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I'm making this thread because the current thread that this forum links to regarding hanging, is pretty lacking of actual information. If it has any, it's buried beneath questions and confusion. There should be a thread here, where you read the main body post, and you are ready to go. I'm going to try and make that thousand page long thread into one post, you can read right now, and not have to sift through thousands of comments to find an answer.

Let's approach this the right way. Hanging is a very common method, yet it also seems to be the most debated when it comes to logistics...why? The variables.

Hanging method #1: partial suspension : http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/hanging/short-drop/simple-suspension

Hanging method #2: full suspension: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging

How to tie a proper noose:

Valuable information:
  1. In general, there are two ways of performing suicide by hanging: suspension hanging (the suspension of the body at the neck) and drop hanging (a calculated drop designed to break the neck). Manual strangulation and suffocation may also be considered together with hanging.[26]

2. To perform a suspension hanging, a rope or other ligature is tied into a noose which goes around the neck, a knot (often a running knot, which tightens easily) is formed, and the other end of the rope is tied to a ligature point; the body is then suspended, which tightens the ligature around the neck.

Regardless of the material used to form the noose, suspension hanging will kill the person in three ways: compression of the carotid arteries, the jugular veins, or the airway.[9][27]About 11 lb (5 kg) of pressure is required to compress the carotid artery; 4.4 lb (2 kg) for the jugular veins;[9] and at least 15 kg (33 lb) for the airway.[15] The amount of time it takes to lose consciousness and die is difficult to predict accurately and depends on several factors. Some believe unconsciousness occurs in five seconds, though Alan Gunn writes that it generally takes longer. It took a man who filmed his hanging 13 seconds to become unconscious, 1 minute and 38 seconds to lose muscle tone, and 4 minutes and 10 seconds for muscle movement to cease.[28][29] Full suspension is not required; most hanging suicides are done by partial suspension, according to Wyatt et al.[30] Geo Stone, author of Suicide and Attempted Suicide: Methods and Consequences, suggests that death by obstruction of the airway is more painful than by the other ways.[26]

The aim of drop hanging, which is also frequently used in executions, is to break the neck. Participants fall vertically with a rope attached to their neck, which when taut applies a force sufficient to break the spinal cord, causing death.[26][31] The length of the drop, usually between 1.56 and 2.75 metres long, is calculated such that it is long enough to allow a less painful death, but short enough to avoid a decapitation.[32] This form of suicide is much rarer than suspension hanging[15] and is likely to be less painful.[33]

When I comes down to it, there are many ways you can choke yourself to death. If you cannot find peace in any of the information listed above, or any choking method already detailed here (like the night night method) then this method is simply not for you. It should be known already this is not a quick and painless death. You will experience agony, if only for a few seconds. If you think you can handle under 1 min of pain, hanging might be the best option for you. It's tried and tested true. It's all about how bad you want it.

There is a video I linked on how to tie a noose. If you jump off a solid object with that around your neck, you will be out in under 1 min and die if undisturbed. All these questions about rope quality and structural integrity of where you choose to tie to...don't kid yourself...it's up to you to find that out. If you are so desperate to find out the pounds per square inch a hotel closet bar can hold....I doubt your seriousness. Don't get me wrong, I've failed attempts too...but I can also be real about our situation...killing yourself is not hard...there are 1000000 ways to die...at the end of the day, it's how about how bad you want it.

Robin Williams probably didn't spend months of research on belt type statistics. He wanted to die, wrapped a belt around his neck, and did it. If you are not ready to face some uncomfortableness before your death, this method is not for you, plain and simple.

I don't want a painful death. I think hanging is the fools way out if I'm honest, because there are so many other less painful methods...but in the same breath, once you commit, that's it. There is no failing when you have a noose around your neck with a solid object.

Don't ask people about PSI. Don't ask people what rope to buy. Don't ask people what tree to tie too. These are all decisions you should be making yourself. The only thing you need to learn, is how to tie the rope, and what to tie it to. Once you know this, the ball is in YOUR court.

Edit: if you want this thread to gain traction, leave a comment and emoji. If you don't, this will get buried and the other thread will take back over, just saying.
 
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Great work. Someone needs to think about turning something like this into a wiki page and just have people link to it when a question comes up. I know nothing about this method but after reading this I know a hell of a lot more.
 
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Now I'm gonna feel like a fool for hanging myself.
 
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Great work. Someone needs to think about turning something like this into a wiki page and just have people link to it when a question comes up. I know nothing about this method but after reading this I know a hell of a lot more.

If we had something like this with a Q&A, especially for SN; it would save us so much effort right? I'm not sure why the wiki linked on the sticky lacks so much information at the moment.
 
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Great work. Someone needs to think about turning something like this into a wiki page and just have people link to it when a question comes up. I know nothing about this method but after reading this I know a hell of a lot more.

Word bud. I threw this together in like 15 mins. The current thread, I've read the entire thing...and if you do that...you will still be wondering "hmmm is this for me..." I think some blunt facts and wording is required to drive home the seriousness of this method.
If we had something like this with a Q&A, especially for SN; it would save us so much effort right? I'm not sure why the wiki linked on the sticky lacks so much information at the moment.

I agree. There is so much information spread out between different posts and comments. It's almost more difficult when you look into your method because there is so much conflicting information, or lack of it. I believe these resources should be blunt and to the fact. If it's agreed upon, even lock it. Don't let people who fail to follow the tested information to cause doubt in other people. There is lots of talks about how hard it is to hang yourself in the official thread. I'm sorry, but it's not hard. I'll be the first to admit I'm a pussy for not doing it already, but at least I'm realistic about the method. If you want to hang yourself, you shouldn't have to even research anything, you'll just do it. That's just how it is, and I'll admit I'm too much of a coward to follow my own advice...but it IS facts...
Now I'm gonna feel like a fool for hanging myself.

Don't, It's not the fools ways out like I said...it's not the easiest method is what I'm trying to say...honestly if you choose hanging, I'm going to think you're a badass. You could of had a easier way out, but you swallowed your pride and pulled the trigger on the method. I honestly have nothing bud respect for people who hung...that takes amazing courage...(it could of been easier on them) BUT GODDAMN WHAT A BADASS
 
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I'm making this thread because the current thread that this forum links to regarding hanging, is pretty lacking of actual information. If it has any, it's buried beneath questions and confusion. There should be a thread here, where you read the main body post, and you are ready to go. I'm going to try and make that thousand page long thread into one post, you can read right now, and not have to sift through thousands of comments to find an answer.

Let's approach this the right way. Hanging is a very common method, yet it also seems to be the most debated when it comes to logistics...why? The variables.

Hanging method #1: partial suspension : http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/hanging/short-drop/simple-suspension

Hanging method #2: full suspension: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging

How to tie a proper noose:

Valuable information:
  1. In general, there are two ways of performing suicide by hanging: suspension hanging (the suspension of the body at the neck) and drop hanging (a calculated drop designed to break the neck). Manual strangulation and suffocation may also be considered together with hanging.[26]

2. To perform a suspension hanging, a rope or other ligature is tied into a noose which goes around the neck, a knot (often a running knot, which tightens easily) is formed, and the other end of the rope is tied to a ligature point; the body is then suspended, which tightens the ligature around the neck.

Regardless of the material used to form the noose, suspension hanging will kill the person in three ways: compression of the carotid arteries, the jugular veins, or the airway.[9][27]About 11 lb (5 kg) of pressure is required to compress the carotid artery; 4.4 lb (2 kg) for the jugular veins;[9] and at least 15 kg (33 lb) for the airway.[15] The amount of time it takes to lose consciousness and die is difficult to predict accurately and depends on several factors. Some believe unconsciousness occurs in five seconds, though Alan Gunn writes that it generally takes longer. It took a man who filmed his hanging 13 seconds to become unconscious, 1 minute and 38 seconds to lose muscle tone, and 4 minutes and 10 seconds for muscle movement to cease.[28][29] Full suspension is not required; most hanging suicides are done by partial suspension, according to Wyatt et al.[30] Geo Stone, author of Suicide and Attempted Suicide: Methods and Consequences, suggests that death by obstruction of the airway is more painful than by the other ways.[26]

The aim of drop hanging, which is also frequently used in executions, is to break the neck. Participants fall vertically with a rope attached to their neck, which when taut applies a force sufficient to break the spinal cord, causing death.[26][31] The length of the drop, usually between 1.56 and 2.75 metres long, is calculated such that it is long enough to allow a less painful death, but short enough to avoid a decapitation.[32] This form of suicide is much rarer than suspension hanging[15] and is likely to be less painful.[33]

When I comes down to it, there are many ways you can choke yourself to death. If you cannot find peace in any of the information listed above, or any choking method already detailed here (like the night night method) then this method is simply not for you. It should be known already this is not a quick and painless death. You will experience agony, if only for a few seconds. If you think you can handle under 1 min of pain, hanging might be the best option for you. It's tried and tested true. It's all about how bad you want it.

There is a video I linked on how to tie a noose. If you jump off a solid object with that around your neck, you will be out in under 1 min and die if undisturbed. All these questions about rope quality and structural integrity of where you choose to tie to...don't kid yourself...it's up to you to find that out. If you are so desperate to find out the pounds per square inch a hotel closet bar can hold....I doubt your seriousness. Don't get me wrong, I've failed attempts too...but I can also be real about our situation...killing yourself is not hard...there are 1000000 ways to die...at the end of the day, it's how about how bad you want it.

Robin Williams probably didn't spend months of research on belt type statistics. He wanted to die, wrapped a belt around his neck, and did it. If you are not ready to face some uncomfortableness before your death, this method is not for you, plain and simple.

I don't want a painful death. I think hanging is the fools way out if I'm honest, because there are so many other less painful methods...but in the same breath, once you commit, that's it. There is no failing when you have a noose around your neck with a solid object.

Don't ask people about PSI. Don't ask people what rope to buy. Don't ask people what tree to tie too. These are all decisions you should be making yourself. The only thing you need to learn, is how to tie the rope, and what to tie it to. Once you know this, the ball is in YOUR court.

Very sensible. You can tell people aren't serious when they just pepper the thread with questions. Good point about Williams (though it sounds like he'd thought about it many times for years, given his other problems).
 
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I'm making this thread because the current thread that this forum links to regarding hanging, is pretty lacking of actual information. If it has any, it's buried beneath questions and confusion. There should be a thread here, where you read the main body post, and you are ready to go. I'm going to try and make that thousand page long thread into one post, you can read right now, and not have to sift through thousands of comments to find an answer.

Let's approach this the right way. Hanging is a very common method, yet it also seems to be the most debated when it comes to logistics...why? The variables.

Hanging method #1: partial suspension : http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/hanging/short-drop/simple-suspension

Hanging method #2: full suspension: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging

How to tie a proper noose:

Valuable information:
  1. In general, there are two ways of performing suicide by hanging: suspension hanging (the suspension of the body at the neck) and drop hanging (a calculated drop designed to break the neck). Manual strangulation and suffocation may also be considered together with hanging.[26]

2. To perform a suspension hanging, a rope or other ligature is tied into a noose which goes around the neck, a knot (often a running knot, which tightens easily) is formed, and the other end of the rope is tied to a ligature point; the body is then suspended, which tightens the ligature around the neck.

Regardless of the material used to form the noose, suspension hanging will kill the person in three ways: compression of the carotid arteries, the jugular veins, or the airway.[9][27]About 11 lb (5 kg) of pressure is required to compress the carotid artery; 4.4 lb (2 kg) for the jugular veins;[9] and at least 15 kg (33 lb) for the airway.[15] The amount of time it takes to lose consciousness and die is difficult to predict accurately and depends on several factors. Some believe unconsciousness occurs in five seconds, though Alan Gunn writes that it generally takes longer. It took a man who filmed his hanging 13 seconds to become unconscious, 1 minute and 38 seconds to lose muscle tone, and 4 minutes and 10 seconds for muscle movement to cease.[28][29] Full suspension is not required; most hanging suicides are done by partial suspension, according to Wyatt et al.[30] Geo Stone, author of Suicide and Attempted Suicide: Methods and Consequences, suggests that death by obstruction of the airway is more painful than by the other ways.[26]

The aim of drop hanging, which is also frequently used in executions, is to break the neck. Participants fall vertically with a rope attached to their neck, which when taut applies a force sufficient to break the spinal cord, causing death.[26][31] The length of the drop, usually between 1.56 and 2.75 metres long, is calculated such that it is long enough to allow a less painful death, but short enough to avoid a decapitation.[32] This form of suicide is much rarer than suspension hanging[15] and is likely to be less painful.[33]

When I comes down to it, there are many ways you can choke yourself to death. If you cannot find peace in any of the information listed above, or any choking method already detailed here (like the night night method) then this method is simply not for you. It should be known already this is not a quick and painless death. You will experience agony, if only for a few seconds. If you think you can handle under 1 min of pain, hanging might be the best option for you. It's tried and tested true. It's all about how bad you want it.

There is a video I linked on how to tie a noose. If you jump off a solid object with that around your neck, you will be out in under 1 min and die if undisturbed. All these questions about rope quality and structural integrity of where you choose to tie to...don't kid yourself...it's up to you to find that out. If you are so desperate to find out the pounds per square inch a hotel closet bar can hold....I doubt your seriousness. Don't get me wrong, I've failed attempts too...but I can also be real about our situation...killing yourself is not hard...there are 1000000 ways to die...at the end of the day, it's how about how bad you want it.

Robin Williams probably didn't spend months of research on belt type statistics. He wanted to die, wrapped a belt around his neck, and did it. If you are not ready to face some uncomfortableness before your death, this method is not for you, plain and simple.

I don't want a painful death. I think hanging is the fools way out if I'm honest, because there are so many other less painful methods...but in the same breath, once you commit, that's it. There is no failing when you have a noose around your neck with a solid object.

Don't ask people about PSI. Don't ask people what rope to buy. Don't ask people what tree to tie too. These are all decisions you should be making yourself. The only thing you need to learn, is how to tie the rope, and what to tie it to. Once you know this, the ball is in YOUR court.

Edit: if you want this thread to gain traction, leave a comment and emoji. If you don't, this will get buried and the other thread will take back over, just saying.

I've watched numerous hanging videos. Most of them were Indian. I highly doubt these people were researching on the internet how to hang themselves, they just did. I did notice they used these long scarves. But anyway thanks for this post. I did spend way too much time on the mega thread and didn't really get good info. You nailed it!
 
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Sorry if it's a dumb question, but how do you avoid decapitating yourself? Is that only a possibility with full drop suspension or partial? Or both? Would not want such a gruesome scene for loved ones if I decided to do it.
 
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Sorry if it's a dumb question, but how do you avoid decapitating yourself? Is that only a possibility with full drop suspension or partial? Or both? Would not want such a gruesome scene for loved ones if I decided to do it.
All you have to do it google it. But the short common sense answer is you are at risk of decap if the drop is too long during a full drop. Your neck can only take so much force before it pops. A long abrupt fall could have the force necessary to rip your head off. Like off a bridge etc. it is not going to happen in your room hanging from your door jam.
 
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Very informative, nice work <3
 
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a good and concise post my only feedback is -that i am not sure it was necessary to post a video for a knot type that is only really used/ needed for judical type long drop hangings, where as for short-drop and partial a very simple slip knot will suffice. So that knot vid might throw some people off and trigger fretful knot replies etc. that is all. all good otherwise. well edited info.
 
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This might've given me the push I needed, thank you so much. What's a minute of pain compared to a lifetime, right?
 
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Thanks for taking your time to make this, one of the better summaries regarding the suspension method
 
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The simple noose/ slip knot might be dangerous to use with very slippery ropes though, it might be a simple method, but you better get it right
 
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You say there are easierel, less painful ways to suicide...like what? It's near impossible to get N and other drugs are not reliable. You can shoot yourself, but the chance of failing is high if you aren't used to guns
 
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Thanks for putting this together. Hoping to try again soon.
 
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You say there are easierel, less painful ways to suicide...like what? It's near impossible to get N and other drugs are not reliable. You can shoot yourself, but the chance of failing is high if you aren't used to guns
i think most people on here as you can prob tell by now would say SN or possibly SA, or one of the gas type suicides- all listed in methods, nothing will ever really be totally easy as such or 100% painless- after all we are talking about trying to ctb here-its kind of the nature of the beast-guess its a matter of weighing up the pros and cons for each way
The simple noose/ slip knot might be dangerous to use with very slippery ropes though, it might be a simple method, but you better get it right
well yes, i would have thought any rope/ knot set up requires a quick test first to check it wont come loose-that only takes a moment though just using yr full body weight to pull/ push down on it to make sure it is secure-shouldnt be a problem.
 
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I don't want a painful death. I think hanging is the fools way out if I'm honest, because there are so many other less painful methods.
Hanging is not painful at all, if it's done partially. Even if doing full suspension, the pain won't last very long.

And how is hanging a fool's way out? Fairly easy, very cheap, very fast, easily available, quite painless and best of all, extremely reliable. A fool is a person who spends hundreds of dollars to buy Nembutal that turns out to be a scam.

And as for the people who tried partial and failed – I honestly don't know? I just leaned towards the rope and felt dizzy. Almost zero pain, only slight discomfort. Perhaps they overthink the method? Perhaps they don't put enough weight on the noose? I don't know. Could be anatomical differences, that's the only answer I can come up with.
 
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Hanging is not painful at all, if it's done partially. Even if doing full suspension, the pain won't last very long.

And how is hanging a fool's way out? Fairly easy, very cheap, very fast, easily available, quite painless and best of all, extremely reliable. A fool is a person who spends hundreds of dollars to buy Nembutal that turns out to be a scam.

And as for the people who tried partial and failed – I honestly don't know? I just leaned towards the rope and felt dizzy. Almost zero pain, only slight discomfort. Perhaps they overthink the method? Perhaps they don't put enough weight on the noose? I don't know. Could be anatomical differences, that's the only answer I can come up with.
I read somewhere, that in some reports of hangings that were done - eg criminal ones- that the women were shown to exhibit more signs of a struggle & for v slightly longer too-not sure why this would be-and it could have been pure coincedence- after all out of all the hngs that have happened a v.small number would have been filmed, watched or a report made about. dunno.
 
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i think most people on here as you can prob tell by now would say SN or possibly SA, or one of the gas type suicides- all listed in methods, nothing will ever really be totally easy as such or 100% painless- after all we are talking about trying to ctb here-its kind of the nature of the beast-guess its a matter of weighing up the pros and cons for each way

well yes, i would have thought any rope/ knot set up requires a quick test first to check it wont come loose-that only takes a moment though just using yr full body weight to pull/ push down on it to make sure it is secure-shouldnt be a problem.
Not what I meant, if your full weight is in it the slip knot will tighten real tight and you're good, it won't come loose, if you're body is shaking like crazy however, there might be created some space and the slip knot can loosen.
However: found the solution: couple of double overhand knots at the loose end of the rope so it can't pass through the slip knot and you're good to go.

Also @Im2high4this thank you for making this thread. Cold harsh truth, all the info you need and straight to the point. Personally hanging has always been my method of choice regardless of pain. Never really was a suicidal person, not CTB'ing because of emotional reasons or mental illness but physical illness (brain damage) which made my life useless. Always thought to myself: if you're that worried about experiencing 1 min of pain, is your life even bad enough to CTB in the first place? However, def. pro-choice and not judging anyone, i get some people want more humane ways. Good luck to all!
 
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Not what I meant, if your full weight is in it the slip knot will tighten real tight and you're good, it won't come loose, if you're body is shaking like crazy however, there might be created some space and the slip knot can loosen.
However: found the solution: couple of double overhand knots at the loose end of the rope so it can't pass through the slip knot and you're good to go.

Also @Im2high4this thank you for making this thread. Cold harsh truth, all the info you need and straight to the point. Personally hanging has always been my method of choice regardless of pain. Never really was a suicidal person, not CTB'ing because of emotional reasons or mental illness but physical illness (brain damage) which made my life useless. Always thought to myself: if you're that worried about experiencing 1 min of pain, is your life even bad enough to CTB in the first place? However, def. pro-choice and not judging anyone, i get some people want more humane ways. Good luck to all!
Ahh I get you- my bad! I don't know what a double over hand knot is - but will look it up- I know it's only a minute of pain & I feel a lot of mental pain every second of everyday - hopefully (well I kind of have to tbh) at some point soon I will be able overcome the inbuilt SI that stops me each time.
 
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Ahh I get you- my bad! I don't know what a double over hand knot is - but will look it up- I know it's only a minute of pain & I feel a lot of mental pain every second of everyday - hopefully (well I kind of have to tbh) at some point soon I will be able overcome the inbuilt SI that stops me each time.
had the same problem, that's why I'm going fulL I was also kind of guilty of overthinking my decision: bought multiple ropes, didn't know what place to do it from etc. Have once thicker and less slippery rope but has a capacity of 120 kg ( i weigh 85 kg) and one thinner (which needed the double overhand as a stopper knot) which has a strength of 1000 kg. Still worried that that suspension point is not strong enough or the rope will still slip through, but it's always a risk and i'll have to make a decision...
 
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had the same problem, that's why I'm going fulL I was also kind of guilty of overthinking my decision: bought multiple ropes, didn't know what place to do it from etc. Have once thicker and less slippery rope but has a capacity of 120 kg ( i weigh 85 kg) and one thinner (which needed the double overhand as a stopper knot) which has a strength of 1000 kg. Still worried that that suspension point is not strong enough or the rope will still slip through, but it's always a risk and i'll have to make a decision...
I don't even have a rope - just got scarves / dressing gown cord etc- I'm not that heavy though so figure it will work - I placed an up turned bucket in the location I found- and every day I walk and check it is still there -like a massive weirdo! Need to ktb not ctb...
 
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I think hanging is the fools way out if I'm honest, because there are so many other less painful methods...but in the same breath, once you commit, that's it. There is no failing when you have a noose around your neck with a solid object.

Guns, poison, lethal substances, high buildings (yes, even high buildings) aren't readily available to everyone. Not to me, certainly. But what anyone can more or less get a hold of is a scarf and an iron beam/railing.
 
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I'm a sorry if I came off abrasive in this post. I was pretty drunk when I made it. I don't regret the post, but I'm reading my own words right now and I kind of feel like an asshole for some parts. I struggle to consider every point of view when I'm drunk and I tend to become extremely opinionated. My apologies if I offended you.
 
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I'm a sorry if I came off abrasive in this post. I was pretty drunk when I made it. I don't regret the post, but I'm reading my own words right now and I kind of feel like an asshole for some parts. I struggle to consider every point of view when I'm drunk and I tend to become extremely opinionated. My apologies if I offended you.
I didn't find it abrasive. I mean yes there are clearly tons of people here just fantasizing, but so what. There are lots here too who are serious and your post speaks to them.
 
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I'm making this thread because the current thread that this forum links to regarding hanging, is pretty lacking of actual information. If it has any, it's buried beneath questions and confusion. There should be a thread here, where you read the main body post, and you are ready to go. I'm going to try and make that thousand page long thread into one post, you can read right now, and not have to sift through thousands of comments to find an answer.

Let's approach this the right way. Hanging is a very common method, yet it also seems to be the most debated when it comes to logistics...why? The variables.

Hanging method #1: partial suspension : http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/hanging/short-drop/simple-suspension

Hanging method #2: full suspension: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging

How to tie a proper noose:

Valuable information:
  1. In general, there are two ways of performing suicide by hanging: suspension hanging (the suspension of the body at the neck) and drop hanging (a calculated drop designed to break the neck). Manual strangulation and suffocation may also be considered together with hanging.[26]

2. To perform a suspension hanging, a rope or other ligature is tied into a noose which goes around the neck, a knot (often a running knot, which tightens easily) is formed, and the other end of the rope is tied to a ligature point; the body is then suspended, which tightens the ligature around the neck.

Regardless of the material used to form the noose, suspension hanging will kill the person in three ways: compression of the carotid arteries, the jugular veins, or the airway.[9][27]About 11 lb (5 kg) of pressure is required to compress the carotid artery; 4.4 lb (2 kg) for the jugular veins;[9] and at least 15 kg (33 lb) for the airway.[15] The amount of time it takes to lose consciousness and die is difficult to predict accurately and depends on several factors. Some believe unconsciousness occurs in five seconds, though Alan Gunn writes that it generally takes longer. It took a man who filmed his hanging 13 seconds to become unconscious, 1 minute and 38 seconds to lose muscle tone, and 4 minutes and 10 seconds for muscle movement to cease.[28][29] Full suspension is not required; most hanging suicides are done by partial suspension, according to Wyatt et al.[30] Geo Stone, author of Suicide and Attempted Suicide: Methods and Consequences, suggests that death by obstruction of the airway is more painful than by the other ways.[26]

The aim of drop hanging, which is also frequently used in executions, is to break the neck. Participants fall vertically with a rope attached to their neck, which when taut applies a force sufficient to break the spinal cord, causing death.[26][31] The length of the drop, usually between 1.56 and 2.75 metres long, is calculated such that it is long enough to allow a less painful death, but short enough to avoid a decapitation.[32] This form of suicide is much rarer than suspension hanging[15] and is likely to be less painful.[33]

When I comes down to it, there are many ways you can choke yourself to death. If you cannot find peace in any of the information listed above, or any choking method already detailed here (like the night night method) then this method is simply not for you. It should be known already this is not a quick and painless death. You will experience agony, if only for a few seconds. If you think you can handle under 1 min of pain, hanging might be the best option for you. It's tried and tested true. It's all about how bad you want it.

There is a video I linked on how to tie a noose. If you jump off a solid object with that around your neck, you will be out in under 1 min and die if undisturbed. All these questions about rope quality and structural integrity of where you choose to tie to...don't kid yourself...it's up to you to find that out. If you are so desperate to find out the pounds per square inch a hotel closet bar can hold....I doubt your seriousness. Don't get me wrong, I've failed attempts too...but I can also be real about our situation...killing yourself is not hard...there are 1000000 ways to die...at the end of the day, it's how about how bad you want it.

Robin Williams probably didn't spend months of research on belt type statistics. He wanted to die, wrapped a belt around his neck, and did it. If you are not ready to face some uncomfortableness before your death, this method is not for you, plain and simple.

I don't want a painful death. I think hanging is the fools way out if I'm honest, because there are so many other less painful methods...but in the same breath, once you commit, that's it. There is no failing when you have a noose around your neck with a solid object.

Don't ask people about PSI. Don't ask people what rope to buy. Don't ask people what tree to tie too. These are all decisions you should be making yourself. The only thing you need to learn, is how to tie the rope, and what to tie it to. Once you know this, the ball is in YOUR court.

Edit: if you want this thread to gain traction, leave a comment and emoji. If you don't, this will get buried and the other thread will take back over, just saying.

Great Info, helpful. Thanks
 
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Lost all hope website looks like it's lost all hope. How ironic. I loved that site because it was almost unbiased. They just told you facts. So since that site is down right now, the method behind partial suspension might seem hidden. It's not, it's just a difference between your feet dangling or not. Partial suspension has the same logistics as full suspension, the only difference is, you have a small option to back out during panic. Both use basically the same physics, blood choke or oxygen choke. As harshly as my opinions have been worded here, essentially it's the same thing. If you have all your ducks lined up in a row, you only choose partial hanging for the failure option. If you fuck it up, you can bail and figure it out, if it's full suspension, you're gunna die no matter what, it just may not go as you planned. Both options have similar blueprints, the same game plan, it's just personal preference.
 
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Lost all hope website looks like it's lost all hope. How ironic. I loved that site because it was almost unbiased. They just told you facts. So since that site is down right now, the method behind partial suspension might seem hidden. It's not, it's just a difference between your feet dangling or not. Partial suspension has the same logistics as full suspension, the only difference is, you have a small option to back out during panic. Both use basically the same physics, blood choke or oxygen choke. As harshly as my opinions have been worded here, essentially it's the same thing. If you have all your ducks lined up in a row, you only choose partial hanging for the failure option. If you fuck it up, you can bail and figure it out, if it's full suspension, you're gunna die no matter what, it just may not go as you planned. Both options have similar blueprints, the same game plan, it's just personal preference.
It's still down. I wonder what happened
 
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