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Even if i try to suddenly change any of my destructive habits, replace them with something, I'd still feel disappointed and alone at times. That feeling gets so strong, so immense that i can't do anything but hold my head and cry due to the anxiety ( nights are even worse ). As a result i WANT to turn to coping, that too with destructive addictions but then it becomes a cycle of getting involved with my self destruction at the same time wanting not to.
I am all by myself for the most part, that is what makes everything so painful.
To make things worse, i don't just need to start doing the right things for my development to go through with it. I actually have to catch up for the two years i spent 'isolated' from people and from everything, workouts, academics, etc. Two years is a long time and as a result i now don't even have the ability to frame sentences as good.
I feel sick. I write it as if i calm while doing so but i feel so heavy, so fucking heavy that i could just go on venting about it, expressing my emotions through my fingers.

This is the only place i could seek some comfort at, so i am here.

If you could advice me on how i could work on things all by myself and cope with me being all by myself ( for the most time ), that would really helpful. Thank you guys.
I'd also appreciate any personal experiences or stories too by the way. Anything i believe, i just feel very heavy as i mentioned before. Thank you guys.
 
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It's rough and I'm not sure if I should say anything.

I don't know your situation, but I can tell you if you do nothing it will only get more difficult down the line. For me personally, I should have continued studying or get any job (and I had good reasons not to do it, that does not chance the fact that that's what I should have done), that's a good foundation to have. the longer I waited, the harder it gets. I no longer enjoy even my addictions, I just know the end is near.

If you are serious about getting better, I'd start from resuming studying or getting any job, even if it won't be the most fun, you can go from there. Don't expect somebody to come and fix it for you.

If you do nothing, it will only get harder.
Let's say you are 20. It will take you 5 years to fix stuff and then you have 50 more years of life.
Let's say you are 30. It will take you 10 years to fix stuff and then you have 35 more years of life.

I'm making the numbers up, but the longer you wait, the harder it will be to fix things and the less benefit you will get from fixing stuff. If you are now willing to start now because the cost/benefit, the cost/benefit will get worse over time, making you less likely to try. It's incredibly easy to fall back into addictions, destructive habits, self-sabotage.
 
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It's rough and I'm not sure if I should say anything.

I don't know your situation, but I can tell you if you do nothing it will only get more difficult down the line. For me personally, I should have continued studying or get any job (and I had good reasons not to do it, that does not chance the fact that that's what I should have done), that's a good foundation to have. the longer I waited, the harder it gets. I no longer enjoy even my addictions, I just know the end is near.

If you are serious about getting better, I'd start from resuming studying or getting any job, even if it won't be the most fun, you can go from there. Don't expect somebody to come and fix it for you.

If you do nothing, it will only get harder.
Let's say you are 20. It will take you 5 years to fix stuff and then you have 50 more years of life.
Let's say you are 30. It will take you 10 years to fix stuff and then you have 35 more years of life.

I'm making the numbers up, but the longer you wait, the harder it will be to fix things and the less benefit you will get from fixing stuff. If you are now willing to start now because the cost/benefit, the cost/benefit will get worse over time, making you less likely to try. It's incredibly easy to fall back into addictions, destructive habits, self-sabotage.
That feels really motivating, thankyou so much. I'd remember this, even bookmarked this. It's just that the thought of it never getting as good as before makes me really upsetting. To add to it, there's the hopelessness and clueless attitude of mine at the moment. It's like a complete restart and without people i don't know who to do it for. Also looking at too many things at once, having to catch up with everything and then put in more effort for my current level or whatever feels so tiring and long that i keep giving up midway. It sucks the point i am at in life. I'll remember your advice though, i appreciate the support.
 
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Even if i try to suddenly change any of my destructive habits, replace them with something, I'd still feel disappointed and alone at times. That feeling gets so strong, so immense that i can't do anything but hold my head and cry due to the anxiety ( nights are even worse ). As a result i WANT to turn to coping, that too with destructive addictions but then it becomes a cycle of getting involved with my self destruction at the same time wanting not to.
I am all by myself for the most part, that is what makes everything so painful.
To make things worse, i don't just need to start doing the right things for my development to go through with it. I actually have to catch up for the two years i spent 'isolated' from people and from everything, workouts, academics, etc. Two years is a long time and as a result i now don't even have the ability to frame sentences as good.
I feel sick. I write it as if i calm while doing so but i feel so heavy, so fucking heavy that i could just go on venting about it, expressing my emotions through my fingers.

This is the only place i could seek some comfort at, so i am here.

If you could advice me on how i could work on things all by myself and cope with me being all by myself ( for the most time ), that would really helpful. Thank you guys.
I'd also appreciate any personal experiences or stories too by the way. Anything i believe, i just feel very heavy as i mentioned before. Thank you guys.
I don't think there's a real practical solution to it, it's a matter of self resolve and a battle within the self. Loneliness is a great factor but even if you weren't alone the kind souls willing to help with something deep and obscure are incredibly rare and you wouldn't want to depend on someone else. Most people say they are kind and willing to help others but in the end they want to solve the easy problems of others to feel superior or better about themselves and when faced with a life that is truly problematic and burdened by pain and trauma and so on they shy away and even turn hostile.

I'm sorry if this is a bit too harsh.

Doctors are the only one who can be a life jacket for this feeling of being unable to reach out I think.
Two years is a long time but you can probably do it, relapses will always happen and you will still rebound to the old ways from time to time but this doesn't invalidate your struggle. The mere fact that you are in the recovery section shows that you still can face it and it's not bad to have this as a place of comfort.
What kind of academics are you into exactly?
 
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Jealous Blackheart

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Aug 25, 2023
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The desire for human connection is very powerful and there is no direct substitute for it. However, there are combinations of copes that can reduce the negative impacts of its absence.

If you could advice me on how i could work on things all by myself and cope with me being all by myself ( for the most time ), that would really helpful. Thank you guys.
I'd also appreciate any personal experiences or stories too by the way.

There are a few things I'm willing to share that I think could be of value. To start, I was raised from birth to do it alone. It was explained to me in my adulthood that the negligence I experienced as a child was intentional. So that I wouldn't grow up needing people. This was half successful. I grew up not wanting people, but unfortunately, whether we like it or not, we all need people in some capacity. All they did was raise an emotionally incompetent man with a higher tolerance for isolation than most, and a high degree of self-reliance.

I am only just discovering that my highest social motivator is competition (though in an absolute sense this is still low). Praise and shame have no effect on me. Tangible rewards and prestige are middling. Turns out I'm naturally antagonistic. Who would've guessed it? If I wanted to row a marathon I'd want to know what the best times are and then I'd want to be among the best at the very least. I don't care about medals. I don't need a cash prize, though that would be nice. And I don't need anyone there telling me they believe in me, or that I did a good job, or cheering me on. But without a best time to measure myself against the motivation to push myself to a certain time is entirely abstract. This still counts as needing other people.

The lesson here is to figure out exactly how you need other people in order to stay motivated. What does doing it for other people mean? What do you gain from doing it for someone else that you don't gain from doing it for yourself? You can't decide on a substitute if you don't know what role you need a substitute for.

That's the how to the doing part. Now how to cope with being by yourself.

A couple years ago I was finally able to figure out a major key to my progress by journaling. I was in a relationship and a situation arose that made me reflect a lot on my life. Here's a modified summary of the entry.

~~~
"[Ex] has a type. It's [type]. It's how she found me. I'm her type. I wasn't the only person she found. There was a man that she was seeing before me who re-entered her life. She chose to make herself available to him. All this because he has no one and wants support. She said he reminds her of me. But that she can't let him go through what I went through because he's used to having someone for support. Funny. That means he's nothing like me at all.

It's been a few days since we had our conversation but in talking less and thinking more and in revisiting past versions of myself, I found some memories.

Context. It starts with the fact that I was never nurtured for emotional expression. I have tried to fight this and it has not gone in my favor. The truth is that I have three emotional outlets: art, labor, and sex. Now I also have a journal. Talking about my feelings with others is useless to me."
~~~

I cut a lot out of it and the relationship portion is not important except as context to figuring this out, but the relevant parts are there. Talking things out, "being supported" (I don't even know what that means), and those traditional socials methods of comfort don't do anything for me at all. In previous attempts at recovery I did make an effort to seek and try some of these and they were neutral experiences at best. When experiencing burdensome emotions I found 3 outlets.

Art: Making or consuming it are both cathartic. This can take any form you choose. Music, painting, dance, poetry, etc. Instead of getting someone to listen to me talk I'd much rather do any of these.

Labour: This is any rewarding exertion. This could be working out, cleaning your house, longer hours at the office or more freelance jobs, anything that gets you paid more. The goal is to get out of yourself and pour yourself into something external and worthwhile that you will have something to show for by the end of it instead of dragging your emotions around with you everywhere.

i could just go on venting about it, expressing my emotions through my fingers.
Do it. If you feel as though you have so much inside of you that you could just go in writing about it, go on writing about it until there's nothing left to write.

As for destructive addictions. I used to self-harm a lot when I was younger. After I was released from the hospital and was stumbling about life trying to make sense of it all I ended up joining kickboxing. This might have looked like a positive change but really I was only doing it because it was socially acceptable self-harm. I had to beat my shins with a pvc pipe as part of my conditioning. I enjoyed it and overdoing it just looked like dedication. My trainer had to stop me and he took away the pipe. Just because you crave destruction and oblivion doesn't mean it can't manifest in a way that still benefits you in some way instead of sending you all the way back to zero.

If what you desire in companionship is someone to care for, you can always get a pet or a plant. Like I said at the start, there is no true substitute for human companionship, but some combination of these things might be enough to get you by as you continue on your recovery journey. Hope this helps.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I've lived alone for over 20 years so, I do have experience of that. I may have had less health challenges though. For me, as other members have said, fear of failure has been a great motivator for me in life.

I think joining a course or finding a job is a good motivator because it brings in the real prospect of failure. It's so easy to be complacent when you don't absolutely have to do something. Having real negative consequences, a structure and a goal helped me to focus.

Really though, in any given moment- we likely know what we should be doing. I've reached a stage where I'm so incredibly lazy. In all honesty, it pleases me to be lazy now. I know I can't fail completely though. At some point, I'll need to get my shit together. But- I know the chores I ought to be doing right now for instance. What should you be doing now?

I sort of suspect we all know. We just choose not to do them. I suppose you have to force yourself into a position where you have to do them. You have to get up and shower to go to work or study. You will have had to have washed your clothes and got food in, paid the bills etc. Have you lived alone before?
 

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