This forum's members act in a odd way, you've seen it didn't you? When it comes to topics regarding suicide, members are not allowed to influence another individual's decision towards taking their life, nor giving advice in how to do it. Members are being rather amoral when it comes to suicide discussion, such as giving information/advice on the dosage of SN (Sodium Nitrate) and cherry-picking which methods of CTB are ideal. The forum's rules state you cannot influence another individual's choice to CTB, but here you are giving detail to various methods. What's the objective from vent posting? Trying to gain sympathy, knowing no one is actually willing to help you, but tell you comforting lies and pretending to care about you. Who here actually has a connection with another member on this forum, and do you do anything meaningful with them? I'm suspicious of some members deceiving/manipulating others to gain sympathy, or make them rely on their warmth/attention then withdraw it to create emotional dependency. I don't feel genuine warmth or care from interacting with other members on this forum, it all seems too repetitive.
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I think it's just a thing typical for internet as a whole. The feeling of "fakeness" you get, I mean. Some places have more or less of it. Depends on your way of seeing the platform.
It's true about the rules though, it really can be seen as hypocrisy. But it's really hard to define how you can influence someone and where to draw the line, even a Wikipedia article can influence one if you squint your eyes the right amount
Not true. While you are indeed barred from influencing one's decision (to a degree, see below), you are allowed to discuss mechanics, pros and cons of every method. Only restriction is that you cannot provide links to or mentions of specific source and that is to protect those sources and to make sure that you "do your homework" if you really intend to kill yourself.
No connection here. Convincing someone should they die by their hand or not is one thing. Discussing available methods when the decision was already made is another.
If you really want to dig into anything fitting the definition of hypocrisy then Recovery section might your target. That's the only place you can "legally" (in forum terms) try to influence someone by providing positive feedback or words of encouragement.
Some people need it. And this forum provides place to do so without censorship.
First, if you don't "feel" doesn't mean others couldn't form any connection here and has nothing to do with alleged hypocrisy here. Second - it seems that you've mistaken SaSu for social platform. I mean, if you really want to, it is possible to form some kind of friendship here (hence "Partners" thread) but it's not primary function of this place.Well, let's see, 1st and foremost, NO ONE should EVER influence ANYONE on ANYTHING much less ctb.
This site is about caring towards everyone, as we are ALL in this together period.
Will say this part, at 70 and having had people all my life try and pull me this way or that way, it is to each and every soul to decide for themselves and NOT ask someone else how to kill themselves, like really?
At 70, I have seen so much, good AND not so good, as far as human nature and also outcomes of situations.
It is easy to give influence and walk away but always remember the old backpack tale. A person WILL carry it in one's backpack for life, and me, NOPE NEVER. I have had folks on here ask me certain things, sorry but nope, I do NOT want that on my conscious ever, thank you!
I have had 2 attempts, 72 hour holds, hospitalizations, and more. Saw people get killed right in front of me, will never get these images out of my mind EVER, YIKES!
I truly care about everyone here, no matter what anyone thinks of me, at my age do not care, as I want the best for everyone, however, the best does NOT include having blood on my hands, hell NO!
I am and always be 100% pro-choice on everything in life, ctb, abortion, you name it, NOT pro-ctb NOR pro-life. BUT to help someone commit the ultimate, NEVER!
Folks that post on here, in my almost 6 years that I have been here, are trying to navigate.
I will say this, and PLEASE NO CRAP, being straight up, and trying to help, but some folks who have had a boy or girlfriend dump them, not so good grades, crappy parents, mine WERE the ultimate WORST, kicked me out the day after I turned 18 with a bag of my clothes and NO food, NO money, NO shelter, NO job, NOTHING so yep I have an idea of crappy parents and the like, BUT to ctb over such issues? That is a true stretch and then add on someone helping add fuel to the fire, please!
Let folks vent all they want and ask for a hug, love it and will help any time that I can.
I just had a member here ctb, and it still HURTS like HELL so make a connection, yes, I have, and more than one that is for sure.
Emotional dependency? That is called HUMAN, as humans ARE a social animal and I for one love AND need to know that I am cared about and that is one of the finest things about this site, caring and loving EVERYONE.
Hugs to everyone and let's be kind, caring and love one another and let each soul find and choose their own path in this life.
Walter
The internet is a social platform, SaSu is simply a forum that is placed into that category. Are you saying if an individual's decision is already made to CTB, that's where you can engage with giving them information on methods and let them cherry-pick them? Individuals can ventpost all they want, it's how other members interact which is affecting the most. Your last point of me not "feeling" is a idealistic suggestion that others won't feel the same way I do, whether a majority or the minority.In before the thread gets locked!
OP you are far from the first here to make these arguments. This is the internet, people are gonna people, and people's motivations and actions can be up to different interpretation by everyone. If you see something you do not like, ignore it. If you see something you think is breaking the rules of this form, report it. Other than that, go live your life and put your energy elsewhere.
If you stretch the definition like that then whole life is a social platform. And still no hypocrisy there only because you are unable to socialize with others.
I'm saying that there's difference between saying KYS (or otherwise) to someone and discussing how to connect SCUBA to N2 tank. And nothing wrong with cherry-picking the methods. It's one's choice after all.
And what's exactly wrong with those interactions?
It's neither idealistic nor suggestion. It's an observation.
First of all, please avoid giving fake information. SN is *NOT* nitrAte. It's nitrite.If you feel weird vibes from individuals here- you can put them on ignore. If it's the whole forum you get weird vibes from then- maybe it's not a good fit.
But yes- I have formed what I would describe as meaningful connections with a handful of people here in PM's. It may only be one or two people we really click with here- like in real life. I think we need to have enough in common/ to relate to each other with. Plus- a genuine concern for each other. But yes- there absolutely are members here who care about one another.
There are also likely some dodgy characters too though- so- I think we all need to exercise caution. I personally think it's unwise to stray off platform and to reveal identities here. But even with those limitations, you can still get to know a lot about a person.
