaptainT]

In that case, I would recommend you go with SN should you want to CTB again. SN has a higher chance of success, after all.

I'm gutted the CO didn't work, but I've got the SN arriving in the post soon so that will be my next method I think. Waiting on the domperidone too (as I can't take the meto) so no antacid for me. How about you, are you all sorted?

 

[CrushedHopes]

I'm gutted the CO didn't work, but I've got the SN arriving in the post soon so that will be my next method I think. Waiting on the domperidone too (as I can't take the meto) so no antacid for me. How about you, are you all sorted?

Ordered all the SN materials; all due to come next week, I think. Will be going as soon as they arrive.

 

[LuzurPhagget]

That is a pickle...did you use a CO meter to measure the concentration? Because apparently just over 800ppm over 2-3 hours should kill you...

You said there there was only ash left? Hmm, all the times I've tested it, there was still a surplus of charcoal left in the hibachi. I kept thinking, "fuck, why is it out already?!?" However, when opening the door (and also inadvertently allowing some CO to escape) to place the meter inside, it still read above 999ppm after 3 hours! I'm thinking the surplus charcoal is a GOOD sign because it's indicating all the available oxygen has been consumed and replaced with CO. The charcoal should always be the excess reactant.

So maybe there wasn't enough charcoal and you may have a leak in your car?? You can buy one of them battery-powered household CO meters and test your CO after like 3 hours.

Anyway, sorry it didn't work out for you. Your frustration is MY frustration.

 

[Bumblebee]

My mum managed to successfully ctb with co in her living room, she duct tapped all the windows and doors she only had a small bucket full, i was impressed. I tried in a tent 3 years after her death and i woke up 7 hours later still alive and pissed off so i went to work grumpy that night. Maybe it is the type of coal.. weird how we both failed in small spaces yet somehow my mother done it in a spacious living room!

 

[CaptainT]

That is a pickle...did you use a CO meter to measure the concentration? Because apparently just over 800ppm over 2-3 hours should kill you...

You said there there was only ash left? Hmm, all the times I've tested it, there was still a surplus of charcoal left in the hibachi. I kept thinking, "fuck, why is it out already?!?" However, when opening the door (and also inadvertently allowing some CO to escape) to place the meter inside, it still read above 999ppm after 3 hours! I'm thinking the surplus charcoal is a GOOD sign because it's indicating all the available oxygen has been consumed and replaced with CO. The charcoal should always be the excess reactant.

So maybe there wasn't enough charcoal and you may have a leak in your car?? You can buy one of them battery-powered household CO meters and test your CO after like 3 hours.

Anyway, sorry it didn't work out for you. Your frustration is MY frustration.

Thanks mate. Didn't use a meter as I'd used so much charcoal (2kg rather than the 1kg recommended for a small car). The fact that it was just ash when I woke up means it burnt fast, so that must have been a reason it failed, along with an air leak somewhere. There's no way I could have survived 1000+ppm for 7-8 hours after passing out. It's still a mystery!

My mum managed to successfully ctb with co in her living room, she duct tapped all the windows and doors she only had a small bucket full, i was impressed. I tried in a tent 3 years after her death and i woke up 7 hours later still alive and pissed off so i went to work grumpy that night. Maybe it is the type of coal.. weird how we both failed in small spaces yet somehow my mother done it in a spacious living room!

Sorry to hear about your mum's ctb @Bumblebee and your similar experience to mine. Did you have delayed side effects from the CO days/weeks/months after?

 

[Bumblebee]

Thanks mate. Didn't use a meter as I'd used so much charcoal (2kg rather than the 1kg recommended for a small car). The fact that it was just ash when I woke up means it burnt fast, so that must have been a reason it failed, along with an air leak somewhere. There's no way I could have survived 1000+ppm for 7-8 hours after passing out. It's still a mystery!

Sorry to hear about your mum's ctb @Bumblebee and your similar experience to mine. Did you have delayed side effects from the CO days/weeks/months after?

I cant really remember to be honest, it was last year summer time. If i did feel ill i probably never even realised it could of been because of that

 

[CaptainT]

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[Soul]

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[Edward1]

Thank you for giving us feedback on what happened.I too, am very disappointed. I've been studying this mega thread for a while now and had pretty much decided that this would be the way. I'm kinda left in a bit of conflict again about which way to go, which means further inevitable delay. I honestly didn't know it would be so complicated to ctb by a peaceful method.

 

[CaptainT]

Thank you for giving us feedback on what happened.I too, am very disappointed. I've been studying this mega thread for a while now and had pretty much decided that this would be the way. I'm kinda left in a bit of conflict again about which way to go, which means further inevitable delay. I honestly didn't know it would be so complicated to ctb by a peaceful method.

I'm trying again in a week's time so will let you know about different set ups / coals / bbqs / spaces when I get my CO meter

 

[Edward1]

I'm so poor at planning my ctb I feel I deserve nothing but to ctb...

 

[CaptainT]

I'm so poor at planning my ctb I feel I deserve nothing but to ctb...

Don't worry too much, with a small car (or bathroom) and 1 or 2 disposable bbqs it should be simple:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/disposable-bbq-car-method-co-simplified.25162/

 

[Edward1]

Thank you Captain *salutes

 

[DeepSleep]

Any input welcome. Not sure I'd do the CO method again as I'm so disappointed. Will revert back to SN as soon as it arrives in the post.

Can you just buy 3 different types of coal? Make a timelapse record with your phone to see how differently they smolder.
Maybe you can even post some pics here.

 

[CaptainT]

Can you just buy 3 different types of coal? Make a timelapse record with your phone to see how differently they smolder.
Maybe you can even post some pics here.

That's too much geek work, even for me ;) But I will be using 2 different types of charcoal this time - 2kg in a chimney starter and 2kg as disposable bbqs. So overkill, literally!

 

[veren4h92l]

Hi,
sorry your plan didn't work out.

I guess the most interfering part is the alcohol and valium, it might have been preventing your haemoglobin to stick to the monoxide enough.
Plus you may not even remember silly things you did while on alcohol + valium + monixide, you possibly opened the door because it got too airless or so.

But with even some monoxide you should have felt desorientated in time and body-ok-feeling-but-staggering-anyway.

Maybe you are affected a bit but will only know it for sure in a few days.

Then you may have overseen some covered vent holes in the back.

Or the charcoal did not burn poorly enough or the car was too spacious.

(How did you feel with all the heat, though? Can you remember?)

I'm very sorry.

 

[DeepSleep]

Or the charcoal did not burn poorly enough or the car was too spacious.

(How did you feel with all the heat, though? Can you remember?)

I'm very sorry.

Yeah, maybe its not even "real" coal (half-cooked pieces of wood) but some fancy crap made of pressed soot.

 

[Suilven]

I'm really disappointed to read this thread as CO in a vehicle is my preferred method.

I know from working on cars there are a lot more holes than you realise at first. Right where the rear lights are or where the spare wheel sits there can be holes straight to the outside.

I am thinking any attempt at this method needs a reliable CO meter and to not even get into the vehicle until it is reading 4 or preferably 5 figures.

I have a small campervan that I planned to take into complete wilderness. I have the spot marked out, I will not be disturbed for days.

I would deadlock the van and throw the keys in the front so that I can't get to them unless in 100% state of mind.

I do know there are vents and holes I need to seal up first. But I won't be able to open any doors or windows in my sleep.

I think now I will need to do a trial run to see if the ppm gets high enough.

As mentioned lots of people do this by accident in leaky tents with shitty disposable bbqs. It's cruel that it would fail when you do everything you can to maximise success.

Edit : apologies for responding to an old thread, I followed through from a much newer one and didn't realise.

 

[a.h]

Carbon monoxide in a car using a bucket of coals was my method for a long time until I went down the rabbit hole of SN. To cut a long story short I decided to just stop procrastinating and go for it yesterday.

Compact modern rental car. Drove to a beautiful part of the country and went to an off-season campsite where there are little shepherd's huts to sleep in, fire pits etc. Owner said I had the field to myself. Even gave me firewood and wished me happy bonfire night.

Felt really calm. Got my paperwork in order. Phoned my mum to tell her I loved her. Prepared the car by folding the back seats down, covering air vents with gorilla tape (although because it was such a modern compact car it was already well sealed). Placed a paving slab and some bricks in the boot (bought on the way in a hardware shop). Even put baking foil on the roof above the slab just in case of excess heat from the coals.

Started with a bit of vodka and my first 5mg valium at 7.30pm as I lit the 2kg bag of Webber charcoal in the chimney starter. Lots of smoke for 15 minutes then nice flames to evenly burn the coals. Had more vodka and a second valium which made me totally calm and zen. After 25 mins or so in the chimney I poured the coals out into a metal bucket (which had small holes in the side and bottom). Most were grey on the outside, red inside, some were still flaming a bit so I left them for another 10 minutes to chill.

Had my 3rd valium (so 15mg in total) and the rest of the vodka just after 8pm. Carried the bucket of coals into the boot of the car with heat-resistant builders gloves. Rested the bucket on two bricks on top of the paving slab. Shut the boot.

Got into the car quickly around 8.15pm. Sat in the drivers seat, reclined, pillow behind my neck. That's the last thing I remember. I've honestly never blacked out from booze or benzos before but I don't remember anything until waking up at around 4m shivering. No headache. No dizziness. No weird feelings (except the buzz of the alcohol and the calm of the valium).

I was absolutely gutted. Couldn't believe I'd slept around 8 hours in a small car with 2kg of hot coals and nothing happened. Opened the boot to see all the coals turned to ash.

Went back into my shepherd's hut and slept for the rest of the morning. So pissed off because such a tight looking plan failed (despite all the reading and preparation I'd done for months), the fact that I'd psyched myself up to finally do it (which is way harder than it sounds) and nothing happened.

Plus now I'm concerned why I felt no side-effects in the car at all. And no sickness/dizziness today. I've read that the long-term damage to having acute exposure to CO comes 2-40 days after the incident (something called Delayed Neurological Sequelea) which can be nasty....memory loss, Parkinson-like shaking, depression psychosis, weird gait etc. Happens to 40% of survivors apparently.

I just can't believe what looked like the perfect set-up in the perfect place failed. It makes you feel even worse when you're all ready to CTB and nothing happens.

* Was the volume of charcoal enough (1kg is usually ok for a car, I used 2kg)?
* Was the make of charcoal wrong (Webber briquettes is usually solid)?
* Was there a leak in the car (it was a small modern compact car and I'd sealed the vents)?
* Was exposure time too short (should be 2-3 hours max for death zone, I was in there for 8)?

Any input welcome. Not sure I'd do the CO method again as I'm so disappointed. Will revert back to SN as soon as it arrives in the post.

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NB: Hire car is fine. No smell (CO is odourless), no burn marks (make sure flames/smoke happens outside before bringing in and resting on bricks)
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A guy here said he used 4 kg and got 10000ppm of Co in 2 seat pick up.
I have tested with coals and professional meter and didn't get high readings. Neither with acids. But with gen I got 13 000ppm fast every time.

I got exposed to high concentration for few minutes (maybe 5000-6000ppm) when testing it after which I left the place and got very strong symptoms. I was very euphoric, felt good, couldn't think or make well any sentence, I felt I couldn't get enough air even I was breathing but was fine with it and I was very, very tired.

Later taking big breaths would hurt but nothing when breathing normally. I think I forgot more things after it but no other symptoms. I had no pain etc. later but I take opiates daily for other pain so I couldn't maybe tell.

 

[Farmmaa]

It sounds like there was just too much oxygen in the equation.
The trunk of a car isn't sealed nearly as well as the interior compartment , so it could be that the CO was escaping out the back.
You also said that you had holes in the bucket ? There should be no holes in the bucket or it is simply acting like a larger chimney starter and pulling too much O2 in.
Too much O2 and the charcoal produces more CO2 than CO

 

[APharmaDestroyedLife]

I'll do some more tests with different locations / types of charcoal. It can't be that hard, as you said so many people do it accidentally and in Asia they've got it down to a fine art

In Asia they certainly have it figured out. The guitar player from the band boston did it. A now gone member of this forum succeeded at it. This will be my method and if I have to do it 3 nights in a row to get it right I will... I would prefer Nitrogen gas but I have no way to acquire it. Honestlt I would prefer N, even SN. However I cant get a doctor to RX me an antiemtic because of my medical history. She thinks I would react badly to it, and I of course cant tell her " oh I only need it for a few days"


I ended up ordering it from an online pharmacy with an online doctors approval before they would dispense it, I even had to state the reason I thought I needed it. This all made me feel very confident it was legitimate. Now after talking with others, there is no way to test it and it could really be anything , even a sugar pill despite its convincing packaging. So CO is the way it will have to happen and I will be doing it sometime in the next 4 weeks. People die by accident this was all the time...it cant be that hard to pull of as long as the equipment is correct. Ventilation systems in cars vary greatly from car to car, and newer cars have lots of windows and AC vents, also openings into the car structure that you can not see that are behind covers, carpeting etc. Also what we call "hatchbacks or station wagons) have just way to many openings

 

[sooverallthingslife]

Portable generator instead of burning charcoal. Websites claim the exhaust is equal to 400+ cars. Kills within minutes or instantly.
I'd like to do this but comfy in my bedroom not in a car.
Any thoughts????

 

[Skyview]

We get ice storms which downs power lines , people use portable generators in their garages which are attached to the house and some die because there is not sufficient ventilation .

 

[TheTraveller]

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thank you Captain, I appreciate it, shouldn't be this hard

 

[HoplessWanderer]

This is exactly the same steps I have been planning on taking. Regardless of your success in it or not, I am going to make the same attempt using your steps. Maybe I will have more luck than you good sir! Perhaps duck taping any cracks in the vehicle will help hold the CO gas in a bit more. Wish me luck. and sorry for posting 5 months late to this thread, ha ha!

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

This is exactly the same steps I have been planning on taking. Regardless of your success in it or not, I am going to make the same attempt using your steps. Maybe I will have more luck than you good sir! Perhaps duck taping any cracks in the vehicle will help hold the CO gas in a bit more. Wish me luck. and sorry for posting 5 months late to this thread, ha ha!

If it were me, I wouldn't put the coals in the trunk, I would have them in the car and close to me. I would also let the CO build up in the car for a while before entering.

 

[a.h]

If it were me, I wouldn't put the coals in the trunk, I would have them in the car and close to me. I would also let the CO build up in the car for a while before entering.

I think he kept the cover (hat cover) of the trunk inside the car open.

Only person who said here that he got 10000ppm, meaning 1%, CO with coals used 4 kg in car that had just 2 seats. I think meter is must with coals.
If it where me I would fill the car with generator then holding breath go inside and close the door.
With 1% CO there is no way to get failure. Lower high doses give nice euphoria before making people fall in deep sleep in minutes. If there is no ventilation they get knocked out while sleeping and then go to afterlife.

 

[Konolomn]

This is gonna be my method to cbt despite the failure rates,looks like the people who survived from this either didn't seal all the holes in the car/tent or were drunk,and I wouldnt be surprised if the annoying SI will make me open the door or break the tent in the middle of unconsciousess, it is possible that's why I will lock the door and throw the keys or secure the tents and seal it from the outsid, best of luck everyone

I hope everyone will find their peace when they are ready to

 

[yellowjasmine88]

Portable generator instead of burning charcoal. Websites claim the exhaust is equal to 400+ cars. Kills within minutes or instantly.
I'd like to do this but comfy in my bedroom not in a car.
Any thoughts????

Sorry if it's ignorant, but what's such a generator otherwise used for?

And if you are right, it seems like a painless method, any more thoughts on this?