how to deal with fear of hell?

[dune7263]

I am worried I will be tormented, mutilated and etc

 

[ForeverCaHa]

This is something I've been thinking about too. I say this as a non-believer. I've made peace with it simply due to the fact that I've committed plenty of sins, so being a suicide case won't make any difference. I'm gay, have been adulterous (not proud of it, of course), I've lied, and a whole lot more.

The thought of Hell does of course scare me, but it's a chance I'm willing to take at this point. If the Christian idea of God does exist, then, given the things he's allowed me to go through, I wouldn't give Him the time of day.

 

[Anti_Natalist]

First of all which hell are you talking about? The Christian one? The Muslim one? If your idea of hell is tied to a specific religion then why do you believe in that hell but not believe in concepts of the afterlife in other religions? If you research the history about how these ideas developed you can see how man made it is. Also, ask yourself why you believe in hell. Were you conditioned to believe it at an early age? Is there credible evidence that proves its existence? You can deconstruct your belief in hell by asking these questions. It can help you figure out the root cause of your fear and then maybe you can try and fix it from there. Over time, you are likely to recognize and understand that hell is just a primitive man made concept used to control people through fear. I hope this helps.

 

[deadbidaylight]

I'm a non believer so the thought of ending up in hell has never really crossed my mind. But I do agree with the above post. I have sinned my entire life. Hell I had a child out of wedlock and am in a relationship with her father and we still sin often, lol.

Even if I don't end up CTB, I'm going to hell anyway. CTB would just get me there sooner.

All jokes aside, this is only something that you can come to terms with. Everyone is going to have varying opinions on religion and what happens after death. Lots of people on here have strong opinions on the topic too, so take them with a grain of salt. Unfortunately there is no one around to tell us if hell exists or not. That exists inside yourself.

First of all which hell are you talking about? The Christian one? The Muslim one? If your idea of hell is tied to a specific religion then why do you believe in that hell but not believe in concepts of the afterlife in other religions? If you research the history about how these ideas developed you can see how man made it is. Also, ask yourself why you believe in hell. Were you conditioned to believe it at an early age? Is there credible evidence that proves its existence? You can deconstruct your belief in hell by asking these questions. It can help you figure out the root cause of your fear and then maybe you can try and fix it from there. Over time, you are likely to recognize and understand that hell is just a primitive man made concept used to control people through fear. I hope this helps.

Yes! To me, the existence of hell is similar to our parents telling us "if you make that face long enough, it'll stay like that." The invention of hell was made to force sheep to comply.

To anyone reading this, I mean no disrespect. These are my thoughts only, and I respect everyone's beliefs. We are all entitled.

 

[miseryonearth]

Where is hell?

 

[davidtorez]

I am worried I will be tormented, mutilated and etc

Research . Listen to debates about the subject. For what's it worth the majority contemporary philosophers and scientists don't believe in God. So I wouldn't worry about it too much

 

[EvisceratedJester]

(I am going to assume that you are Christian. I don't know what religion you belong to but Christianity is the most popular religion worldwide and most of the religious people on here seem to be Christian, at least from my experience, so I'm just going to guess that you belong to that religion. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)

I personally am an atheist, so I generally don't believe in this sort of crap. However, from what I understand, many Christians do interpret the depiction of hell and all the torment and stuff associated with it to be more metaphorical in nature rather than literal. Some interpret it more as being a metaphor for separation from God and his love, and thus a separation from good and happiness.

Research . Listen to debates about the subject. For what's it worth the majority contemporary philosophers and scientists don't believe in God. So I wouldn't worry about it too much

That's not true. Religiosity among scientists varies a lot, especially depending on the country, with many holding religious beliefs and belonging to the existence of a God/Gods.

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For example 30–39% of Western-European researchers identify with "some religious affiliation" [17, 18]. 30–37% of scientists identify as non-believers or atheists, and an additional 10–28% as agnostic (with wide geographical differences) [17, 19].

Creating a foundation for origin of life outreach: How scientists relate to their field, the public, and religion - PMC

Origins of life research is particularly challenging to communicate because of the tension between its many disciplines and its nearness to traditionally philosophical or religious questions. To authentically represent scientists’ perspective in a ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Table 2. Demographic and Religious Comparisons of Scientists across Eight Regions (Percentages).

	France	Hong Kong	India	Italy	Taiwan	Turkey	United Kingdom	United States
Female	30	26	34	38	32	40	38	32
Born out of nation	26	58	1	13	4	5	45	42
Currently married or living as married	81	56	59	63	61	70	61	67
Has two or more children	55	24	24	30	35	30	25	26
Identifies with some religious affiliation	30	31	94	65	58	84	37	39
Identified with some religious affiliation at age 16	53	20	98	84	48	90	55	60
Claims to be at least slightly a religious persona	16	39	59	52	54	57	27	30
Reports praying once a day or more	3	11	48	17	13	54	9	11
Reports attending religious services weekly	3	13	26	17	12	33	8	11
I know God exists, no doubtsb	5	17	26	16	20	61	9	10
N	645	276	1,606	1,262	776	431	1,531	1,779

Figure 2 shows the proportion of scientists and the population in each region who consider themselves slightly, moderately, or very religious. Looking exclusively at scientists across regional contexts, we see that the highest proportion of religious scientists is found in Italy, Taiwan, Turkey, and India, where more than half of scientists identify as at least "slightly religious." In all of these cases but Taiwan, however, religious identification is lower among scientists relative to the general population. In Taiwan, and especially Hong Kong, religious identification is much higher among scientists compared to the broader population, a pattern echoing the scientist-population comparison of participation in religious services in these contexts. France, the UK, and the US appear to have the group of scientists who are least religious, with 30 percent of US scientists, 27 percent of UK scientists, and only 16 percent of French scientists saying they are religious to any extent. Once again, the scientist-population comparisons are vastly different in these contexts relative to other regional contexts surveyed. Finally, given that the proportion of Indian scientists who attend religious services regularly is consistent with the Indian population (Figure 1), it is noteworthy that in terms of religious identification, Indian scientists are much less likely to identify as religious than the general public.

Figure 2. Percentage of scientists by region identifying as religious compared to population.
Note: UK, France, and Italy general population percentages come from the 2005–2009 World Values Survey. The remaining nations' percentages come from the 2010–2014 World Values Survey.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2378023116664353#table2-2378023116664353

 

[Haematemesis]

when i first apostated i used to fear hell
then i blasphemed many times. it was hard but got used to it. my fear of hell went away
go burn scripture or some stuff, it may help

 

[Soontocatch]

Well this will sound weird but if you have actively made the choice of killing yourself ig it's pretty much choosing between if you want to go through hell on earth or take the gamble in order to attain peace forever.Whatever choice you make just think of it as the path that was destined for you.It was how your life was supposed to end so there is nothing wrong with it.

 

[davidtorez]

(I am going to assume that you are Christian. I don't know what religion you belong to but Christianity is the most popular religion worldwide and most of the religious people on here seem to be Christian, at least from my experience, so I'm just going to guess that you belong to that religion. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)

I personally am an atheist, so I generally don't believe in this sort of crap. However, from what I understand, many Christians do interpret the depiction of hell and all the torment and stuff associated with it to be more metaphorical in nature rather than literal. Some interpret it more as being a metaphor for separation from God and his love, and thus a separation from good and happiness.

That's not true. Religiosity among scientists varies depending on the country, with many holding religious beliefs and belonging to the existence of a God/Gods.

It is true actually. The last I checked. Unless you have data to show me that I'm mistaken ? I'll gladly retract what I said
The religious beliefs of scientists and philosophers vary widely, and there isn't a simple answer that applies to the majority. However, there are some general trends and observations:

Scientists: Surveys and studies of scientists' religious beliefs have found that, overall, scientists are less religious than the general public. In particular, studies in the U.S. have shown that a significant percentage of scientists identify as atheists or agnostics. For example, a study published in Nature in 1998 found that only about 40% of American scientists believed in God, compared to roughly 90% of the general population. However, this doesn't mean that all scientists are irreligious—there are still many scientists who are religious or have spiritual beliefs.

Philosophers: The religious beliefs of philosophers also vary. Historically, many of the great philosophers were religious, but in modern times, there is a higher proportion of philosophers who lean toward secularism, atheism, or agnosticism. Surveys suggest that philosophers tend to be less religious than other academic groups. The Philosophical Review and other academic surveys have found that a significant number of professional philosophers do not believe in God or adhere to religious traditions.

So, while the majority of scientists and philosophers may not be religious or believe in God in the traditional sense, there are still many who hold various forms of spiritual or religious beliefs. It's important to note that beliefs can vary greatly depending on region, culture, and individual worldview.

This is just from ChatGPT.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

It is true actually. The last I checked. Unless you have data to show me that I'm mistaken ? I'll gladly retract what I said
The religious beliefs of scientists and philosophers vary widely, and there isn't a simple answer that applies to the majority. However, there are some general trends and observations:

Scientists: Surveys and studies of scientists' religious beliefs have found that, overall, scientists are less religious than the general public. In particular, studies in the U.S. have shown that a significant percentage of scientists identify as atheists or agnostics. For example, a study published in Nature in 1998 found that only about 40% of American scientists believed in God, compared to roughly 90% of the general population. However, this doesn't mean that all scientists are irreligious—there are still many scientists who are religious or have spiritual beliefs.

Philosophers: The religious beliefs of philosophers also vary. Historically, many of the great philosophers were religious, but in modern times, there is a higher proportion of philosophers who lean toward secularism, atheism, or agnosticism. Surveys suggest that philosophers tend to be less religious than other academic groups. The Philosophical Review and other academic surveys have found that a significant number of professional philosophers do not believe in God or adhere to religious traditions.

So, while the majority of scientists and philosophers may not be religious or believe in God in the traditional sense, there are still many who hold various forms of spiritual or religious beliefs. It's important to note that beliefs can vary greatly depending on region, culture, and individual worldview.

This is just from ChatGPT.

I already provided some sources in my original post. Also, the study that you are using from ChatGPT is from 1998 and only looks at the US. As I stated in my original post:

Religiosity among scientists varies a lot, especially depending on the country,

While one of the studies that I post is a bit dated, having been from around a decade ago, it also looks at differences in religion amongst scientists from multiple different countries.

Also, 40 percent is still a pretty significant number when it comes to the amount of scientists who believe in God, even if it is significantly lower compared to the general US public.

 

[dune7263]

First of all which hell are you talking about? The Christian one? The Muslim one? If your idea of hell is tied to a specific religion then why do you believe in that hell but not believe in concepts of the afterlife in other religions? If you research the history about how these ideas developed you can see how man made it is. Also, ask yourself why you believe in hell. Were you conditioned to believe it at an early age? Is there credible evidence that proves its existence? You can deconstruct your belief in hell by asking these questions. It can help you figure out the root cause of your fear and then maybe you can try and fix it from there. Over time, you are likely to recognize and understand that hell is just a primitive man made concept used to control people through fear. I hope this helps.

Muslim Hell worries me the most

 

[Corvette90]

Muslim Hell worries me the most

just curious, what does it say in scripture? I guess it's similar concept to Christian hell?

 

[dune7263]

just curious, what does it say in scripture? I guess it's similar concept to Christian hell?

eternal infinite torment with scorpions, snakes, angels guarding gates

 

[Anti_Natalist]

eternal infinite torment with scorpions, snakes, angels guarding gates

That sounds like a fairy tale/folklore. This idea of heaven and hell in the afterlife is like childlike simplicity of reward vs. punishment. The description of it sounds like a campfire horror story. Similar to how ghost stories make people afraid to go into the woods at night. But neither ghost stories or hellfire stories have ever been proven to be true. It's just hearsay at best. It's all about control and keeping people in line.

 

[dune7263]

That sounds like a fairy tale/folklore. This idea of heaven and hell in the afterlife is like childlike simplicity of reward vs. punishment. The description of it sounds like a campfire horror story. Similar to how ghost stories make people afraid to go into the woods at night. But neither ghost stories or hellfire stories have ever been proven to be true. It's just hearsay at best. It's all about control and keeping people in line.

I have had supernatural experiences

 

[Peace2peace]

I have had supernatural experiences

Like what share are u a muslim

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Only hell is this earth and life.

A human is just another animal = same cells, cells . Cells are machines, chemical reactions. A human is only chemical reactions.

If you read books on cell biology u see the first cell is inside every brain cell. All life descended from a cell that evolved 4 billion years ago

After my brain dies I will cease to exist forever.

 

[Darkover]

your already in hell

 

[FuneralCry]

What I personally fear is this hellish existence where there's no limit as to how much agony one can feel just to be tortured by old age, I find it horrific how one is capable of suffering to unlimited extents in this existence, to me existence truly is an abomination, I see existence as the most terrible tragic mistake that just causes harm and suffering, for me non-existence is all I see as desirable, I just believe death to be nothingness where all is finally gone and forgotten, all I hope for is to never suffer ever again, for me existence itself truly is the true problem.

 

[puzlewillburn]

everyone is going to hell. If life is not fair then neither will the afterlife. Think about it more fortunate people have the luxury of sinning less while less fortunate people sin more because of their pain/circumstance. So in the afterlife fortunate people who were fortunate in this life will also be fortunate in the next and us demons tormented by pain and forced to sin will burn anyways. So CTB is just skipping the hell in this life and going straight to the real deal.

 

[puzlewillburn]

Where is the evidence for what you say in your post?

i have never seen any evidence for an afterlife, reincarnation , soul , hell .

no just saying if there was an afterlife it wouldn't be fair like they say because logically that would be impossible

 

[dune7263]

Like what share are u a muslim

I am not really religious these days but i have witnessed demonic possession like something out of exorcist before

 

[shrizoid]

Muslim Hell worries me the most

Yeah that one seems horrible, at least its debated in Christianity on whether hell is really a place where one is tortured, but Islam 100% states that its real and it seems horrific

 

[marronfoncé]

are you aware that hell was made up by Plato ?

 

[avalonisburning]

Any belief system that promises Hell unless you do what they say and glorify them is bald-faced extortion.

There are few things worse than someone who expects headpats for doing something nobody asked them to do and lashing out when they don't get any, especially if they're a god. Nobody asked any of them to create the universe. They did that on their own, and we don't owe them anything. They only have as much power over us as we give them.

 

[BRAINWORMS]

I'm agnostic, but I take comfort in NDEs that talk about feelings of bliss and peace regardless of earthly actions. If you put any stock into them, NDEs suggest that we might have to review our lives and the ways we affected others, but past that, it seems peaceful.

 

[TheSeeker]

No answer to this, but I'm pretty fucking sure Hell doesn't exist. It just doesn't. The stuff written in the major bibles is just fiction created by the primary government of the time...I'm not advocating for you to kill yourself, but really man...just think about it...