I don't want to die but it's the only solution

[Pcgamer1]

Right now I don't want to die but it's the only solution. No one cares about the homeless and I think death is the best solution. I don't see how I'm going to be able to pay rent in the long run. I don't have the money to leave California, I don't have social connections outside of California and I don't think I could make new ones outside of California. There's so many people in my area fighting against homeless housing so they can inflate their property values. America is such a morally bankrupt society. And pretty much all the other English speaking countries are the same. In Canada they're now offering medically assisted suicide and there's been people that took it because of the housing crisis.

 

[noaccount]

I'm really sorry about that fucking "person" in the other thread talking about people living without shelter and saying "the problem is, they therefore need to be even more politically disenfranchised too!" I mean that shitstain's account is already deactivated so that's good.

Look I hitchhiked across the continental US several times. You can get out. That's no guarantee it'll be BETTER than being in california but at least it'll be different and you'll be out.

 

[TigerFestival]

Right now I don't want to die but it's the only solution. No one cares about the homeless and I think death is the best solution. I don't see how I'm going to be able to pay rent in the long run. I don't have the money to leave California, I don't have social connections outside of California and I don't think I could make new ones outside of California. There's so many people in my area fighting against homeless housing so they can inflate their property values. America is such a morally bankrupt society. And pretty much all the other English speaking countries are the same. In Canada they're now offering medically assisted suicide and there's been people that took it because of the housing crisis.

I kind of feel you on that. Right now I'm currently unemployed, and sadly I'm unemployable due to being unemployed for 6 years, it doesn't help I receive pressure from my older brother who visits once or twice a year. I'm currently living with my parents and I know that when they die it's out on the streets for me, and what's worse is, even IF I find a job, it won't pay me enough to live off of, I know being homeless with a job is better than being homeless without one, but sadly it's not significantly better. I too don't want to die, but I sadly also feel that death maybe my only option. Sigh.

 

[Pcgamer1]

I'm really sorry about that fucking "person" in the other thread talking about people living without shelter and saying "the problem is, they therefore need to be even more politically disenfranchised too!" I mean that shitstain's account is already deactivated so that's good.

Look I hitchhiked across the continental US several times. You can get out. That's no guarantee it'll be BETTER than being in california but at least it'll be different and you'll be out.

Right now the bay area is the safest place for me because I'm transgender. Here it is socially unacceptable to be a conservative or be a transphobe. And also I don't have to worry about my state enacting anti trans laws. The only affordable solid blue state I know of is Illinois, but that's way too far away for me too move on a budget.

 

[noaccount]

it's only safer if you're alive, but yeah that makes sense. idk I guess around chicago you could try to arrange a guest-stay somewhere through helpx or a place on the intentional communities directory or something? california sounds terrifying tbh.

 

[Someone123]

I'm really sorry about that fucking "person" in the other thread talking about people living without shelter and saying "the problem is, they therefore need to be even more politically disenfranchised too!" I mean that shitstain's account is already deactivated so that's good.

Look I hitchhiked across the continental US several times. You can get out. That's no guarantee it'll be BETTER than being in california but at least it'll be different and you'll be out.

Hitchhiking is so dangerous- so many serial killers and serial rapists have found their victims this way. There are numerous well documented cases like this.

 

[noaccount]

Hitchhiking is so dangerous- so many serial killers and serial rapists have found their victims this way. There are numerous well documented cases like this.

I am so grateful that you are so concerned with people's safety - and I am confident that you, likewise, will warn all the women in your life to never cohabitate with men as partners since this is the situation in which they're overwhelmingly most likely to be raped and murdered, and that you'll be extra-sure to let any women who are dating law enforcement officers know that you are always there for them if they need support escaping or exit-planning since police are 400% as likely as men in the general public to batter their wives, and it's so beautiful and reassuring to know that you're out there telling all parents to make sure to never, ever bring their children to a Catholic church. Thank you ever so much for your service bby.

(The plural of anecdote is not fact. You've seen some sensationalized anecdotes in true-crime infotainment media - so you decide that it's your place, as someone with no experience doing a thing, to lecture people with years of expertise at it. No thanks.)

 

[Someone123]

I am so grateful that you are so concerned with people's safety - and I am confident that you, likewise, will warn all the women in your life to never cohabitate with men as partners since this is the situation in which they're overwhelmingly most likely to be raped and murdered, and that you'll be extra-sure to let any women who are dating law enforcement officers know that you are always there for them if they need support escaping or exit-planning since police are 400% as likely as men in the general public to batter their wives, and it's so beautiful and reassuring to know that you're out there telling all parents to make sure to never, ever bring their children to a Catholic church. Thank you ever so much for your service bby.

(The plural of anecdote is not fact. You've seen some sensationalized anecdotes in true-crime infotainment media - so you decide that it's your place, as someone with no experience doing a thing, to lecture people with years of expertise at it. No thanks.)

Edmind Kemper is a serial Killer who had ten victims, 7 of whom he met through hitchhiking. Donald Henry Gaskins was convicted of eight murders, some of whom he found through hitchhiking, The Santa Rosa hitchhiker murders included seven victims, and the killer has never been found, In 2005 the FBI created the Highway Serial Killings Initiative and in the first year they caught ten truck drivers who killed a total of thirty women. The list goes on and on. Putting yourself at the mercy of someone you don't know in an environment they control and where they have the ability to isolate you so easily is a foolish risk. The details of these crimes have been reported in every kind of media source that there is. So yes, hitchiking is extremely dangerous, much moreso that co-habitating or than having a police officer as a partner. Yes, I am concerned that people should not see this as a safe way to travel.

 

[FuneralCry]

It really is such an awful world that we live in where so many people are trapped in low quality lives. I'm sorry that life has brought you to this point, it must be so hard being in that situation. Best wishes.

 

[Final-push123]

Man I know the feeling, I need to get my bus ticket while I can still able to afford it.

It sucks being to poor to live, although I had a good start but threw it all away

 

[Superdeterminist]

Right now I don't want to die but it's the only solution. No one cares about the homeless and I think death is the best solution. I don't see how I'm going to be able to pay rent in the long run. I don't have the money to leave California, I don't have social connections outside of California and I don't think I could make new ones outside of California. There's so many people in my area fighting against homeless housing so they can inflate their property values. America is such a morally bankrupt society. And pretty much all the other English speaking countries are the same. In Canada they're now offering medically assisted suicide and there's been people that took it because of the housing crisis.

I recently saw a post on Reddit which consisted of complaining about Canada's progress with assisted suicide, they were insisting it's a bad move and that poor people were being "forced" to euthanise themselves. Sounds like a crock of shit to me. I mean, in a sense these people are forced, in the way that you describe it. But they didn't mean it like that. They think there are other options for the impoverished which were somehow denied to them by the government...which are ???. Of course, they removed my comment telling them that despite their endless platitudes about life getting better, the poor continue to suffer, so at least don't get in the way of those who've decided they've had enough.​

 

[noaccount]

Coercion absolutely is happening with the MAID program in Canada, recent conversation about it here.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

I am so grateful that you are so concerned with people's safety - and I am confident that you, likewise, will warn all the women in your life to never cohabitate with men as partners since this is the situation in which they're overwhelmingly most likely to be raped and murdered, and that you'll be extra-sure to let any women who are dating law enforcement officers know that you are always there for them if they need support escaping or exit-planning since police are 400% as likely as men in the general public to batter their wives, and it's so beautiful and reassuring to know that you're out there telling all parents to make sure to never, ever bring their children to a Catholic church. Thank you ever so much for your service bby.

(The plural of anecdote is not fact. You've seen some sensationalized anecdotes in true-crime infotainment media - so you decide that it's your place, as someone with no experience doing a thing, to lecture people with years of expertise at it. No thanks.)

Yeah man I was homeless for a very long time and hitchhiked as well. A new female travelers that were smaller than me and had a dog and traveled all over the country nothing ever happened to them. Sure a lot of them do travel in packs. It's always good to have a road dog with you or even a crew. Anyway there's a chance of that happening wherever you go not only if your hitchhiking or homeless. I definitely agree that people who have never been in that situation should speak on it.

 

[Someone123]

Yeah man I was homeless for a very long time and hitchhiked as well. A new female travelers that were smaller than me and had a dog and traveled all over the country nothing ever happened to them. Sure a lot of them do travel in packs. It's always good to have a road dog with you or even a crew. Anyway there's a chance of that happening wherever you go not only if your hitchhiking or homeless. I definitely agree that people who have never been in that situation should speak on it.

When you know of many cases of people who have been raped and murdered in a situation, and it is clear why because they are isolated in a situation with someone they don't know, someone who controls the situation, it certainly is something that they should be able to present and discuss- the discussion should not be limited to those who have taken this risk which has been proven to be far too risky. Robert Ben Rhoades is another example of a seerial killer truck driver who was convited of 3 murders but who is suspected of up to 50. He literally tortured women for days in the back of his cab before killing them. Hitchhiking should not be presented as a safe form of transportation when there have been so many cases proving otherwise.

 

[noaccount]

The plural of anecdote still isn't fact sweetie. Data says you're wrong. Over HALF OF FEMALE HOMICIDE VICTIMS are killed by a known intimate partner. EVERY ELEVEN MINUTES a woman is killed in her home. Violence against women in homes with a cop is over quadrupled in its frequency. ONE IN FOUR American women who go to college are sexually assaulted there, most by SOMEONE THEY KNOW. You have no leg to stand on and no one wants your moralizing or concern trolling.

 

[TheDoomedDoomer]

Right now I don't want to die but it's the only solution. No one cares about the homeless and I think death is the best solution. I don't see how I'm going to be able to pay rent in the long run. I don't have the money to leave California, I don't have social connections outside of California and I don't think I could make new ones outside of California. There's so many people in my area fighting against homeless housing so they can inflate their property values. America is such a morally bankrupt society. And pretty much all the other English speaking countries are the same. In Canada they're now offering medically assisted suicide and there's been people that took it because of the housing crisis.

I understand your pain and situation completely. I too don't want to die at least not yet anyway as I'd like to travel and see some cool places before I check out. But the cost of living is too high and most jobs aren't keeping up with it. Not only that but it's hard to even hold a job and do this shit for the next 50 years when you know it's barely paying enough for basic needs let alone being about to at least make enough for that. I feel as though the majority are just slaves in this system being exploited and used up then tossed away like trash when we're no longer profitable.

 

[Superdeterminist]

Coercion absolutely is happening with the MAID program in Canada, recent conversation about it here.

Possibly, although I'm skeptical. It doesn't mean suicide shouldn't still be an option. If the government is not offering alternatives, what is to be done? If no one wants to help, then no one wants to help.It sucks, but then life sucks I guess...

Do we need to demand more and it will eventually come? I'm glad to see people campaigning in that way. But if no one wants to pay for services to improve lives right now, what can we honestly do? Was there ever a time where everyone's needs were adequately met? It seems that the problem of inadequate services has always been with us. So given this terrible fact, we need the option to die, at the very least.

 

[Someone123]

The plural of anecdote still isn't fact sweetie. Data says you're wrong. Over HALF OF FEMALE HOMICIDE VICTIMS are killed by a known intimate partner. EVERY ELEVEN MINUTES a woman is killed in her home. Violence against women in homes with a cop is over quadrupled in its frequency. ONE IN FOUR American women who go to college are sexually assaulted there, most by SOMEONE THEY KNOW. You have no leg to stand on and no one wants your moralizing or concern trolling.

This is not in any way moralizing and it is not trolling to say that this is a dangerous situation- you present this as a safe way to travel, and this is much more dangerous if someone believes this. Hitchhiking is very dangerous because a bad guy can control and isolate a person very easily- getting into a vehicle with someone you don't know is a foolish risk in my opinion- other people are entitled to their opinions, but numerous documented cases of this turning out very badly show that this is not a safe way to travel. How many times have you heard of these types of assaults happening on a bus? It never happens because of all the witnesses there. So getting money together for a bus ticket is a much safer way to travel. So the alternative to hitchhiking is a bus, and the domestic violence has nothing to do with this- the issue is- what is a safe way to travel.

 

[noaccount]

How many times have you heard of these types of assaults happening on a bus? It never happens because of all the witnesses there.

You poor idiot.

Rider beware: Channel 4 investigates sexual assaults on Greyhound buses

Channel 4 Action News' Jim Parsons investigates sexual assaults on Greyhound buses.

www.wtae.com

(Multiple locales, 2011-2012)

Teen reports sexual assault on Greyhound bus bound for RVA

A trip on a Greyhound bus to Richmond took a disturbing turn after a juvenile reported being sexually assaulted.

www.nbc12.com

(Virgina, 2014)

Sex offender, just out of prison, sexually assaults woman on Greyhound Bus, police say

A man on his way from prison in Iowa to California is accused of sexually assaulting a woman while on a Greyhound Bus near Vernal Friday night, police say. On Wednesday night, Vernal police arrested 64-year-old Gregory Kehl for sexually assaulting a female passenger and exposing himself on a...

kutv.com

(Iowa, 2020)

Pregnant woman says she was sexually assaulted on a Greyhound bus

An Ottawa woman, 3 months pregnant, was the victim of an alleged sexual assault on a Greyhound bus traveling from Sault Ste. Marie to Ottawa. Her mother is furious, claiming she called Greyhound to notify them it was happening and the person who answered didn't do anything to help stop it.

ottawa.ctvnews.ca

(Canada, 2015)

Longview Girl Claims Sexual Assault On Greyhound Bus

An East Texas girl riding on a Greyhound bus from Dallas to Longview, says she was sexually assaulted on the way. When the bus stopped, the 12-year-old Longview girl went to police.

www.kltv.com

(Texas, 2005)

Special needs student sexually assaulted on school bus: lawsuit

A special needs girl in New Jersey was sexually assaulted on a school bus by another student — who filmed the entire ordeal, her family charged in a recent lawsuit. The suit, filed last month…

nypost.com

(New Jersey, 2017, ON A TOWN SCHOOL BUS)

Man accused of 7 sex assaults in 1 day on Hawaii bus

Honolulu prosecutors stated a man is facing seven charges of sexual assault in the fourth degree after multiple incidents that occurred on the City bus.

www.khon2.com

(Hawaii, 2020)

Woman suing Amtrak in Montana Hi-Line rape case

Attorneys for the woman who was raped on the Empire Builder train in 2015 say the carrier failed to protect her from an employee with a criminal history

www.greatfallstribune.com

(Montana, 2017)

A woman on a SEPTA train was sexually assaulted while other riders failed to intervene, authorities say | CNN

A woman was allegedly sexually assaulted on a transit train in Philadelphia last week even as a number of witnesses failed to stop the incident or call police, authorities said.

www.cnn.com

(Pennsylvania, 2021) "SEPTA police chief Thomas Nestel III said there were "very few" notifications to police about the incident even though there were people on the train with phones in their hands who witnessed the alleged rape take place. He said SEPTA Police got one call and Philadelphia 911 received no calls, and he hadn't heard back from Delaware County 911.
Asked if passengers on the train recorded the incident on their phone and posted video on social media, "I can tell you people were holding their phone up in the direction of this woman being attacked," he said."

Tackling sexual assault on public transport

As commuting makes a comeback, viruses are far from the only threat

www.newstatesman.com

(Multiple locales, 2021) "A 2020 YouGov survey found 55 per cent of women and 21 per cent of men had experienced harassment or assault on public transport in London, although 90 per cent of harassment is still not reported."

Cities where sexual harassment on public transport is worst

In London, covert police patrols aim to catch abusers in the act; in some other cities apps let travellers alert fellow transport users and report abusers; others still have deployed women-only train carriages and buses.

www.scmp.com

(Multiple locales, 2019) "Relentless sexual harassment and abuse is the daily norm for so many young women and girls on our city streets," says Anne-Birgitte Albrectsen, CEO of Plan International."

 

[Someone123]

You poor idiot.

Rider beware: Channel 4 investigates sexual assaults on Greyhound buses

Channel 4 Action News' Jim Parsons investigates sexual assaults on Greyhound buses.

www.wtae.com

Teen reports sexual assault on Greyhound bus bound for RVA

A trip on a Greyhound bus to Richmond took a disturbing turn after a juvenile reported being sexually assaulted.

www.nbc12.com

(Virgina, 2014)

Sex offender, just out of prison, sexually assaults woman on Greyhound Bus, police say

A man on his way from prison in Iowa to California is accused of sexually assaulting a woman while on a Greyhound Bus near Vernal Friday night, police say. On Wednesday night, Vernal police arrested 64-year-old Gregory Kehl for sexually assaulting a female passenger and exposing himself on a...

kutv.com

Pregnant woman says she was sexually assaulted on a Greyhound bus

An Ottawa woman, 3 months pregnant, was the victim of an alleged sexual assault on a Greyhound bus traveling from Sault Ste. Marie to Ottawa. Her mother is furious, claiming she called Greyhound to notify them it was happening and the person who answered didn't do anything to help stop it.

ottawa.ctvnews.ca

(Canada, 2015)

Longview Girl Claims Sexual Assault On Greyhound Bus

An East Texas girl riding on a Greyhound bus from Dallas to Longview, says she was sexually assaulted on the way. When the bus stopped, the 12-year-old Longview girl went to police.

www.kltv.com

Special needs student sexually assaulted on school bus: lawsuit

A special needs girl in New Jersey was sexually assaulted on a school bus by another student — who filmed the entire ordeal, her family charged in a recent lawsuit. The suit, filed last month…

nypost.com

(New Jersey, ON A SCHOOL BUS)

Man accused of 7 sex assaults in 1 day on Hawaii bus

Honolulu prosecutors stated a man is facing seven charges of sexual assault in the fourth degree after multiple incidents that occurred on the City bus.

www.khon2.com

Woman suing Amtrak in Montana Hi-Line rape case

Attorneys for the woman who was raped on the Empire Builder train in 2015 say the carrier failed to protect her from an employee with a criminal history

www.greatfallstribune.com

A woman on a SEPTA train was sexually assaulted while other riders failed to intervene, authorities say | CNN

A woman was allegedly sexually assaulted on a transit train in Philadelphia last week even as a number of witnesses failed to stop the incident or call police, authorities said.

www.cnn.com

Tackling sexual assault on public transport

As commuting makes a comeback, viruses are far from the only threat

www.newstatesman.com

(Pennsylvania, 2021) "SEPTA police chief Thomas Nestel III said there were "very few" notifications to police about the incident even though there were people on the train with phones in their hands who witnessed the alleged rape take place. He said SEPTA Police got one call and Philadelphia 911 received no calls, and he hadn't heard back from Delaware County 911.
Asked if passengers on the train recorded the incident on their phone and posted video on social media, "I can tell you people were holding their phone up in the direction of this woman being attacked," he said."

Cities where sexual harassment on public transport is worst

In London, covert police patrols aim to catch abusers in the act; in some other cities apps let travellers alert fellow transport users and report abusers; others still have deployed women-only train carriages and buses.

www.scmp.com

(Multiple locales, 2019) "Relentless sexual harassment and abuse is the daily norm for so many young women and girls on our city streets," says Anne-Birgitte Albrectsen, CEO of Plan International."

Yes it appears there are sexual assaults happening- but the kinds of assaults that happenh on trucks are not happening, where a person is chained and tortured for days and then killed- the types of assaults that happen in the back of a trcuk cab are often so much worse because the person is isolated.

 

[noaccount]

Again - your fearmongering anecdotes aren't facts, adults make their own life choices, and no one here is a child or needs you to tell them how to live.

 

[Someone123]

Again - your fearmongering anecdotes aren't facts, adults make their own life choices, and no one here is a child or needs you to tell them how to live.

You suggested hitchhiking and I have an opinion that it is way too dangerous, based on many relevant facts- people are allowed to offer their opinions on these threads- this is not like 1984 and you are not big brother, telling everyone what thoughts they are free to share or not share- it is a free country, and freedom of speech is central to this. Your attempts to suppress any opinions you do not agree with are the exact opposite of freedom of speech.

Again - your fearmongering anecdotes aren't facts

Every one of these stories is factual and this can be verified by checking these stories out on very credible news sources online.

 

[Someone123]

no one here is a child or needs you to tell them how to live.

You suggested to them how to live- you suggested hitchhiking. I suggested what I think is a safer alternative. So it's ok for you to suggest things to others for how to live but it's not ok for anyone else to suggest something unless it has your approval first? In other words, you have the right to control everyone else's thoughts and opinions in every way? No you don't.

If somebody presents something as a safe option and you have a lot of information that it is not a safe option then it is a caring thing to do to let them know why it is not a safe option- it's still their decision, but to let people know about downside risks is a caring thing. They can still choose what to do, but based on a more informed opinion.

The idea of these thread is that people with varying opinions can comment on them. However, I am consistently reespectful in my comments and this hasn't been the case for yo9u.

 

[noaccount]

They mentioned money being an issue and not everyone can afford mass transit. I literally didn't even tell them what to do, just said that I myself had done it to get out of bad places while broke.

Oh hey Covid sure sounds like a pretty slow and torturous way to die and that's running rampant on buses and trains now

COVID-19 Outbreaks and Mortality Among Public...

This report describes the mortality rate of public transportation workers from illness caused by COVID-19 infection.

www.cdc.gov

Covid plagues mass transit, leading to staff shortages, service disruptions

Some public transportation systems, including those in Atlanta and Portland, Ore., will start reducing services next week

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Pcgamer1]

Coercion absolutely is happening with the MAID program in Canada, recent conversation about it here.

That's really horrible, no one should be brought to commit suicide over housing

 

[noaccount]

Hey I am sorry this thread got off topic and I hope things don't keep you feeling so trapped for much longer