Discussion How risky is it to overdose in a cave or lost place and how can I calm myself down?

[HopefulSleep]

Some months ago I planned to overdose in the forest at night but I didn't do it cause I was afraid of being found and I was generally scared cause I felt uncomfortable cause that wasn't my home.
I already tried to overdose at home and was found so that is a bad idea.
For the place itself I can't find any caves online that aren't used for anything and for lost places I am worried that homeless people or adventurers go there.
If I find a good cave online or a lost place the problem is I need google maps to go there and then they can track my last point before I remove my sim card if I don't come home and maybe prevent me from overdosing.
Besides that even if I find a good place I am always feeling panic when outside my home, benoz aren't good at calming that down they just make me dumb at higher doses and opioids will just make me want to live in that moment same with alcohol I think.

 

[Rumi]

Some months ago I planned to overdose in the forest at night but I didn't do it cause I was afraid of being found and I was generally scared cause I felt uncomfortable cause that wasn't my home.
I already tried to overdose at home and was found so that is a bad idea.
For the place itself I can't find any caves online that aren't used for anything and for lost places I am worried that homeless people or adventurers go there.
If I find a good cave online or a lost place the problem is I need google maps to go there and then they can track my last point before I remove my sim card if I don't come home and maybe prevent me from overdosing.
Besides that even if I find a good place I am always feeling panic when outside my home, benoz aren't good at calming that down they just make me dumb at higher doses and opioids will just make me want to live in that moment same with alcohol I think.

It's hard to answer you question without knowing the details of your location, which you obviously can't give.

Have you considered using a tent? You could say that you were going on a night-hike, and bring a tent to CTB in. That is what I intend to do.

As for how to calm yourself down, I have no idea, anxiety isn't something I deal with.

 

[HopefulSleep]

ave you considered using a tent? You could say that you were going on a night-hike

In my state camping is illegal except for specific locations so if someone spots me carrying a tent I can get in trouble

 

[Rumi]

In my state camping is illegal except for specific locations so if someone spots me carrying a tent I can get in trouble

America moment.

But seriously, are you sure? Wild camping is legal in natural areas, you just can't camp near roadways or trails or in large groups. These laws aren't even enforced in many places.

 

[HopefulSleep]

America moment.

But seriously, are you sure? Wild camping is legal in natural areas, you just can't camp near roadways or trails or in large groups. These laws aren't even enforced in many places.

In my state it is indeed illegal to camp in forests and if I am found by a ranger and don't go out they can call the police and I would fail.

 

[Rumi]

In my state it is indeed illegal to camp in forests and if I am found by a ranger and don't go out they can call the police and I would fail.

Ah, that's unfortunate. Is it just forests or all public land?

 

[HopefulSleep]

Ah, that's unfortunate. Is it just forests or all public land?

What other public land, do you mean mountains?

 

[Rumi]

What other public land, do you mean mountains?

All land that isn't residential or commercially owned. That includes public parks, nature reserves, natural parks, and yes, mountainous and hilly regions I imagine.

 

[HopefulSleep]

public parks

natural parks

Not a private place so ctb there would be dumb.

nature reserves

Highly illegal to camp there in my state.

mountainous and hilly regions

I looked online also illegal but I don't know if there are rangers and I don't know any quiet mountains.

 

[Rumi]

Not a private place so ctb there would be dumb.

Highly illegal to camp there in my state.

I looked online also illegal but I don't know if there are rangers and I don't know any quiet mountains.

Public parks are empty at night and in the winter. Some of them could be large enough.

Natural parks are so large that it doesn't really matter that they are open to the public.

Also, if you are worried about being charged with a crime, don't. There isn't enough space in jails to lock up people who camp in parks, you would have to pay a small fine, most likely.

 

[HopefulSleep]

Public parks are empty at night and in the winter. Some of them could be large enough.

No big parks I am familiar of except one that is full of criminals at night so it would dumb to ctb there don't know how they would react.

Natural parks are so large that it doesn't really matter that they are open to the public.

There is a natural park in my city but many people visit it actually and I think it is actually closet at night and there aren't much quiet places there except maybe the forest but if someone sees me there vomiting cause of od I am fucked.
There is a small tower with a slide that is probably a good place at night but as I said I don't know if I could go there at night and besides that my mom would panic if I wouldn't come home at night.

Also, if you are worried about being charged with a crime, don't. There isn't enough space in jails to lock up people who camp in parks, you would have to pay a small fine, most likely.

The problem is more if they find me while overdosing, vomiting and stuff.

 

[Rumi]

It sounds like you are very restricted in where you can go. Maybe an OD just isn't a viable method for you due to the time it takes.

I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help.

 

[HopefulSleep]

It sounds like you are very restricted in where you can go. Maybe an OD just isn't a viable method for you due to the time it takes.

I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help.

When I think about it on the playground I used to play as a kid is a really good hiding spot I know from hide and seek back then in a little tower and I am sure that no one will be there at night except maybe some teenagers doing drugs but they should notice me in the tower.
To avoid children finding me I would have to send an automatic email to law enforcement so that they find me before the morning starts.
The problem would be I need an excuse for my mother or they will search for me nearby.
I also thought about going into a big trashcan from a school on weekends so that no one opens it and overdose in there but this would be a very shameful death.
For the last school I went to I can maybe do it on the weekend on the schoolyard somewhere but I don't know if the janitor is there.

 

[Rumi]

When I think about it on the playground I used to play as a kid is a really good hiding spot I know from hide and seek back then in a little tower and I am sure that no one will be there at night except maybe some teenagers doing drugs but they should notice me in the tower.
To avoid children finding me I would have to send an automatic email to law enforcement so that they find me before the morning starts.
The problem would be I need an excuse for my mother or they will search for me nearby.
I also thought about going into a big trashcan from a school on weekends so that no one opens it and overdose in there but this would be a very shameful death.
For the last school I went to I can maybe do it on the weekend on the schoolyard somewhere but I don't know if the janitor is there.

I'm sorry bro, this sounds like a very difficult situation.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

How about just a public campground? You'd be in your own tent - who is going to bother you there? Someone is going to find you, eventually, no matter where you CTB.

 

[HopefulSleep]

How about just a public campground? You'd be in your own tent - who is going to bother you there? Someone is going to find you, eventually, no matter where you CTB.

The problem is overdosing can potentially be loud, especially the vomiting and maybe at the beginning you could make weird sounds before your breathing completely stops and tents aren't good at all to reduce noise.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

The problem is overdosing can potentially be loud, especially the vomiting and maybe at the beginning you could make weird sounds before your breathing completely stops and tents aren't good at all to reduce noise.

You do know that overdosing has like a 70-80% failure rate, too. I'm not trying to talk you out of anything, just presenting the facts so you have all pertinent information. As far as the noise, how about a hotel room? Maybe you could muffle the sound by having the shower running, or a radio or TV on?

 

[HopefulSleep]

You do know that overdosing has like a 70-80% failure rate, too. I'm not trying to talk you out of anything, just presenting the facts so you have all pertinent information.

I don't understand this number, is it for all overdoses combined? If yes that is obvious, most people overdose with otc pills that obviously won't work and the smallest number are people who overdose on strong sedatives.
This number can't be for a perfect overdose cause I am sure a high nembutal dose has a near guaranteed death.
Or is it cause of people finding you cause it takes so long?
Please explain that number to me.

As far as the noise, how about a hotel room?

What are the cheapest hotels and what excuse can I use for my paranoid strict mother where I go?
She knows something is different when I go out, I am usually in front of my pc all the time.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I don't understand this number, is it for all overdoses combined? If yes that is obvious, most people overdose with otc pills that obviously won't work and the smallest number are people who overdose on strong sedatives.
This number can't be for a perfect overdose cause I am sure a high nembutal dose has a near guaranteed death.
Or is it cause of people finding you cause it takes so long?
Please explain that number to me.

I don't know the rationale regarding the hows and the whys, but here's the chart. Don't ask me how the numbers were compiled.

 

[HopefulSleep]

I don't know the rationale regarding the hows and the whys, but here's the chart. Don't ask me how the numbers were compiled.

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It seems to me that the success rate is all drug overdoses combined.
I think this chart should be updated to split the ways to overdose.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

It seems to me that the success rate is all drug overdoses combined.
I think this chart should be updated to split the ways to overdose.

I didn't make the chart. It is what it is.

 

[HopefulSleep]

I didn't make the chart. It is what it is.

Where is it from?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Where is it from?

Not sure. It's been floating around here since I first joined at least. Maybe someone will know if it's from the PPH - I'm not sure.

 

[Das Nichts]

If you live in a apartment complex there might be utility rooms which can be unlocked with your Appartment keys.

I live in a smaller complex and have access to the room with the heating equipment. The chances of being discovered there in time are very low.

 

[HopefulSleep]

If you live in a apartment complex there might be utility rooms which can be unlocked with your Appartment keys.

You mean with the keys to the apartment or to enter the staircase?
I don't have either my family just opens me.
Do you mean those rooms in the basement?

 

[Das Nichts]

Do you mean those rooms in the basement?

Yes. Utility rooms for heating, water etc.

 

[HopefulSleep]

Yes. Utility rooms for heating, water etc.

I thought only the janitor has access to that?

 

[Das Nichts]

I thought only the janitor has access to that?

Only one way to find out.

 

[HopefulSleep]

Only one way to find out.

But I don't understand which key I need.

 

[Das Nichts]

But I don't understand which key I need.

Like I said my Appartment key also unlocks this room. if you don't have an Appartment key this discussion is pointless.