How to do ctb in a natural way

[edward77]

Hi friends i have been reading everything here and it was very much informative. Came to know about SN for the first time from here and have ordered one for me but it will be my plan b only. Actually i am only responsible for my pathetic situation now and its only me so i dont want to embarrass my parents relatives or frnds by doing ctb, but unfortunately i have no other option left. I have been thinking about this for over 1 year and have taken the decision but it will be good if my ctb looks like a normal death. So apart from drowning is there any other methods which looks like a natural death. As i dont wants to become a vegetable no risk taken by jumping or motor accident.

 

[ValideSultana]

I don't think there is any natural way, apart from drowning, or 'accidentally' falling from a great height. Maybe going for a walk along a high cliff edge? Please don't think this is encouragement, it's not. It's me trying to figure out ways of CTB that look natural. Most ways you do it, it's going to look like you were ctb.

 

[edward77]

I don't think there is any natural way, apart from drowning, or 'accidentally' falling from a great height. Maybe going for a walk along a high cliff edge? Most ways you do it, it's going to look like you were ctb.

I am planning to drink too much and fall into a river. i tried for hyperventilation as mentioned in a thread here but failed. Little bit anxious now as read many here saying that drowning is very painful.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I am planning to drink too much and fall into a river. i tried for hyperventilation as mentioned in a thread here but failed. Little bit anxious now as read many here saying that drowning is very painful.

I think there are way better methods out there than drowning that´s for sure but I was close to drowning once when I was a kid so I find it very scary that said just in the last year in Denmark the news has talked about missing person´s who eventually were found dead after they had gotten drunk in a club or bar and accidentally fallen in the harbor and drowned so I am sure it would look like an accident.

 

[edward77]

I think there are way better methods out there than drowning that´s for sure but I was close to drowning once when I was a kid so I find it very scary that said just in the last year in Denmark the news has talked about missing person´s who eventually were found dead after they had gotten drunk in a club or bar and accidentally fallen in the harbor and drowned so I am sure it would look like an accident.

do u remember more about the drowning ? was it painful or just scary ?... i dont know swimming so i feel that will also help me.

I think there are way better methods out there than drowning that´s for sure but I was close to drowning once when I was a kid so I find it very scary that said just in the last year in Denmark the news has talked about missing person´s who eventually were found dead after they had gotten drunk in a club or bar and accidentally fallen in the harbor and drowned so I am sure it would look like an accident.

u know any other methods which looks like an accident ?...

 

[TheGoodGuy]

do u remember more about the drowning ? was it painful or just scary ?... i dont know swimming so i feel that will also help me.

No because it wasn´t such a close call so I didnt fill my lunges with water I just sunk like a rock and my dad pulled me up I just think drowning is more the panic than actual physical pain but one of my biggest fears is also choking since it has happened 5-7 times where my dad has saved me with the heimlich maneuvre and it doesn´t hurt at all it´s just the panic of it so I guess that is another accidental method.

Also look up dry drowning that sounds pretty horrible.

 

[ValideSultana]

I am planning to drink too much and fall into a river. i tried for hyperventilation as mentioned in a thread here but failed. Little bit anxious now as read many here saying that drowning is very painful.

It depends how you drown. There are two main ways of drowning, wet and dry (dry is not a medical term, but still a cause of death). Instead of inhaling water into your lungs you die by asphyxiation or cardiac arrest. However, you have no control over which kind of drowning will happen to you, and wet drowning which is the most common is supposed to be painful. Frankly, I would discard this idea.

I did think of another way, although I do not want to appear to encourage you, and that is dying of hypothermia. Does the country you live in get really cold in Winter? You go out unprepared in that weather for long enough and you're going to die of cold. That's supposed to be pain free. You get cold, feel sleepy, go to sleep and then die.

 

[edward77]

It depends how you drown. There are two main ways of drowning, wet and dry (dry is not a medical term, but still a cause of death). Instead of inhaling water into your lungs you die by asphyxiation or cardiac arrest. However, you have no control over which kind of drowning will happen to you, and wet drowning which is the most common is supposed to be painful. Frankly, I would discard this idea.

I did think of another way, although I do not want to appear to encourage you, and that is dying of hypothermia. Does the country you live in get really cold in Winter? You go out unprepared in that weather for long enough and you're going to die of cold. That's supposed to be pain free. You get cold, feel sleepy, go to sleep and then die.

Unfortunately i am living in a tropical climate country. I have been researching a lot for 1 year and now feels its getting too late. My days r numbered now.. Cant wait to see the new year. As i dont want to embarrass my family i was always looking for an accidental way to die. anyway have ordered SN as a backup. Have not found anything other than drowning. So now thinking to drink too much. Normally if i drink too much i will not remember whatever happens to me till i woke up the next day. There were instances when i vomited in the bathroom but found me in the bed the next day when i woke up and i do not remember what happened to me during that time.. So will this blackout helps me to reduce the pain or will my reflexes come up even in a drunken state ?

 

[Farmmaa]

Hypothetically, if you took SN and then jumped in to the water, you would more than likely pass out before drowning.
If the cause of death on a younger person appears to be an obvious drowning, I'm not sure if they would do drug testing or not. I'm also not sure if SN shows up on drug tests

 

[edward77]

Hypothetically, if you took SN and then jumped in to the water, you would more than likely pass out before drowning.
If the cause of death on a younger person appears to be an obvious drowning, I'm not sure if they would do drug testing or not. I'm also not sure if SN shows up on drug tests

i have been thinking about that.. but read that body will turn blue after SN death. So it may cause suspicion.

 

[Saddad]

If you where able to have someone assist?

I have read that inert gas method undetectable as long as someone can take the equipment away after.

Big ask of anyone

Peace love

 

[ValideSultana]

Unfortunately i am living in a tropical climate country. I have been researching a lot for 1 year and now feels its getting too late. My days r numbered now.. Cant wait to see the new year. As i dont want to embarrass my family i was always looking for an accidental way to die. anyway have ordered SN as a backup. Have not found anything other than drowning. So now thinking to drink too much. Normally if i drink too much i will not remember whatever happens to me till i woke up the next day. There were instances when i vomited in the bathroom but found me in the bed the next day when i woke up and i do not remember what happened to me during that time.. So will this blackout helps me to reduce the pain or will my reflexes come up even in a drunken state ?

You're like me then. I live in a subtropical country. It gets cold in Winter here, but only 5C. I wish you all the best of luck, and safe travels.

 

[edward77]

If you where able to have someone assist?

I have read that inert gas method undetectable as long as someone can take the equipment away after.

Big ask of anyone

Peace love

no one to assist... looks like i will have to go with drunken drowning...

 

[voyager]

I drowned once and I'd love to tell you about it, but the problem is I wasn't even three years old and can hardly remember any of it. My last memory is playing at the pool with a friend, trying to fill one of my toys with water and then I slipped. Unfortunately, that's all I recall and it doesn't help you much. My friend then ran around the house to fetch my mum. This can't have been more than a minute, maybe half, but by the time she made it back to the pool I was already unconscious. I couldn't swim at the time and must have been screaming in panic when falling in, which is why my lungs had filled with water immediately. I remained unresponsive until my mum got me to cough out the water.

So, while I can't tell you what it felt like, I can say that it must've been a rather quick process. In fact, because it's just a blank spot in my memory, drowning was one of the methods I had on the table. Thought about chaining myself to a piece of concrete, watching the sun shine overhead. Only later did I discover that it was apparently quite painful and has an agony rating of 79 according to LAH, taking around 19mins on average. So, please keep that in mind.

 

[edward77]

I drowned once and I'd love to tell you about it, but the problem is I wasn't even three years old and can hardly remember any of it. My last memory is playing at the pool with a friend, trying to fill one of my toys with water and then I slipped. Unfortunately, that's all I recall and it doesn't help you much. My friend then ran around the house to fetch my mum. This can't have been more than a minute, maybe half, but by the time she made it back to the pool I was already unconscious. I couldn't swim at the time and must have been screaming in panic when falling in, which is why my lungs had filled with water immediately. I remained unresponsive until my mum got me to cough out the water.

So, while I can't tell you what it felt like, I can say that it must've been a rather quick process. In fact, because it's just a blank spot in my memory, drowning was one of the methods I had on the table. Thought about chaining myself to a piece of concrete, watching the sun shine overhead. Only later did I discover that it was apparently quite painful and has an agony rating of 79 according to LAH, taking around 19mins on average. So, please keep that in mind.

mmm may be i have to bear all these pain. i have a guilt feel if my death is certified as suicide as i dont know how my family handle it. they will be hell shocked. i am really concerned about them... i feel i deserve the painful death as i am sole responsible for what i am now.


today i went to a small forest like area near my house where there r lot of snakes. i spotted one and tried hard to make it bite me.. but the snake just ran away... unlucky day and will try it again tomorrow.... also anyone knows about Cerbera odollam, heard that it will result in heart attack after becoming unconscious and will die within 2 - 4 hours after eating it.

 

[Farmmaa]

mmm may be i have to bear all these pain. i have a guilt feel if my death is certified as suicide as i dont know how my family handle it. they will be hell shocked. i am really concerned about them... i feel i deserve the painful death as i am sole responsible for what i am now.


today i went to a small forest like area near my house where there r lot of snakes. i spotted one and tried hard to make it bite me.. but the snake just ran away... unlucky day and will try it again tomorrow.... also anyone knows about Cerbera odollam, heard that it will result in heart attack after becoming unconscious and will die within 2 - 4 hours after eating it.

It is most certainly toxic enough to be very effective... but.... in that 2 to 4 hour period before becoming unconscious , you can suffer from excruciating stomach pain, diarrhea, vomiting and headaches. Poisoning is usually a rather painful way to die.
On the up side, apparently it is almost undetectable as a cause of death.

 

[ValideSultana]

mmm may be i have to bear all these pain. i have a guilt feel if my death is certified as suicide as i dont know how my family handle it. they will be hell shocked. i am really concerned about them... i feel i deserve the painful death as i am sole responsible for what i am now.


today i went to a small forest like area near my house where there r lot of snakes. i spotted one and tried hard to make it bite me.. but the snake just ran away... unlucky day and will try it again tomorrow.... also anyone knows about Cerbera odollam, heard that it will result in heart attack after becoming unconscious and will die within 2 - 4 hours after eating it.

Firstly, I understand what you're saying about family, family is always hard.
Secondly, why on earth do you think you deserve a painful death? You don't deserve that, my lovely. Don't ever think that!

 

[voyager]

mmm may be i have to bear all these pain. i have a guilt feel if my death is certified as suicide as i dont know how my family handle it. they will be hell shocked. i am really concerned about them... i feel i deserve the painful death as i am sole responsible for what i am now.


today i went to a small forest like area near my house where there r lot of snakes. i spotted one and tried hard to make it bite me.. but the snake just ran away... unlucky day and will try it again tomorrow.... also anyone knows about Cerbera odollam, heard that it will result in heart attack after becoming unconscious and will die within 2 - 4 hours after eating it.

After falling unconscious though it shouldn't be anymore painful than any other method. The main problem, I think at least, is overcoming the dread of filling one's lungs with water, because it's such an unnatural process. There was a thread here somewhere about falling unconscious before drowning. But in general there are a lot of people here who want to make it look like an accident, so you're bound to find something useful.

Unfortunately, though you're right. People take natural death far easier than suicide. Why, alludes me. I'd feel more comfortable knowing somone who's miserable offing themselves voluntarily, rather than someone who's full of joy expecting their first child getting hit by a bus or destroyed by cancer. Overall though, I don't think you should punish yourself for things you probably had no control over.

 

[edward77]

Firstly, I understand what you're saying about family, family is always hard.
Secondly, why on earth do you think you deserve a painful death? You don't deserve that, my lovely. Don't ever think that!

its not that dear. i dont want to embarrass my family by suicide, there will be police inquiries, my relatives and neighbors will blame my parents for what happnd to me and they will have to face lot of agonies. they always loves me so much so giving them this much of legal issues and agonies in return is not a good idea.. Thats why i am planning my ctb to look like an accident.

After falling unconscious though it shouldn't be anymore painful than any other method. The main problem, I think at least, is overcoming the dread of filling one's lungs with water, because it's such an unnatural process. There was a thread here somewhere about falling unconscious before drowning. But in general there are a lot of people here who want to make it look like an accident, so you're bound to find something useful.

Unfortunately, though you're right. People take natural death far easier than suicide. Why, alludes me. I'd feel more comfortable knowing somone who's miserable offing themselves voluntarily, rather than someone who's full of joy expecting their first child getting hit by a bus or destroyed by cancer. Overall though, I don't think you should punish yourself for things you probably had no control over.

dear r u talking about hyperventilation ?. i read a thread by ben here. i tried it but was unsuccessful

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

Hypothetically, if you took SN and then jumped in to the water, you would more than likely pass out before drowning.
If the cause of death on a younger person appears to be an obvious drowning, I'm not sure if they would do drug testing or not. I'm also not sure if SN shows up on drug tests

Anything can be found on toxicology reports with gas chromatography / mass spectrometry. The question (to your point) is whether they will try to find anything by sending it out or just ruling it a drowning.

One plan I've kicked around is using blood alcohol content as a red herring to keep SN from being tested for and CTB in the bath or other water.

 

[Sensei]

I think this topic deserves a megathread. Or maybe there's one already?

 

[ValideSultana]

its not that dear. i dont want to embarrass my family by suicide, there will be police inquiries, my relatives and neighbors will blame my parents for what happnd to me and they will have to face lot of agonies. they always loves me so much so giving them this much of legal issues and agonies in return is not a good idea.. Thats why i am planning my ctb to look like an accident.

It's the same where I live with ctb. I live in a predominantly Sunni nation, but the people aren't necessarily strict adherents to the faith, although they believe in Allah, Shaitan/Iblīs, Aljana and Jahanam. There would be a police enquiry. My relatives don't live in this country, so they wouldn't be blamed, but IF I ctb and I had roommates, they would be 'guilty until proven innocent'. Mental illness supposedly doesn't exist in this country for the main part. If the doctors (apart from psychiatrists) find out you're on benzodiazepines, they think you're crazy. Do you live in a Muslim country?

 

[edward77]

Anything can be found on toxicology reports with gas chromatography / mass spectrometry. The question (to your point) is whether they will try to find anything by sending it out or just ruling it a drowning.

One plan I've kicked around is using blood alcohol content as a red herring to keep SN from being tested for and CTB in the bath or other water.

can u plz elaborate on blood alcohol content . i am sorry i didn't get it

 

[Farmmaa]

Anything can be found on toxicology reports with gas chromatography / mass spectrometry. The question (to your point) is whether they will try to find anything by sending it out or just ruling it a drowning.

One plan I've kicked around is using blood alcohol content as a red herring to keep SN from being tested for and CTB in the bath or other water.

Yes, there are tests that can detect it, but they are expensive, time consuming and usually not available in the areas where the trees are most plentiful.
If someone in North America or Europe were to take it... no one would even consider testing for it and most medical personel have probably never even heard of it

 

[edward77]

It's the same where I live with ctb. I live in a predominantly Sunni nation, but the people aren't necessarily strict adherents to the faith, although they believe in Allah, Shaitan/Iblīs, Aljana and Jahanam. There would be a police enquiry. My relatives don't live in this country, so they wouldn't be blamed, but IF I ctb and I had roommates, they would be 'guilty until proven innocent'. Mental illness doesn't exist in this country for the main part. If the doctors (apart from psychiatrists) find out you're on benzodiazepines, they think you're crazy. Do you live in a Muslim country?

i live in india.. if i write a suicide note saying that no one is responsible for my death then the police will close the case..but still there will be a formal inquiry before closing the case...

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

can u plz elaborate on blood alcohol content . i am sorry i didn't get it

Sure. BAC is easy to test. So if I drunk a bunch of alcohol before taking the SN, then my BAC would be high when I died, indicating I was probably intoxicated. If I'm found in a bathtub full of water, maybe they would think the alcohol led to my drowning and not test for other chemicals.

 

[edward77]

Sure. BAC is easy to test. So if I drunk a bunch of alcohol before taking the SN, then my BAC would be high when I died, indicating I was probably intoxicated. If I'm found in a bathtub full of water, maybe they would think the alcohol led to my drowning and not test for other chemicals.

it was said that the body will turn blue from sn death so will that be an issue ?

 

[ValideSultana]

i live in india.. if i write a suicide note saying that no one is responsible for my death then the police will close the case..but still there will be a formal inquiry before closing the case...

I thought you lived somewhere like that. I'm so sorry mate. I hope everything works out for you.

 

[edward77]

I thought you lived somewhere like that. I'm so sorry mate. I hope everything works out for you.

looks like its getting more complicated.. today i got my sn its written nitrite in the bottle but nitrate in the bill.. really confused now.. dont know what happns if its nitrate and i take 25g of those.

 

[edward77]

So my final week has come. It has been a horrible journey for me for the last 1 year. Things only got complicated and no miracles happened. So finally made up my mind. I didnt deserve to live here... So will try drowning tomorrow and have time till 30 dec to try it and if fails then will go for Sn on dec 31. i dont want to see the new year. i have 2 SN bottles as backup. One is written nitrite in the bottle and nitrate in the bill. So not sure which one is it actually. Second SN is written 90% purity. If the purity is low will taking more quantity serves the purpose ?.