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Leiden

Arcanist
Sep 1, 2020
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I can't get over the fact that we don't have the ability to acquire N anymore. It kills me that this is no longer an option. I'm so devastated over this. There's no other way that seems plausible to me. Life is so unfair in every way possible.....I mean... obviously!
 
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Adûnâi

Adûnâi

Little Russian in-cel
Apr 25, 2020
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I only effectively joined in September 2023, so I have no idea what N even is (aside from the name). Was it much better than SN? (I actually thought N was a gas.)
 
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parasite_eve

Between life and death; a secret third thing.
Jan 3, 2025
150
I only effectively joined in September 2023, so I have no idea what N even is (aside from the name). Was it much better than SN? (I actually thought N was a gas.)
You'd be right periodic-tabley speaking, but here n = nembutal and n2 = nitrogen

There's some helpful resources and guides pinned

Long story short - n was the closest to a peaceful death potion one could take for a happy self-deliverance, now long Restricted
 
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Adûnâi

Little Russian in-cel
Apr 25, 2020
1,099
Long story short - n was the closest to a peaceful death potion one could take for a happy self-deliverance, now long Restricted
But SN isn't that bad either, right? Sure, it's not the most peaceful one, but still better than bleeding our, or burning, or losing limbs one by one, or... you get the point.

Or is SN actually bad? Because I have seen some worrying reports (some literally false ones though, probably by our venerable pro-life bros, love them so much).
 
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Leiden

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Sep 1, 2020
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But SN isn't that bad either, right? Sure, it's not the most peaceful one, but still better than bleeding our, or burning, or losing limbs one by one, or... you get the point.

Or is SN actually bad? Because I have seen some worrying reports (some literally false ones though, probably by our venerable pro-life bros, love them so much).
Everyone has their own opinion on SN. For me, it seems very scary and the things that people go through after taking it make me very terrified of it. That's just my opinion. It depends I would say on what you can withstand. Some people are able to jump in front of a train, I could not. It's all subjective. I'm not saying that I haven't thought about it and that I still am not thinking about it. The gold standard is gone and I'm severely devastated over it.
 
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Adûnâi

Adûnâi

Little Russian in-cel
Apr 25, 2020
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Everyone has their own opinion on SN. For me, it seems very scary and the things that people go through after taking it make me very terrified of it. That's just my opinion. It depends I would say on what you can withstand. Some people are able to jump in front of a train, I could not. It's all subjective. I'm not saying that I haven't thought about it and that I still am not thinking about it. The gold standard is gone and I'm severely devastated over it.
True, I'm very sorry : ( Would you mind specifying what exactly you dislike about SN? People are generally squeamish and wary to offend, so that's why you're not specifying it? From what I gathered, unconsciousness from SN follows after 20 min? But there can be gurgling inbetween - I guess, being out of breath and unable to speak sounds yucky : ( But again, the only real ways for me (for example) would be either SN or roping (as I can't jump anywhere, or drown), and roping sounds arguably worse or skill-demanding.
 
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J&L383

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Jul 18, 2023
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You'd be right periodic-tabley speaking, but here n = nembutal and n2 = nitrogen

There's some helpful resources and guides pinned

Long story short - n was the closest to a peaceful death potion one could take for a happy self-deliverance, now long Restricted
SN - Because NaNO2 is such a mouthful

N - Because C11H18N2O3 is even more of a mouthful.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
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I can't get over the fact that we don't have the ability to acquire N anymore. It kills me that this is no longer an option. I'm so devastated over this. There's no other way that seems plausible to me. Life is so unfair in every way possible.....I mean... obviously!
the evil monsters arrested D from "N from D" who sold Nembutal online. they stole our right to escape extreme suffering with a painless guaranteed way . i remember D sold Nembutal online in the PPH and people became aware of it here since at least 2018 to early 2022. D might have used other names like A etc. before like in 2019. They arrested D in early 2022.

people were paying D $750 for two bottles of Nembutal . that's certainly worth it to escape this hell. with inflation that would be around $1000 for 2 bottles now still worth it but there are no more sources

ok so i'm suffering severely for years . i know i want to exit this hell . i know things will get much worse and i'll be in extreme torture.
so who am i bothering by ordering from D to help me escape extreme torture? why is that the governments or anyone's business . that i want to spend my $750 to escape extreme suffering . why would anyone want to stop that and arrest D? that's pure evil to block people a way out of unbearable pain. it's like if we are in a burning building and we want to go out the door and someone charges me $750 for the key to the door and i agree but they say you can't leave the building you can't buy that key you have to slowly burn to death . no i want to open the door to freedom which is non-existence even if i had what they call a good life much more do i want that if i;m suffering. who wouldn't want to open the door to stop upcoming unbearable pain? this is the situation we are all in. we are all in a burning building or a building that will start to burn and then we'd be trapped . the fire hasn't reached us yet. but they locked the door and jailed any seller of keys. how is this logical to lock the door and make it a crime to sell the key . especially since we all will die anyway.

imo Nembutal was available online for around 20 years. the last few years mainly from N from D . i remember Nembutal was available at least from 2018 to 2022 from N from D who went by other names . that;s when i became aware of D . but i think D and others were able to send nembutal by package to residences from at least 2004 to 2022 . they arrested D in 2022.
 
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darkenmydoorstep

Not Waving But Browned Off….
Sep 27, 2023
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I can't get over the fact that we don't have the ability to acquire N anymore. It kills me that this is no longer an option. I'm so devastated over this. There's no other way that seems plausible to me. Life is so unfair in every way possible.....I mean... obviously!
I feel the same. Don't have the funds to squander thousands on a 'maybe' trip to Peru. My best hope is that I get some disease and the right to die bill (or whatever it's called) gets pushed through quick (UK).
Nembutal is the compassionate death. It disgusts me that people have gone out of their way to deny it to others. What a revolting world we live in where society presents this as a good thing and would rather people feel compelled to attempt painful, grisly unreliable methods.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
40,999
I understand as I wish for Nembutal as well and I suffer so much from how I'm so cruelly denied that option, it's just horrific to me how painless ways to be free from all the suffering with no risks of trying to die going wrong are denied with the torture of existing seen as to prolong no matter what. I wish I had Nembutal more than anything, all I wish for is to fall into an eternal dreamless sleep and never suffer ever again with this existence finally all forgotten about, it'd bring me so much peace to finally be able to cease existing.
 
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parasite_eve

parasite_eve

Between life and death; a secret third thing.
Jan 3, 2025
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True, I'm very sorry : ( Would you mind specifying what exactly you dislike about SN? People are generally squeamish and wary to offend, so that's why you're not specifying it? From what I gathered, unconsciousness from SN follows after 20 min? But there can be gurgling inbetween - I guess, being out of breath and unable to speak sounds yucky : ( But again, the only real ways for me (for example) would be either SN or roping (as I can't jump anywhere, or drown), and roping sounds arguably worse or skill-demanding.
Recommed checking these resources and accounts:

For me personally, I think it'd be my backup after n2+eb (exit bag) because so peaceful and quick IF done properly. N2 is more technically involved with chances to err it you deviate from protocols (vs drinking 50ml with some pills), but I still worry about 15-30 mins possibly conscious with chance for fear from pain to interfere vs <1min passing out with n2.

But this is perhaps the most personal decision we can make with our lives and so totally get why others put sn #1; it's a very close #2 for me right now.
 
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