I don't only hate humanity, also hate the "natural" world

[pls.deleteallmypost]

I usually hear people complain about society and I completely agree with them, society and humanity are nothing but shit. However I still think that even if we lived in an "utopical" or "perfect" society this world would still be a fucked up place. Just for giving some examples I can talk about natural disasters, people being born with horrible conditions for no reason, and the fact that we are all condemned to age and have our bodies more and more fucked up over time. Of course society just makes this situation even worse with wars, poverty, etc, but no matter what we do this world will be always a bad joke. I know I'm not saying anything new but I just really needed to vent this. I don't understand how people learn to accept this reality, I just can't. I wanna get the fuck out of here.
As I usually say, sorry if my english isn't the best, I'm from Southamerica.

 

[darkwater]

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Life itself is suffering. Whether human or animal, you are thrown into this world and the only purpose is to survive to reproduce. Alongside that is murder and disease. And the circle repeats itself.

 

[finish.me]

yes. same. i hate this shit. Even thinking about the cycle of life and how violent animals and the world is regardless of human presence fucking bothers me to no end.

 

[pls.deleteallmypost]

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Life itself is suffering. Whether human or animal, you are thrown into this world and the only purpose is to survive to reproduce. Alongside that is murder and disease. And the circle repeats itself.

We also had the bad luck of belonging to the only one species that is 100% conscious of all this shit

 

[rainwillneverstop]

i used to enjoy life
i know it can be good, i remember i had good emotions, everything was OK.
but things can turn for one reason or the other.

it's not so black and white.

 

[Forever Sleep]

We also had the bad luck of belonging to the only one species that is 100% conscious of all this shit

I think that's largely the problem. I don't wish to belittle the intelligence or emotional capability of other animals (I think we do that a lot) but I'm not sure that animals think 'this isn't fair', 'this is totally immoral' as they are being eaten alive or suffering in some other awful way.

Sometimes I feel like consciousness is a curse. Does make me wonder what evolutionary edge consciousness has given us if it quite often leads to seeing the world as it probably is. Ending up depressed, choosing not to bring children into said awful world and cutting it all short early via suicide.

 

[again_noidea]

I think that's largely the problem. I don't wish to belittle the intelligence or emotional capability of other animals (I think we do that a lot) but I'm not sure that animals think 'this isn't fair', 'this is totally immoral' as they are being eaten alive or suffering in some other awful way.

Sometimes I feel like consciousness is a curse. Does make me wonder what evolutionary edge consciousness has given us if it quite often leads to seeing the world as it probably is. Ending up depressed, choosing not to bring children into said awful world and cutting it all short early via suicide.

These are the big questions. Religions and civilizations were built upon the answers. But not every human asks these questions, and those who ask do it with different intensities and in different circumstances. For some it ends in suicide. But my guess is, that most people kill themselves because of much more mundane things, such as money, a broken marriage, lost honer and so on.

 

[FuneralCry]

I think that life shouldn't be a thing in the first place and that existence is completely unnecessary. Life is just suffering for no purpose and no reason. I dislike everything about living and life itself is extremely cruel and unfair. To me, non existence is always preferable to being alive and I could never want to live no matter what happens. With life, comes the potential to suffer to such great extents. I think that the idea that life is a positive thing is a delusion. The reality is that existence is so horrifying and that being born is the worst thing possible.

 

[Un-]

I don't give a shit about philosophy, but this is literally what I've been saying for a while. Life is suffering, after all, and I'm tired of.. The attitude that animals are any different. Humans are animals. Every living thing on this planet are both victims and perpetrators of this gigantic shit stain.

That being said, I agree with @rainwillneverstop that you can enjoy life. I think it's.. You can't deny that people are happy. There are happy people out there. We're.. Everyone. Everyone is delusional about something. Something that'll help them get through the day. Life can be, and is good for some people. For some people, it's the worst thing ever. I don't know where I'm going with this, heh. There's no conclusion to this type of thinking.

Like, what the fuck do you wanna do about it, all-knowing sage? So what if life is suffering? What the fuck are you gonna do? Eliminate all of life? Goodluck trying. It makes no difference realising this shit or not, hence why I don't give a shit anymore. I'm gonna die believing this shit, and not even a cockroach will lose sleep. Sometime down the line, another person who thinks he's the second coming of Christ will believe the same shit, and he'll die. And then the sun will implode and destroy everything, and everything will turn to dust. And that speck of dust won't give two shits whether or not life is suffering or not.

This sounds hostile. It's not. I'm just a very heavy nihilist, heh.

 

[pls.deleteallmypost]

i used to enjoy life
i know it can be good, i remember i had good emotions, everything was OK.
but things can turn for one reason or the other.

it's not so black and white.

Agree. I also used to enjoy life. But my problem was growing up and slowly starting to understand things a little better. I also agree that this process isn't black and white. It took me years to get suicidal, I was in the "gray zone" for a long time. And I'm too scared that I may be worse in some more years. Of course everyone's process is different, this is just what happened to me.

 

[7b48hl]

I usually hear people complain about society and I completely agree with them, society and humanity are nothing but shit. However I still think that even if we lived in an "utopical" or "perfect" society this world would still be a fucked up place. Just for giving some examples I can talk about natural disasters, people being born with horrible conditions for no reason, and the fact that we are all condemned to age and have our bodies more and more fucked up over time. Of course society just makes this situation even worse with wars, poverty, etc, but no matter what we do this world will be always a bad joke. I know I'm not saying anything new but I just really needed to vent this. I don't understand how people learn to accept this reality, I just can't. I wanna get the fuck out of here.
As I usually say, sorry if my english isn't the best, I'm from Southamerica.

Efilism ftw

 

[pls.deleteallmypost]

Efilism ftw

Had to google it but yeah, I guess I can feel identified with that

 

[Messgram]

Efilism ftw

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[BluesRunTheGame]

Yeah and that's not even the rest of the natural world, which is BRUTAL.

TW/NSFW/Will probably fuck you up watching these animals eat another animal alive.

 

[Messgram]

Yeah and that's not even the rest of the natural world, which is BRUTAL.

TW/NSFW/Will probably fuck you up watching these animals eat another animal alive.

what's the point of all this? what is the meaning of so much suffering?

 

[Eternally Dottie]

Yeah and that's not even the rest of the natural world, which is BRUTAL.

TW/NSFW/Will probably fuck you up watching these animals eat another animal alive.

Nope. Had to stop watching

 

[Poisonblood]

Most of us are here on this website because of how other people treated us. Nature is not to blame. If anything, Nature is also a victim of humans.

 

[Messgram]

Nature is not to blame... Nature is also a victim of humans.

You forgot we were created by nature.

 

[pls.deleteallmypost]

Most of us are here on this website because of how other people treated us. Nature is not to blame. If anything, Nature is also a victim of humans.

Yeah but there are also a lot of people who are suffering because of illness or horrible conditions we don't have cure for. People who are born deaf, blind, can't walk of get ELA. Even in a perfect society we would still have those problems.

 

[DrWh033]

Most of us are here on this website because of how other people treated us. Nature is not to blame. If anything, Nature is also a victim of humans.

Not really.
There are tons of people with physical diseases, mental diseases, chronic pain, accidents and disability, disfigured, in griefing due to death of loved ones etc Not everyone here is due to abuse of other people.

 

[Poisonblood]

My bad, I didn't take people with disabilities and those who lost loved ones into consideration. But my point remains that even Nature gets abused by humans. Maybe it's just me but I prefer Nature over humans.

 

[want2dienow]

It is a clique

 

[DisillusionedDragon]

Yes. Existence is gruesome insanity for every sentient being. Driven by endless needs/desires, trying to avoid the suffering that comes with not meeting them, but in the process inevitably making other beings suffer. But you can't outrun suffering, it will always get to you, no matter how hard you try. Some get more of it than others, but everyone does to some extend.
And what is it all for? To continue this pointless cycle of suffering by creating more sentient beings to suffer and get devoured?
Those few fleeting moments of happiness when one fulfills a need/desire does not remotely justify existence for me and never will.

As Ligotti put it, life is MALIGNANTLY USELESS at best and I wish the chaos of the universe never created it.

Like you, I will also never be able to or even want to be okay with this reality and want to get out of here asap. Others either don't see reality for what it is and are caught up in their stupid little lives or try to ignore it by distracting themselves. I am also forced to try to distract myself as much as I can, otherwise existing would be unbearable. Being aware of all the pointless suffering and the workings of the world really is too much to take. I agree, we are especially unlucky because of our (potential) awareness of all this, but suffering isn't a uniquely human experience. It's what makes the world go 'round.

 

[Resinn66]

We also had the bad luck of belonging to the only one species that is 100% conscious of all this shit

Not only bad luck in the sense to be the only species on our planet but also perhaps being the only one in the entire universe

 

[Winterreise]

Humans are faulty, despondent and hypocritical. But we have and should keep developing a system that takes care of us, protects us. A system that is above the frailty of human kind. That can withstand faulty leadership.

 

[Snatsbats]

Its all about dopamine shots in the brain. Everything we do in this world is for some dopamine. Every problem we fix, entertainment, love, reproduction, eating, helping others. If there wasnt dopamine release there is no purpose anymore

 

[Astral Storm]

This is the source of my grief. This is the only reason I truly want to live this place. I look at the world and I see so much meaningless suffering everywhere.

Life is nothing but a field of endless violence and cruelty where every being kills the other one for nothing. There are these poor animals who eat each other alive and have to suffer for no reason. It is a mass of chaos where we mindlessly hurt and consume others.

The worst thing is that we even want to perpetuate this hell. If so, then we didn't learn anything from our faults. We will always be cruel to each other and we will always mutilate others for our selfish pleasures. There will be wars, murder, torture, death and suffering right until the end of the universe. I really hope that there's an end and it's not cyclical. It's all so sick and twisted.

There's no existence without exploitation and violence. There's continous screaming every single second. This place favours violence to make new fodder to suffer then die again and again. This world and existence cannot be justified in any way. It's way better to not come into existence as even my mere existence is harm and violence to others.

No amount of useless pleasure can justify what's happening. Millions years of brutal torment for nothing. Nothing will ever make this abomination worth it which is life itself. It's a rotten system of endless decay, torture and death that deserves to be broken forever.

 

[Life interrupted]

I think only stupid ppl reproduce

 

[suicidalwillreturn]

I think only stupid ppl reproduce

unless you have generational wealth. They say money can't buy happiness. Yeah i agree that it cant buy true happiness but at least w/ a ton of money you can cope until whenever you want. Having a safety net whenever you do something stupid would keep people from offing themselves, up until they have experienced everything in life that can be bought.

 

[Life interrupted]

unless you have generational wealth. They say money can't buy happiness. Yeah i agree that it cant buy true happiness but at least w/ a ton of money you can cope until whenever you want. Having a safety net whenever you do something stupid would keep people from offing themselves, up until they have experienced everything in life that can be bought.

I see your point but tbh I'd rather not exist at all. This world is a fucked up place and nothing can change that.