Discussion How would you describe yourself politically?

[astr4]

love myself some daddy marx

 

[sserafim]

You sound like you would enjoy Ayn Rand

Someone said that my birth chart was like Ayn Rand's

Spoiler

Being rice she comes from a collectivist shame culture. Ayn rand(similar chart, also from a shame culture ) said forced morality leads people to become more amoral in the long run, because all they do is hide from the collective

This is why rice parents beat their kids and every other Muslim guy is a closet homo

Her chart shows a breakdown in morality and self preservation. Concern for ruthless status climbing and need for lordship over small suburban collective.

Someone like Kelly balthazar, lost all chauvinism and did hardcore porn for little money.

ER lost all morality and killed some people as well.

Most asian/ethnic girls will lose all chauvinism and end up havjng their white boyfriend call them slurs. Shame and chauvinism will get you nowhere in America

Look at ayn rands love life and you'll get an idea. She was a childless locked down a good looking guy and cheated on him with a bunch of others lol

Having kids will change alot but the west has no concern for morality or shame atm. Could end up a pornstar or something

Depends on degree of individualism, IQ and rationality

It's not a good portrait but I think it's reasonable. Very similar to allt kf psl people where they care about appearance alot

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Someone said that my birth chart was like Ayn Rand's

Spoiler

Being rice she comes from a collectivist shame culture. Ayn rand(similar chart, also from a shame culture ) said forced morality leads people to become more amoral in the long run, because all they do is hide from the collective

This is why rice parents beat their kids and every other Muslim guy is a closet homo

Her chart shows a breakdown in morality and self preservation. Concern for ruthless status climbing and need for lordship over small suburban collective.

Someone like Kelly balthazar, lost all chauvinism and did hardcore porn for little money.

ER lost all morality and killed some people as well.

Most asian/ethnic girls will lose all chauvinism and end up havjng their white boyfriend call them slurs. Shame and chauvinism will get you nowhere in America

Look at ayn rands love life and you'll get an idea. She was a childless locked down a good looking guy and cheated on him with a bunch of others lol

Having kids will change alot but the west has no concern for morality or shame atm. Could end up a pornstar or something

Depends on degree of individualism, IQ and rationality

It's not a good portrait but I think it's reasonable. Very similar to allt kf psl people where they care about appearance alot

Wtf did I just read?

 

[sserafim]

Wtf did I just read?

This is hers. Notice how it's spaced out with signs all over

That's most people. Most normies and regular people will be spread out between romance, career, health and so on


Based on the houses. The things that matter most are:

Health, relationships, money, romance, community on a small scale like neighborhood

Leo=ego
Libra=perfectionism
Aquarius= abstract/intellectual/revolution

These seem to be most important

Based on the signs: love beauty and art, action/aggression, vitality

Basically it seems like someone happiest as a soccer mom in the suburbs

Small communities with wealth where keeping up pristine appearances. Taking 5 kids to the game in a clean shiny SUV

But with a dead bedroom. The romance and sex parts are empty lol

But children, family, community and also "endings", the future

So raising kids who have grandkids and a big home etc the family and community life

Basically someone who wants to be on the right side. Family, kids, happy ending with signs of wealth and a clean pristine appearance

Seemingly balance is imprtsnt so maybe they won't all be scientist and work/leisure balance is imprtant and also a point of healing sign. Maybe this is somehow healing for something

Do you know what ideal career choice would be, or just stay at home mom?
Stay at home mom might not have enough action or revolution

Something that funds rhe family life without intruding too much and has status

Teacher seems apt but pay varies. I can think of something like photography for the art, or fashion design. Art and beauty is there

 

[EvisceratedJester]

View attachment 146758
This is hers. Notice how it's spaced out with signs all over

That's most people. Most normies and regular people will be spread out between romance, career, health and so on


Based on the houses. The things that matter most are:

Health, relationships, money, romance, community on a small scale like neighborhood

Leo=ego
Libra=perfectionism
Aquarius= abstract/intellectual/revolution

These seem to be most important

Based on the signs: love beauty and art, action/aggression, vitality

Basically it seems like someone happiest as a soccer mom in the suburbs

Small communities with wealth where keeping up pristine appearances. Taking 5 kids to the game in a clean shiny SUV

But with a dead bedroom. The romance and sex parts are empty lol

But children, family, community and also "endings", the future

So raising kids who have grandkids and a big home etc the family and community life






Basically someone who wants to be on the right side. Family, kids, happy ending with signs of wealth and a clean pristine appearance

Seemingly balance is imprtsnt so maybe they won't all be scientist and work/leisure balance is imprtant and also a point of healing sign. Maybe this is somehow healing for something

Yeah, astrology is bullshit and doesn't mean anything and "normies" don't exist. That term is mainly used by people who have a superiority complex...

 

[Downdraft]

Totally apolitical. Politics is one of the worst diseases on the planet. It's a business for profit unto itself, and has nothing to do with the welfare and well-being of the planet and her complement. It's a very dangerous circus.

Haha I actually don't like her… But I do like Anton LeVey. But I realized LeVey basically took Ayn Rand and bastardized her work and she basically took Nietzsche work and bastardized it so it's basically a third generation bastardization.
I know this is not the forum to say I don't like her.


As for my politicial views: I view Democrat and Replublican Fast Food or Taco Bell. A soft or crunchy shell taco. Same fillings, same contents, different wrapper. At the end of the day, it's money.

SS will hate me but I'm not a democrat or republican. I don't take sides in that dog fight. I'm a laissez-faire capitalist.

I don't really identify myself with either political party. And I would not register as either of them. I would vote for certain people from the parties. I think they're both pretty much equally failing right now. I vote on local issues, I think thats important.

I would say I am a political moderate. I am an independent. Albeit, my free-market views initially lead me to identify more with the Republican Party. (Though I'm probably much more to the left generally). I used to think Republicans were the lesser of two evils to some extent. Of course they still push their own personal mundane bullshit agendas but they generally, generally are less shitty on gun control issues but sometimes they're worse than democrats, they're both awful, you shouldn't vote for either one.
Third parties may have been well-intentioned in the first place but at this point they've all been corrupted from the outside.

I do feel that some form of government is needed. And I have no problem with paying some taxes to find some universal needs. I like maintaining roads, providing basic needs like some form of healthcare, general law enforcement protection from theft and violence things of that nature. But there is a limit. I don't think that laws should govern anything that doesn't hurt anyone else. Politics however it's present form is bullshit.

In such a radicalized society, where everything has to be about your side, this is honestly refreshing. Thank you both, I really needed this.

Imagine being so frail someone needs to hate on you. Anyone who wants to dog on you can, but they'll fail explaining why they consistently keep having the same problems if their actions are so pure. Enjoy thinking this time it'll be different. ;)

"But the other side is the guilty one, we are pure!" Bitch, then you don't believe in democracy, you just want the country shaped around you, lol. People don't critisize Trump because he wants to abolish it, but becuase his govt doesn't interest them, lol.

I wonder how many people of that side would complain if theirs was the one doing it, lol.

It's one of the easiest systems to exploit because it depends in people not being over-emotional, which is not. People aren't suited to control such matter. No system is free of such flaws. Politics, on the other hand, are excellent in spreading hate speech, harassment, narratives and dehumanization of some sort.

Politics, by definition, can't leave people in peace, because it's about who you want to systematically exclude. Mostly two-large echo-chambers or infighting, tribalism, and debate bros fomented by the current culture of trying to start from a conclusion instead of trying to be right. It hasn't really solved problems we've been dealing with for centuries, but has been excellent ruining people's mental health, and doing everyone's life a bit worse than it already is. Literally a tool for bullying. People keeps thinking things will magically change with a sole party, and justifying said harassment.

This is inevitable to maintain any society, and the fact this happened since our earliest days is empirical evidence you aren't solving shit. Life feeds on life. Your liberal values feed on terrible conditions from less developed countries you don't bring to the equation. We are literally a very smart, yet primal animal. Fucking suck it up. Praise technological and medicine advances for your better lifestyle. If your system allows an alleged fascist regime to be electable, that system is ABSOLUTELY a problem, and you have a bigger problem than said regime. Targeting it's users not a solution.

It doesn't mean there aren't morals. It doesn't mean you can't change anything. It means to grow up, and if a system fails you, do something on your own, instead of the extreme victimism of expecting everything to change around you, to suit your particular desires.

 

[DarkRange55]

Philosophers would be too many to name but a few that come to mind

For sure Nietzsche (go ahead, shoot me)

Einstein is widely regarded as a physicist, but his work goes so deeply into the fundamental nature of reality that he can also be read as a metaphysical philosopher

I consider Darwin a philosopher.

Aristotle who was a pupil of Plato who first distinguished physics from metaphysics and made a number of inroads including the nature of logic and the empirical sciences.

Plotinus and Neoplatonists

Decarte who came up with his idea of cartesian mind body dualism and was the first and most successful mechanistic approach to physical reality with his coordinate systems and his analytic geometry

Leibniz had something called a monadology which basically says that reality consists of monads or coherent quanta that are a little bit similar DeCarte who had these mechanistic corpuscles which he considered reality to be composed. Monads are basically metaphysical in essence, he describes them as soul-like. He believed that universal truths are accessible to reason while using two main principles: contradiction (a proposition must either be true or false) and the principle of sufficient reason.


Many more

I can explain the Anton LeVey thing and its relation to Buddhism and stuff but idk who cares

Roses are red, lamps attract moths. Anton Levay is just Ayn Rand for goths.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I'm a far right shitlord, I was a witness in the gamergate trial back in the day and I once made a website that got put on a list of "suspected hate sites" by the SPLC and I did activism with Karen Straughan and Lauren Southern. I know for damn sure my views aren't popular around here. Oh, and I love Donald Trump.

Nice to meet you.

Yes and no. I would say that LeVeyan Satanism and Objectivism share a common emphasis on individualism and rejection of traditional altruistic morality, but they diverge significantly in their methods, ethical views, and philosophical foundations.

Also I did say initially that it was a series of bastardizations.
Buddha is at the end of LeVeyan Satanism when taken to its logical conclusion. But thats a talk for later.

When I was 13 and I was interested in satanism it was through a homeless guy with a book in his hand. The church of satan today, I don't keep up with it anymore but its become like this occult kind of like black magic oriented LGBT oriented group I don't know whats going on with it. The Satanic Temple really kind of fucked all that up. But the Church of Satan didn't jump on the internet and get a presence until way too late because they were busy trying to thumb wrestle and see whoever's gonna get Anton LeVey's estate and who's gonna be the high priest and they then just kind of fucked up off and didn't think it was gonna go anywhere. They were trying to catch up but they kind of just lost the ball. Its all dead. It was kind of on its way out because when LeVey died that was it.

I posted a lengthy comment about Trump. Not saying he is the worst or best. Just that he is controversial.

 

[Nickreading]

Philosophers would be too many to name but a few that come to mind

For sure Nietzsche (go ahead, shoot me)

Einstein is widely regarded as a physicist, but his work goes so deeply into the fundamental nature of reality that he can also be read as a metaphysical philosopher

I consider Darwin a philosopher.

Aristotle who was a pupil of Plato who first distinguished physics from metaphysics and made a number of inroads including the nature of logic and the empirical sciences.

Plotinus and Neoplatonists

Decarte who came up with his idea of cartesian mind body dualism and was the first and most successful mechanistic approach to physical reality with his coordinate systems and his analytic geometry

Leibniz had something called a monadology which basically says that reality consists of monads or coherent quanta that are a little bit similar DeCarte who had these mechanistic corpuscles which he considered reality to be composed. Monads are basically metaphysical in essence, he describes them as soul-like. He believed that universal truths are accessible to reason while using two main principles: contradiction (a proposition must either be true or false) and the principle of sufficient reason.


Many more

I can explain the Anton LeVey thing and its relation to Buddhism and stuff but idk who cares

Yes and no. I would say that LeVeyan Satanism and Objectivism share a common emphasis on individualism and rejection of traditional altruistic morality, but they diverge significantly in their methods, ethical views, and philosophical foundations.

Also I did say initially that it was a series of bastardizations.
Buddha is at the end of LeVeyan Satanism when taken to its logical conclusion. But thats a talk for later.

When I was 13 and I was interested in satanism it was through a homeless guy with a book in his hand. The church of satan today, I don't keep up with it anymore but its become like this occult kind of like black magic oriented LGBT oriented group I don't know whats going on with it. The Satanic Temple really kind of fucked all that up. But the Church of Satan didn't jump on the internet and get a presence until way too late because they were busy trying to thumb wrestle and see whoever's gonna get Anton LeVey's estate and who's gonna be the high priest and they then just kind of fucked up off and didn't think it was gonna go anywhere. They were trying to catch up but they kind of just lost the ball. Its all dead. It was kind of on its way out because when LeVey died that was it.

I posted a lengthy comment about Trump. Not saying he is the worst or best. Just that he is controversial.

I just like trump because he's a bull in a China shop. That's all.

 

[JealousOfTheElderly]

Roses are red, lamps attract moths. Anton Levay is just Ayn Rand for goths.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I'm a far right shitlord, I was a witness in the gamergate trial back in the day and I once made a website that got put on a list of "suspected hate sites" by the SPLC and I did activism with Karen Straughan and Lauren Southern. I know for damn sure my views aren't popular around here. Oh, and I love Donald Trump.

Nice to meet you.

the SPLC is biased garbage. Anything right of Marxism gets labeled as hate speech by them.
Trump is the (far) lesser evil than Kamala/Biden/Newsome/the left but either way, we are headed in the wrong direction by sucking Israel 's pipi.

Anarcho capitalist and Javier Milei, president of Argentina.

VIVA LA LIBERTAD, CARAJO!

You'd love Doug Casey, the anarcho-capitalist libertarian contrarian. Look him up on YouTube or his website international man.
I like you, @Nickreading

Ph.

When I was 13 and I was interested in satanism it was through a homeless guy with a book in his hand. The church of satan today, I don't keep up with it anymore but its become like this occult kind of like black magic oriented LGBT oriented group I don't know whats going on with it. The Satanic Temple really kind of fucked all that up. But the Church of Satan didn't jump on the internet and get a presence until way too late because they were busy trying to thumb wrestle and see whoever's gonna get Anton LeVey's estate and who's gonna be the high priest and they then just kind of fucked up off and didn't think it was gonna go anywhere. They were trying to catch up but they kind of just lost the ball. Its all dead. It was kind of on its way out because when LeVey died that was it.

I posted a lengthy comment about Trump. Not saying he is the worst or best. Just that he is controversial.

The church of Satan (originally) was very libertarian. I agreed with a lot of their ideas about live and let live.
Trump certainly is controversial. A few weeks ago, I posted elsewhere that I'd rather vote for him over Biden but my comment got deleted. He's the lesser of the two evils, IMO.

 

[UnluckyBastard]

I hate everyone and everything. I am jaded beyond measure. Every time I pass political signs or see a political add, I feel sick to my stomach. Fuck everything.

 

[Imagined_Euphoria]

Chaos.

 

[banger12]

I'm late to this thread but I was a Political Science major in college and I love politics so I wanted to contribute anyway.

I don't like "ideology" and there isn't one perspective or "side" that I agree with 100% or label that fits me totally accurately.

That being said, I typically self-describe as a "conservative" or "paleoconservative". I think that conservative theory and philosophy is very interesting and compelling and valuable but as time has gone on the actual value and strength of conservatism has greatly diminished over time and it's no longer very interesting in modern times.

I like to think I can adapt any idea from any person or school of thought that has merit though and that I'm fairly open minded. And labels like "conservative/paleoconservative" aren't entirely accurate and have their drawbacks and baggage too.

Tbh I'm nervous about responding to this thread because im really not what I used to be and I feel incredibly insecure. After some head injuries and other health complications I'm not as smart as I used to be and I'm not really able to defend my position well anymore. But I saw this and wanted to share ig lol.

 

[newave3]

Far right.


There are 4 default answers for anything that goes wrong:

Systemic White Racism

Climate Change

Putin

Trump

 

[DarkRange55]

Anarcho capitalist and Javier Milei, president of Argentina.

VIVA LA LIBERTAD, CARAJO!

at a time I identified as an anarcho-capitalist. But I don't think he is a good example IMHO…

I'm late to this thread but I was a Political Science major in college and I love politics so I wanted to contribute anyway.

I don't like "ideology" and there isn't one perspective or "side" that I agree with 100% or label that fits me totally accurately.

That being said, I typically self-describe as a "conservative" or "paleoconservative". I think that conservative theory and philosophy is very interesting and compelling and valuable but as time has gone on the actual value and strength of conservatism has greatly diminished over time and it's no longer very interesting in modern times.

I like to think I can adapt any idea from any person or school of thought that has merit though and that I'm fairly open minded. And labels like "conservative/paleoconservative" aren't entirely accurate and have their drawbacks and baggage too.

Tbh I'm nervous about responding to this thread because im really not what I used to be and I feel incredibly insecure. After some head injuries and other health complications I'm not as smart as I used to be and I'm not really able to defend my position well anymore. But I saw this and wanted to share ig lol.

Thats a really intriguing post, what do you find interesting about conservatism?
Sorry to hear about your health complications and injury! Wish you the best of luck and hope you're well! Thanks for sharing!

 

[yellowjester]

For sure Nietzsche (go ahead, shoot me)

I would but all my arrows of longing are already spent on the Übermensch. (Only true Nietzschians will get this joke)

 

[LiuKang]

And which Politicians/Philosophers most closely allign to your views?

Rodger Marxist

Anarcho capitalist and Javier Milei, president of Argentina.

VIVA LA LIBERTAD, CARAJO!

Crapitialism is beyond corny .

 

[VeryShy]

In a same way as Julian Assange.

 

[JealousOfTheElderly]

I hate everyone and everything. I am jaded beyond measure. Every time I pass political signs or see a political add, I feel sick to my stomach. Fuck everything.

This is how I feel today. Seeing all this manufactured love for Kamala while she's literally done nothing for the last 4 years and people eating up all the news coverage about her "joyful" campaign put me in the mood you describe in your post. Fuck politics.