cowbain

cowbain

teach me empathy
Jul 16, 2019
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To be fair I don't have much good things in my life in order to maintain positivity with my interactions but I know I can be dreadful so I want to learn how to be more positive. Both of my parents had 0 personality and were always negative (both narcissists) so I never really learned how to be 'human'. It's sucks because I really want to connect with people and fit in but it's like no matter what I do I can't. Can anyone relate and give tips on what worked for you?
 
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everydayiloveyou

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Do you mean negative as in people interpret you as depressing or boring? Or negative as in you are interpreted as a mean, harsh kind of person?
 
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netrezven

Mage
Dec 13, 2018
515
I inteact only with people i like. This can change at any time however :). What actually hepls me:
1. be myself /don't share anything, but be yourself/
2. don't care what people i don't like think about me
3. alcohol
4. i leave my phone in the car so my wife can't crush my little fun /going out and talking with friends/.
5. lot's of hate against stupid and jelous people, so i don't hide my temper about them. if they are stupid or jelous they gonna offend and won't bother me.
 
Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,031
Some advice that I live by that has given me my friends:

-Don't try too hard to win someone's favor. Most people don't like a brown-nose.
-Be willing to listen to someone if they have obvious problems that they're talking about. Try not to make it about you.
-Don't take things personally. Disagreeing with you doesn't mean they hate your guts. Even if they do, they might have a reason for it that you still couldn't control.


There might be more but this is what works best for me.
 
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woxihuanni

woxihuanni

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Aug 19, 2019
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Ask genuine questions rather than jumping in with your opinion. Pay attention to the difference between sharing own experience to create rapport, and making things about yourself. Watch for red flags that the other person is a shit person. If they are, keep the social interaction at a level that won't come back to bite you. Unfortunately, we cannot always get rid of shit people because then there are no people left in a limited environment.
 
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schopenh

schopenh

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Oct 21, 2019
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Hey. There's a couple of things I learned.
First, and this is the most important one, practice being completely chill. Don't get emotional no matter what the discussion is about. It doesn't matter how important the topic is to you, just don't get mad. This will genuinely make you like 10000% more likeable to everyone.

I'll give you an example in my own life. I've been an animal rights activist and ethical vegan for years. So I have a fair bit of emotional investment in it. One time I went to a dinner with a friend for their work and I am not kidding you the entire meal was two hours of absolutely everyone constantly shitting on me. And I won't elaborate but their comments were extremely rude and highly inappropriate. I could have justifiably put my knife and fork down after 10 mins and walked right out. But I just sat there completely stoically detached from it and matched everything they said with a grin and a witty comment. I've met many of these people since and we all get on great. Most of them are nice but got caught up in the groupthink and easy target. Two even apologised. And when they apologised, I didn't use it as an opportunity to shit on them, I thanked them and complimented them for doing so.

Adding on to this, just avoid offering your opinion on controversial things where it is at all possible. Make vague statements like "it's a complicated topic and I'd want to read and think about it a lot more before really offering any opinion."

My advice is to find a discussion on a topic you are really involved in, whether it's a political, religious or broader philosophical ideology and try read it without getting emotional. You'll also find you'll be able to tackle discussions better with a cooler head.

Now you might say, "won't people like/respect me if I'm passionate about my beliefs?" Nine times out of ten, no, they won't, unless what you're saying completely coincides with their beliefs. Do you feel all warm inside watching fascist dictators give passionate speeches? (maybe you do, but I imagine you get the point).

Listening is one of the easiest ways to become likeable. Listen, don't comment much and make simple empathetic statements like "I'm sorry". I've thought a lot about why people discuss their problems with others. Most people think it's because this person wants constructive, emotionless advice. But I don't think that's the case. I think if people want advice, they'll literally ask for it. What I actually feel people are doing when they tell you their woes is just processioning their thoughts for their own sake and hoping for some basic empathy and warmth in response. Next time someone tells you they have a headache, don't say "Did you take a paracetamol?" or "what do you think produced it?". Say, "What does it feel like?" followed by "is there anything I can do for you?" and give them a hug if you're comfortable with them.

This website is a perfect breeding ground for practising this. Take any post where someone is outlining their grief and instead of trying to give unsolicited advice, just make an empathetic statement. This is what the most likeable members on this board do. I can think of their names off the top of my head and typical variations of comments they leave.

Another piece of advice: don't make jokes at others peoples expense and especially not in front of others so that they become the center of a joke. Before you make any joke ask "could this have the potential to upset this person?". Usually if you're mocking their appearance, lifestyle choices, friends/family or beliefs it's just a bad idea.

I would say that the internet is a bad place to get feedback. People can lose it because they're copmpletely misinterpreting your emotional demeanour and intent of what you're saying. You can make the most banal comment and people can melt over it. So practice this stuff in real life and see how it goes down.

If you want more advice, feel free to PM me. I know it's vain to say but I'm genuinely very well liked in real life.
 
woxihuanni

woxihuanni

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Aug 19, 2019
3,299
I second the point about not giving advice unless asked. It is one of the easiest ways to make somebody hate your guts.
 
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Quinlor

Quinlor

The stranger
Feb 21, 2019
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Which people? I don't have nobody.
 
cowbain

cowbain

teach me empathy
Jul 16, 2019
143
Do you mean negative as in people interpret you as depressing or boring? Or negative as in you are interpreted as a mean, harsh kind of person?
Negative as in they interpret me as depressing/harsh. I'm nihilistic like all the time.
Some advice that I live by that has given me my friends:

-Don't try too hard to win someone's favor. Most people don't like a brown-nose.
-Be willing to listen to someone if they have obvious problems that they're talking about. Try not to make it about you.
-Don't take things personally. Disagreeing with you doesn't mean they hate your guts. Even if they do, they might have a reason for it that you still couldn't control.


There might be more but this is what works best for me.

That's good advice. I do most of these things already, honestly I think I'm just running into a lot of toxic people. Most of my interactions come from the internet so it's not always the best place to meet people, especially being a teen girl :/
Ask genuine questions rather than jumping in with your opinion. Pay attention to the difference between sharing own experience to create rapport, and making things about yourself. Watch for red flags that the other person is a shit person. If they are, keep the social interaction at a level that won't come back to bite you. Unfortunately, we cannot always get rid of shit people because then there are no people left in a limited environment.
I'm such a nonchalant person that unless someone is being blatantly disrespectful/triggering I will still talk to them and "tolerate" them. I think it stems from going through really horrible abuse so now I have the patience of a saint but also, there's a part inside of me that thinks "okay but they're not remotely anywhere near as bad as the big traumas I've faced in life so it's okay" I need to 100% snap out of that tho, it's not healthy. Thank you for the insight.
Hey. There's a couple of things I learned.
First, and this is the most important one, practice being completely chill. Don't get emotional no matter what the discussion is about. It doesn't matter how important the topic is to you, just don't get mad. This will genuinely make you like 10000% more likeable to everyone.

I'll give you an example in my own life. I've been an animal rights activist and ethical vegan for years. So I have a fair bit of emotional investment in it. One time I went to a dinner with a friend for their work and I am not kidding you the entire meal was two hours of absolutely everyone constantly shitting on me. And I won't elaborate but their comments were extremely rude and highly inappropriate. I could have justifiably put my knife and fork down after 10 mins and walked right out. But I just sat there completely stoically detached from it and matched everything they said with a grin and a witty comment. I've met many of these people since and we all get on great. Most of them are nice but got caught up in the groupthink and easy target. Two even apologised. And when they apologised, I didn't use it as an opportunity to shit on them, I thanked them and complimented them for doing so.

Adding on to this, just avoid offering your opinion on controversial things where it is at all possible. Make vague statements like "it's a complicated topic and I'd want to read and think about it a lot more before really offering any opinion."

My advice is to find a discussion on a topic you are really involved in, whether it's a political, religious or broader philosophical ideology and try read it without getting emotional. You'll also find you'll be able to tackle discussions better with a cooler head.

Now you might say, "won't people like/respect me if I'm passionate about my beliefs?" Nine times out of ten, no, they won't, unless what you're saying completely coincides with their beliefs. Do you feel all warm inside watching fascist dictators give passionate speeches? (maybe you do, but I imagine you get the point).

Listening is one of the easiest ways to become likeable. Listen, don't comment much and make simple empathetic statements like "I'm sorry". I've thought a lot about why people discuss their problems with others. Most people think it's because this person wants constructive, emotionless advice. But I don't think that's the case. I think if people want advice, they'll literally ask for it. What I actually feel people are doing when they tell you their woes is just processioning their thoughts for their own sake and hoping for some basic empathy and warmth in response. Next time someone tells you they have a headache, don't say "Did you take a paracetamol?" or "what do you think produced it?". Say, "What does it feel like?" followed by "is there anything I can do for you?" and give them a hug if you're comfortable with them.

This website is a perfect breeding ground for practising this. Take any post where someone is outlining their grief and instead of trying to give unsolicited advice, just make an empathetic statement. This is what the most likeable members on this board do. I can think of their names off the top of my head and typical variations of comments they leave.

Another piece of advice: don't make jokes at others peoples expense and especially not in front of others so that they become the center of a joke. Before you make any joke ask "could this have the potential to upset this person?". Usually if you're mocking their appearance, lifestyle choices, friends/family or beliefs it's just a bad idea.

I would say that the internet is a bad place to get feedback. People can lose it because they're copmpletely misinterpreting your emotional demeanour and intent of what you're saying. You can make the most banal comment and people can melt over it. So practice this stuff in real life and see how it goes down.

If you want more advice, feel free to PM me. I know it's vain to say but I'm genuinely very well liked in real life.
Some of this is good like, not getting reactional and learning how to listen to people instead of giving unsolicited advice, but a lot of it also felt like being a pushover. And as a person who grew up without being able to have an opinion or express emotions I don't think those approaches would be beneficial for me. I'm glad it's working for you tho!
 
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