How to accept there is not after life and die in peace?

[lonerclown666]

Many people and Science believe there is not after life if its true how i can make peace with the end of all my existence living for me is a torture everyday is a lot of pain that I want to end it how i can cope that there is nothing after? not reborn again not heaven or hell? just darkness how can i stay motivated for CTB?

 

[Snake of Eden]

our brains are wired for immortality. We just cant conceive of nothingness just like we cant remember before we were born. I wish you well

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

You could always try to weigh out the pros and cons of ceasing to exist. Try to focus on every possible thing you would miss out on by no longer existing. Do the bad things you no longer have to endure outweigh the aspects of life you enjoy? Only you can decide. You know/believe that death will mean no longer experiencing any sensation whatsoever so it's up to you to evaluate whether stopping the pain or ending the pleasure matters more for you.

 

[dreadpirateroberts69]

I would be more scared if there WAS an afterlife. Isn't ceasing to exist the whole point of killing yourself?

^what @Dr Iron Arc said. if you want to end your pain it comes with the choice of ending your ability to experience everything else too. You have to decide for yourself whether that's worth it.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

The idea of not going to Hell scares you? I don't get it, but I have now consumed several beers.

 

[Lost Magic]

You can't know that there is no afterlife, although, many people think that it is just lights out after death. Nobody, can ever know for sure, but look at it as an adventure. I'm about to pack my bags soon anyway and whatever happens, will happen. lol nothing you can do about it anyway.

 

[lostautist]

The concept of afterlife is conscious human construct. Experiences from sleep, near death and events that seem spiritual or ordained combined with philosophy helped to create. Survival Instinct is bound by evolution starting with cellular biology. Bacteria will even avoid and grow around substances that are toxic.

Consciousness, as far as we know is created from the electrochemical signaling between neurons and synapses. Once you die, these cells cease to signal. Some physicists believe that consciousness. at some level, could be universally fundamental, perhaps as even a fundamental force of nature. It is not known if any of the information is quantized or retained at the quantum level. There could very well be a conscious quantum field that interacts and is bound to the other fields. If perhaps it is, if the information persists it is not known where this information could go... dispersed into nothingness or retained by the fields. In the end it could very well be analogous to the views of organized religion.

That's why, when the devout religious theists or unbelieving atheists ask me, I just state, I do not know, there is no way I could and I also do not disavow anyone's belief. Science, at least currently, can neither prove or disprove the existence of a greater being or conscious existence after your biological host reverts to compounds and elements to be absorbed and reused. If you can comprehend how much energy potential is stored in just one atom, you begin to wonder what is actually possible.

 

[Chiisai]

Many people and Science believe there is not after life if its true how i can make peace with the end of all my existence living for me is a torture everyday is a lot of pain that I want to end it how i can cope that there is nothing after? not reborn again not heaven or hell? just darkness how can i stay motivated for CTB?

Hmmm... Are you against the notion that there is nothing after death? You dont have to believe in it if it makes you sad. Even if science says there is nothing, know that it is just assumption as no one can ever tell whether there is or there is none. Know that death is a personal experience. Whatever you believe of what comes after it, so be it as long as it gives you peace. I mean its your own experience you're looking forward to, dont let others dictate and control you of what to believe what happens after.

 

[KlMeNw]

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You could always try to weigh out the pros and cons of ceasing to exist. Try to focus on every possible thing you would miss out on by no longer existing. Do the bad things you no longer have to endure outweigh the aspects of life you enjoy? Only you can decide. You know/believe that death will mean no longer experiencing any sensation whatsoever so it's up to you to evaluate whether stopping the pain or ending the pleasure matters more for you.

Sometimes even if only the pain exists, the fear of death makes choosing that pain the more appealing option.

 

[markimobzzdeasui]

There are few realisations that help me as my date is approaching. First is that whatever there is, whether eternal hell, reincarnation, some other science fiction matrix like reality or just nothingness, I cannot and will never be able to control it or change the outcome Whether I die by suicide or wait for a 50 more years for natural death. As for the different possibilities after death that we have created since ages to soothe ourselves, none of them have been sufficiently proven and infact majority of them are riddled with biasness,hypocrisy,religions,politics,narcissism, etc etc. The only question that I ask myself is whether there is anything in my life that would make me to want life and the answer is always nothing. Plus my past and current conditions are sufficient enough to warrant suicide.
Regarding that fear of death, I don't think I will ever be able to overcome that with rational thinking.

 

[needed_]

Many people and Science believe there is not after life if its true how i can make peace with the end of all my existence living for me is a torture everyday is a lot of pain that I want to end it how i can cope that there is nothing after? not reborn again not heaven or hell? just darkness how can i stay motivated for CTB?

I really feel your post and what helps me is the thought that you will reach this point anyway. you will die no matter what and will end up wherever is or is not existent after dying. if it's gonna happen anyway, why should I try to avoid it with living a life full of pain?

 

[Snake of Eden]

I dont think the issue so much is the possibility for an after life for people as much as it is leaving this reality. We are afraid of the departure and not of the arrival

 

[FuneralCry]

I dont understand why someone would want there to be anything after this life, to me the thought of eternal nothingness comforts me, it sounds so peaceful to never have to experience anything ever again. It is the end of all suffering, and it is the end of me, nothing can hurt me when I am dead.

The thing that I cannot cope with is this life, I cannot deal with the fact that I have a pointless, empty future ahead of me and that things could get a lot worse. That is why I know I need to die. Life is just disappointment, pain and loss and I want to be free from all meaningless suffering. I belong in the eternal nothingness.

 

[Antinous]

Birth is a natural and amazing milestone following the coming together of DNA from a mom and a dad. It is the start of a life that is created by the person who lives it. We create our lives by the choices we make as we go along. Death is a natural and amazing conclusion in that creative act. In 2016 I held the love of my life in my arms as he drew his last breath at the end of VSED (Voluntary Stop Eating and Drinking). He was, he told me, in a state of complete peace. As the time approached, I wondered if I could emotionally hold myself together, for his sake. Turned out, it was no problem. Because it was for his sake. Love gives strength where there is weakness; courage where there is fear. I look forward to joining him. Not in an afterlife, because that is just wishful thinking. But in the reality that we had a few moments together while stumbling through this mess called living. Death can't take that away.

 

[Koppite]

Many people and Science believe there is not after life if its true how i can make peace with the end of all my existence living for me is a torture everyday is a lot of pain that I want to end it how i can cope that there is nothing after? not reborn again not heaven or hell? just darkness how can i stay motivated for CTB?

As you're asking for help with how to process the concept of death, try to remember that there will be no darkness because the experience of darkness (and indeed everything else, including time itself) is produced by one's own consciousness. When you do not have a consciousness, obviously you cannot be conscious of anything. And you cannot have a consciousness without the cells in your brain continuing to function - which, being dead, they won't.
So if you're worried about experiencing eternal darkness, don't be. 'You' will no longer be, so there will be no 'you' to experience anything at all, good or bad.

 

[Ethereal Knight]

There are few realisations that help me as my date is approaching. First is that whatever there is, whether eternal hell, reincarnation, some other science fiction matrix like reality or just nothingness, I cannot and will never be able to control it or change the outcome Whether I die by suicide or wait for a 50 more years for natural death. As for the different possibilities after death that we have created since ages to soothe ourselves, none of them have been sufficiently proven and infact majority of them are riddled with biasness,hypocrisy,religions,politics,narcissism, etc etc.

I love this point of view. Makes total sense. Worrying about something that we cannot control is a guarantee for frustration, anxiety and depression. For me, what makes sense is worrying about what I can control.
Like you said, me choosing to die now or waiting more 30-50 years to have cancer, heart attack or dementia, doesn't change too much. Also, the world is more than my own ego, the world doesn't evolve around me.
There is a quote by Basho that says "Sitting quietly, doing nothing, Spring comes, and the grass grows, by itself."

 

[Auto Immunity After]

There is a philosophy teacher from YALE who does a course on Death, Suicide and Afterlife. HIs name is Shelley Kagan. You can view his lectures on youtube. He is facinating no matter what you believe going in. He takes you through every case scenario to determine if there is an afterlife and if it is plausable to think we have a soul.

 

[gottago222]

i think about all the other uninhabited planets and how peaceful they are compared to earth. i will be apart of it

 

[fox_wannabe]

I am woo woo mystical person and afterlife scares me. Sounds like great opportunity but also danger.

Think of sleeping. Everybody loves that, you can't hear or feel anything. Death would be probably the same, minus the waking part.

 

[Rational man]

So many people fear death but we all do die in the end. If we accept this then whatever happens will happen. Hell, heaven, angels playing harps or thousands of virgins in wait. In the end you and I will go to wherever is.

 

[Shu]

I am woo woo mystical person and afterlife scares me. Sounds like great opportunity but also danger.

Think of sleeping. Everybody loves that, you can't hear or feel anything. Death would be probably the same, minus the waking part.

That's what we like to think.

 

[whywere]

I 100% agree with @gottago222, as I have been before and will after. Aside from the mental aspect of self-awareness we are carbon based, as is everything on this planet. We are a product of this universe and will always be.

Now as far as the intelligent aspect of our being, at least for me, there in again, I have been before, am now and always will be.

One constant in this expanding universe is that the more thing change, the more they stay the same.

We are ALL part of something so much bigger and grander than the human mind can ever understand, nor should we, as when we go out among the star and meet other life forms, we might get a small taste of what we actually are.

With 10 billion plus planets in an inhabitable zone, yes there is some form of life out there. There is now confirmed water on Mars so there one goes.

A heaven, hell or anything is for the individual, but the universe is for all.

Walter

 

[hopelessgirl]

You could always try to weigh out the pros and cons of ceasing to exist. Try to focus on every possible thing you would miss out on by no longer existing. Do the bad things you no longer have to endure outweigh the aspects of life you enjoy? Only you can decide. You know/believe that death will mean no longer experiencing any sensation whatsoever so it's up to you to evaluate whether stopping the pain or ending the pleasure matters more for you.

I'll try this as well. Very well put.

 

[AreWeWinning]

I'm struggling with this too.

I did the same thing what @Dr Iron Arc said. Made a list of what's bad, what's good, and what I expect going forward in my life. Compare those to non-existence. If fear was not a factor, I would choose non-existence without hesitation.

But fear is a factor. So far, what I have learned, is that there are no effective ways to deal with it. You can't get rid of the fear.

Occasionally, there are posts that say "if you are ready, you won't have fear, you'll feel peace". Maybe some people do, I don't know. But that's not how it works for me.

I have the feeling that if I want to go, I'll just have to do it despite being afraid. It's f*****g scary, and I have to do it anyway. I'll just start planning it out, get the accessories, find a location etc., and not think about it too much. Then I'll either be able to do it or not, that I don't know. It scares the hell out of me, even just thinking about it. What if I do all the preparations, go to my location, and I am actually able to do it. What if it is actually going to happen? Is this me? Do I need help? Is this really how it's going to end? Is this what I have become? When I think about it, I feel this deep sadness, emptiness, and dread. 'Dread' is a good word, I guess.

But I feel I just need to start getting prepared, because if I'm waiting for feeling peace, it's never going to happen.

 

[Al Cappella]

What's interesting to me is that ppl go on about life after death (I've wondered about it too), but very few mention life before birth. As far as we know there were 13.9 billion years of nothing before we got here, and so the idea of more of that after doesn't trouble me. I won't know about it.

I know parapsychology is investigating the idea of transferred experience/NDE, etc—see, they first have to prove that mind and brain can/are separate, or she don't work. I'm not saying there aren't curious phenomena out there, I just want proof.

 

[WorthlessMoron]

I'm scared of it too, but I just try to remember that we will all experience death eventually. And if I don't take my life myself, I might end up dying a painful death, like burning alive or something. Honestly, I'm more scared of failing now instead of death itself. Anyway, good luck, OP. I hope you find your peace.

 

[S like Siren]

When you will die I don't think you will realize you are dead... as a famous philosopher said: "Why do you fear death"? "When you are there she is not there and when she is there you are not there". The SI is extremely powerful and the instinct for life is very strong because of it, but when we die we will not even realize that we no longer exist, we create all these problems for ourselves now because we are conscious and alive.

 

[jimmy7754]

I'm struggling with this too.

I did the same thing what @Dr Iron Arc said. Made a list of what's bad, what's good, and what I expect going forward in my life. Compare those to non-existence. If fear was not a factor, I would choose non-existence without hesitation.

But fear is a factor. So far, what I have learned, is that there are no effective ways to deal with it. You can't get rid of the fear.

Occasionally, there are posts that say "if you are ready, you won't have fear, you'll feel peace". Maybe some people do, I don't know. But that's not how it works for me.

I have the feeling that if I want to go, I'll just have to do it despite being afraid. It's f*****g scary, and I have to do it anyway. I'll just start planning it out, get the accessories, find a location etc., and not think about it too much. Then I'll either be able to do it or not, that I don't know. It scares the hell out of me, even just thinking about it. What if I do all the preparations, go to my location, and I am actually able to do it. What if it is actually going to happen? Is this me? Do I need help? Is this really how it's going to end? Is this what I have become? When I think about it, I feel this deep sadness, emptiness, and dread. 'Dread' is a good word, I guess.

But I feel I just need to start getting prepared, because if I'm waiting for feeling peace, it's never going to happen.

I feel since it's not as simple as a light switch.. the struggle to get to our destination.. peace/death.. makes it extremely difficult. Makes us bitter.. angry.

 

[hopelessgirl]

I feel since it's not as simple as a light switch.. the struggle to get to our destination.. peace/death.. makes it extremely difficult. Makes us bitter.. angry.

Yeah I think that's my problem as well... That's why I'd really like to have N. But it got stuck with UPS for 6 weeks now so I only have Sn.

 

[StringPuppet]

I just tell myself that death will be the end of all my humiliations and anxieties. Nothing can hurt me or anyone else after death. Aside from Heaven, the Nothingness after death is the only escape we have from mortal suffering. Some people think we'll reach a technological singularity and create a utopia free from all suffering, but nothing like that can possibly happen in any time soon, so I'll continue to put all of my hopes on either Heaven or Oblivion. Eternal Return is the only thing I'm truly afraid of.