Hypothermia method?

[dust-in-the-wind]

If stay in my car all night in the below freezing cold with a winter jacket on, will I die,? I have xanax if that helps any?

 

[dontwakemeup]

I think that will he a miserable and slow way to die. I highly suggest you don't attempt this as a method.
There's this big story in Detroit. The mother and 2 kids lived in her van, she woke up and they did from hypothermia. I couldn't imagine. I wish we could get Nembutal and this all would be over soon

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

I read online it's painless but it can take a while.. I just want to know what is a good temp to be effective?

 

[dontwakemeup]

How long does it usually take? I just want to go to. I hope I don't wake up in the morning

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

How long does it usually take? I just want to go to. I hope I don't wake up in the morning

I think that depends on the temperature and how much body fat and clothes you have on. I can't find any info online about how long exect for jumping into freezing water. While the initial stages of freezing to death (hypothermia) can involve discomfort and shivering, as the body temperature drops significantly, a person will likely become unconscious and lose the ability to feel pain, meaning the final stages of freezing to death are not considered painful; however, the process leading up to that point can be very uncomfortable and disorienting.

 

[Crow_88]

Cold is a pretty brutal way to go. Its very painful. I wouldn't suggest this method.

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

I think that depends on the temperature and how much body fat and clothes you have on. I can't find any info online about how long exect for jumping into freezing water. While the initial stages of freezing to death (hypothermia) can involve discomfort and shivering, as the body temperature drops significantly, a person will likely become unconscious and lose the ability to feel pain, meaning the final stages of freezing to death are not considered painful; however, the process leading up to that point can be very uncomfortable and disorienting.

I've heard you can still die of hypothermia at 50 F and that's more comfortable because it prevents frostbite which is very painful. It's hard to say how long it would take in a car with insulating clothing, since you'd stay dry and you'd be warming yourself. There are so many variables in the car scenario that you might not be able to find any good estimates.

All I really know about hypothermia that I hate cold like the plague, and I'd be drinking so much Fireball Cinnamon Whiskey to get through it that I'd be more likely to die from alcohol poisoning than hypothermia.

 

[dontwakemeup]

I think that depends on the temperature and how much body fat and clothes you have on. I can't find any info online about how long exect for jumping into freezing water. While the initial stages of freezing to death (hypothermia) can involve discomfort and shivering, as the body temperature drops significantly, a person will likely become unconscious and lose the ability to feel pain, meaning the final stages of freezing to death are not considered painful; however, the process leading up to that point can be very uncomfortable and disorienting.

We should be able to go in peace if we want to. Least in the end you will be unconscious

 

[needthebus]

If stay in my car all night in the below freezing cold with a winter jacket on, will I die,? I have xanax if that helps any?

there's a risk of being found, having body parts amputated or even requiring 24/7 care, leading to a much more difficult time both with enjoying life or seeking death.

please don't do it

also good to see you posting @dust-in-the-wind

even if you're frustrated to be alive, i'm always happy to see you post

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

there's a risk of being found, having body parts amputated or even requiring 24/7 care, leading to a much more difficult time both with enjoying life or seeking death.

please don't do it

also good to see you posting @dust-in-the-wind

even if you're frustrated to be alive, i'm always happy to see you post

Thank you

I've heard you can still die of hypothermia at 50 F and that's more comfortable because it prevents frostbite which is very painful. It's hard to say how long it would take in a car with insulating clothing, since you'd stay dry and you'd be warming yourself. There are so many variables in the car scenario that you might not be able to find any good estimates.

All I really know about hypothermia that I hate cold like the plague, and I'd be drinking so much Fireball Cinnamon Whiskey to get through it that I'd be more likely to die from alcohol poisoning than hypothermia.

So frustrating! I just figured if I wore a coat it would take longer but it would be slightly less uncomfortable. I just had my xanax script refilled but don't want to use it on a failed attempt. It does say online you die fairly quickly in ice cold water but I can't even take a cold shower. My body recoils. But actually freezing death is supposed to be painless once your body stops shivering.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Here's a guide that includes hypothermia.

Hypothermia is probably painless after a certain point but imo can be painful freezing until u reach that point. Imo hypothermia isn't a good method.

Hypothermia & Diphenhydramine(chloride) method

Translation from the German book "Selbstbestimmtes Sterben. Sanfter Tod bei klarem Geist" Victor Niculescu Hypothermia & Diphenhydramine(chloride) "The lethal dose of Diphenhydramine(chloride) is 50mg per kg body weight. also required: Zopiclon 20 tablets Bromazepam or Triazolam 30-50...

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Report about a failed attempt:

Failed Hypothermia Attempt

I felt the need to share my story because I just discovered a thread of someone considering hypothermia as a method to cbt and pretty much every answer to his post was incorrect. First comment was "you don't need freezing temperatures to die from hypothermia", while technically correct, this...

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[L'absent]

Here's a guide that includes hypothermia.

Hypothermia is probably painless after a certain point but imo can be painful freezing until u reach that point. Imo hypothermia isn't a good method.

Hypothermia & Diphenhydramine(chloride) method

Translation from the German book "Selbstbestimmtes Sterben. Sanfter Tod bei klarem Geist" Victor Niculescu Hypothermia & Diphenhydramine(chloride) "The lethal dose of Diphenhydramine(chloride) is 50mg per kg body weight. also required: Zopiclon 20 tablets Bromazepam or Triazolam 30-50...

sanctioned-suicide.net

No, hypothermia is not a good method. It has serious physiological and pharmacological issues that make it unpredictable, painful, and highly prone to failure. The human body does not cool down in a linear and controlled manner as described in the guide but reacts with a series of biological responses that complicate the expected outcome. The first stage of hypothermia (between 35°C and 32°C) is characterized by intense shivering, vasoconstriction, and hyperactivation of the sympathetic nervous system, leading to tachycardia and hyperventilation, making the experience extremely unpleasant. The second stage (between 32°C and 28°C) results in disorientation, hallucinations, and muscle rigidity, while the advanced stage (below 28°C) can trigger fatal arrhythmias, including ventricular fibrillation, causing a sudden and chaotic death rather than a 'peaceful passing.'
The guide contains numerous scientific and technical errors. First, it suggests using diphenhydramine in combination with other sedatives and alcohol to facilitate the process but fails to account for the fact that drug metabolism is altered by hypothermia. As body temperature drops, liver and kidney function slow down, which can lead to erratic drug absorption and unpredictable effects. Diphenhydramine is not an anesthetic but an antihistamine with anticholinergic effects that can cause delirium, paradoxical agitation, and convulsions before loss of consciousness. Additionally, alcohol use can increase the risk of vomiting and pulmonary aspiration, making death more likely due to suffocation rather than hypothermia.
The bathtub method described is particularly problematic. Cooling in water occurs much faster than in air due to water's higher thermal conductivity, but the body's initial response to cold water is a shock reflex that triggers immediate hyperventilation and can lead to sudden cardiac arrest before the drugs take effect. If the water is cooled gradually, the risk is that the person remains conscious and in prolonged distress before unconsciousness occurs. The guide completely ignores these factors and treats hypothermia as a controllable process when, in reality, it varies significantly from person to person.
Another major error is the suggestion to "test" the drugs in advance to check for tolerance. This approach is medically unsound because drug tolerance varies based on physiological conditions, and interactions with hypothermia are unpredictable. Moreover, the amount of pills the body can absorb in a short period is inconsistent—attempting to ingest hundreds of tablets within minutes increases the risk of vomiting, which could compromise the entire process. The idea of numbering and organizing bottles and pill containers for an orderly administration also ignores the fact that, under the effects of an overdose, mental clarity will be severely impaired, making it impossible to follow such a rigid protocol.
Finally, the guide references a personal experience of surviving hypothermia, mistakenly suggesting that the method is effective. However, cases of hypothermia are highly variable—many people rescued in extreme hypothermia survive without permanent damage, while others suffer severe brain injuries even without dying. There is no guarantee that the process will work as described, and the likelihood of ending up in a coma or with irreversible neurological damage is much higher than the guide implies.
In summary, hypothermia is not only a slow and painful method but also highly unreliable, with a high probability of waking up in extreme distress. The guide does nothing more than create an illusion of control over a process that is, in reality, chaotic and unpredictable.

 

[Kali_Yuga13]

There's a common misconception that hypothermia equates with frostbite and needing to sever limbs. A person can die from hypothermia without subzero temperatures as long as the body core temp drops low enough while at the same time the blood in the extremities doesn't freeze. IDK about the jacket, hypothermia happens faster in water as it pulls away the body's heat.

Accidental Hypothermia: 2021 Update - PMC

Accidental hypothermia is an unintentional drop of core temperature below 35 °C. Annually, thousands die of primary hypothermia and an unknown number die of secondary hypothermia worldwide. Hypothermia can be expected in emergency patients in the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Eudaimonic]

Problem with hypothermia in general is that there a lot of factors that can affect survival

 

[slightoverlooked]

i thought about getting blackout drunk and laying down on the snow but im scared i wont die and just lose a limb from the cold ://

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

No, hypothermia is not a good method. It has serious physiological and pharmacological issues that make it unpredictable, painful, and highly prone to failure. The human body does not cool down in a linear and controlled manner as described in the guide but reacts with a series of biological responses that complicate the expected outcome. The first stage of hypothermia (between 35°C and 32°C) is characterized by intense shivering, vasoconstriction, and hyperactivation of the sympathetic nervous system, leading to tachycardia and hyperventilation, making the experience extremely unpleasant. The second stage (between 32°C and 28°C) results in disorientation, hallucinations, and muscle rigidity, while the advanced stage (below 28°C) can trigger fatal arrhythmias, including ventricular fibrillation, causing a sudden and chaotic death rather than a 'peaceful passing.'
The guide contains numerous scientific and technical errors. First, it suggests using diphenhydramine in combination with other sedatives and alcohol to facilitate the process but fails to account for the fact that drug metabolism is altered by hypothermia. As body temperature drops, liver and kidney function slow down, which can lead to erratic drug absorption and unpredictable effects. Diphenhydramine is not an anesthetic but an antihistamine with anticholinergic effects that can cause delirium, paradoxical agitation, and convulsions before loss of consciousness. Additionally, alcohol use can increase the risk of vomiting and pulmonary aspiration, making death more likely due to suffocation rather than hypothermia.
The bathtub method described is particularly problematic. Cooling in water occurs much faster than in air due to water's higher thermal conductivity, but the body's initial response to cold water is a shock reflex that triggers immediate hyperventilation and can lead to sudden cardiac arrest before the drugs take effect. If the water is cooled gradually, the risk is that the person remains conscious and in prolonged distress before unconsciousness occurs. The guide completely ignores these factors and treats hypothermia as a controllable process when, in reality, it varies significantly from person to person.
Another major error is the suggestion to "test" the drugs in advance to check for tolerance. This approach is medically unsound because drug tolerance varies based on physiological conditions, and interactions with hypothermia are unpredictable. Moreover, the amount of pills the body can absorb in a short period is inconsistent—attempting to ingest hundreds of tablets within minutes increases the risk of vomiting, which could compromise the entire process. The idea of numbering and organizing bottles and pill containers for an orderly administration also ignores the fact that, under the effects of an overdose, mental clarity will be severely impaired, making it impossible to follow such a rigid protocol.
Finally, the guide references a personal experience of surviving hypothermia, mistakenly suggesting that the method is effective. However, cases of hypothermia are highly variable—many people rescued in extreme hypothermia survive without permanent damage, while others suffer severe brain injuries even without dying. There is no guarantee that the process will work as described, and the likelihood of ending up in a coma or with irreversible neurological damage is much higher than the guide implies.
In summary, hypothermia is not only a slow and painful method but also highly unreliable, with a high probability of waking up in extreme distress. The guide does nothing more than create an illusion of control over a process that is, in reality, chaotic and unpredictable.

Thank you for this. When something seems direct and easy, it's not yet again:(

 

[L'absent]

At -20°C, the body begins to lose heat rapidly, but this is not immediate freezing. Hypothermia begins with a phase characterized by violent shivering, vasoconstriction, and acute pain in the extremities. Fingers and toes start to go numb, but the pain remains intense. Localized freezing can occur after prolonged exposure, while the core body temperature drops more slowly. Consciousness can be maintained for hours before deep hypothermia develops, making the process long and painful.
At -30°C, cooling accelerates. The inhaled air starts to irritate the respiratory tract, and heat loss becomes more pronounced. The extremities freeze more quickly, with intense pain that later turns into numbness. Blood flow is diverted to vital organs, causing a sensation of heaviness and reduced mobility. The brain, progressively deprived of oxygen and blood, begins to suffer, leading to disorientation and confusion. Consciousness may be lost within 30-60 minutes, but the process remains painful until complete sensory loss.
At -40°C, exposed skin freezes within minutes. The skin may turn white and become numb almost immediately. Core body temperature drops much faster, and unconsciousness can occur within 15-30 minutes. Wind drastically amplifies cooling, while breathing becomes difficult due to irritation of the respiratory tract. Although pain diminishes more quickly compared to milder temperatures, suffering is still present in the initial phases.
At -50°C, freezing of exposed parts becomes almost instantaneous. Skin crystallizes within seconds, and inhaling air this cold can begin to freeze moisture in the respiratory tract, leading to breathing difficulties and potential unconsciousness within 10-15 minutes. Blood concentrates more on vital organs, and the extremities become completely numb. However, suffering is not yet entirely eliminated, as the brain may continue processing pain for a few minutes before shutting down.
At -60°C, the body undergoes accelerated circulatory collapse. Freezing is nearly immediate upon exposure to air, and breathing becomes extremely dangerous as ice can form inside the trachea. Neurological functions begin shutting down more rapidly, reducing pain perception. Unconsciousness can occur in less than 10 minutes, especially if full-body exposure and wind increase heat dissipation.
At -70°C, tissue freezing is instantaneous. The skin becomes as fragile as glass, and inhaling air this cold can cause almost immediate respiratory blockage. This quickly leads to cerebral hypoxia and unconsciousness within 5-10 minutes. Circulation collapses rapidly, and blood begins forming microcrystals in the capillaries. At these temperatures, pain is almost immediately interrupted due to nerve damage and a drastic reduction in blood flow to the brain.
Below -70°C, death becomes almost completely painless because the body undergoes instantaneous freezing of surface tissues and extremely rapid loss of consciousness. The key factor is not just the temperature but also how quickly the central nervous system ceases to function. At these temperatures, extreme cold suppresses pain because nerves freeze before they can send signals to the brain, and loss of consciousness due to thermal shock and circulatory collapse occurs before suffering can be fully processed. Inhaling air below -70°C can cause almost immediate respiratory arrest, further accelerating unconsciousness.
In conclusion, while at higher temperatures cold leads to a prolonged phase of pain and progressive hypothermia, at -70°C or lower, freezing happens so quickly that the brain stops functioning before pain can be fully processed, making the process significantly faster and less traumatic than slow hypothermia above zero.

Thank you for this. When something seems direct and easy, it's not yet again:(

Nothing is easy; our body seems designed to torment us throughout our entire existence.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

@L'absent thank you for the very detailed information about hypothermia.