How much SN do I need if I don’t have antiemetics?

[purplesky9]

If I can't get hold of any antiemetics would it make sense to buy a larger amount of SN because I may vomit more requiring more SN. I may fail to ingest enough SN requiring more than one attempt.

 

[pointblank]

25g makes one attempt. So 50g minimum if you worry you might puke it out—I guess.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

The 25g amount was (somehow) arrived at being the "best" amount a normal sized person should take to provide the best chance at a successful ctb, EVEN WHEN PUKING IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. The way I understand things is the body views SN as a poison in the amounts we're talking about, even significantly lesser amounts than the 25g. It's going to take steps to remove even 10g. The idea of 25g is to try and get more into your system before vomiting. If you try and take less, you (probably) won't vomit quite as fast, but who knows? But, you stand a greater chance of not getting enough into your system and having a failed attempt. If you try an amount greater than 25g, it will (probably) just result in a quicker vomit reflex, maybe even more of a violent one, but I don't really know for sure.

I'd just stick with the 25g/50ml ratio and have a couple/few cups mixed up in case you have a very quick vomit reflex. Honestly, after puking, you're going to have a hard time even drinking one extra cupful, let alone multiple ones. Having enough for 3 or 4 cups won't hurt anything I guess.

Also, you could try an over-the-counter medicine with AE properties called Dramamine, but it most likely won't be as good as a prescription one.

 

[testingthis101010]

The 25g amount was (somehow) arrived at being the "best" amount a normal sized person should take to provide the best chance at a successful ctb, EVEN WHEN PUKING IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. The way I understand things is the body views SN as a poison in the amounts we're talking about, even significantly lesser amounts than the 25g. It's going to take steps to remove even 10g. The idea of 25g is to try and get more into your system before vomiting. If you try and take less, you (probably) won't vomit quite as fast, but who knows? But, you stand a greater chance of not getting enough into your system and having a failed attempt. If you try an amount greater than 25g, it will (probably) just result in a quicker vomit reflex, maybe even more of a violent one, but I don't really know for sure.

I'd just stick with the 25g/50ml ratio and have a couple/few cups mixed up in case you have a very quick vomit reflex. Honestly, after puking, you're going to have a hard time even drinking one extra cupful, let alone multiple ones. Having enough for 3 or 4 cups won't hurt anything I guess.

Also, you could try an over-the-counter medicine with AE properties called Dramamine, but it most likely won't be as good as a prescription one.

From the videos I've watched of successful attempts, no one has been able to drink the second cup, so I guess your explanation makes sense! So basically you would need a single 25g/50mL cup which has the best chances to work.

 

[readytogonow!]

From the videos I've watched of successful attempts, no one has been able to drink the second cup, so I guess your explanation makes sense! So basically you would need a single 25g/50mL cup which has the best chances to work.

where are the videos?
and do you mean the first cup was enough to CTB even with puking?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

From the videos I've watched of successful attempts, no one has been able to drink the second cup, so I guess your explanation makes sense! So basically you would need a single 25g/50mL cup which has the best chances to work.

Really? No one? How many vids? Someone had to have been able to do it. Yeah, 25g is way over the amount needed, although no one is actually getting that amount into their system.

 

[testingthis101010]

Really? No one? How many vids? Someone had to have been able to do it. Yeah, 25g is way over the amount needed, although no one is actually getting that amount into their system.

Watched 3 or 4 videos. And I think that most of those who were filmed by Dr Philip did take just one dose. But I am not sure. In my case, I will prepare a single drink, I weight 62kg.

where are the videos?
and do you mean the first cup was enough to CTB even with puking?

Yes one cup was enough. Videos of individuals in this same site. 10g is already a lethal dose for most of us.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Yes one cup was enough. Videos of individuals in this same site. 10g is already a lethal dose for most of us.

But it's 10g that actually absorbs into your system that's lethal. There's definitely a chance that you won't get that much into your system if you vomit quickly, hence the reason for having a prepared 2nd cup. Of course, it's entirely your decision to take that chance.

 

[testingthis101010]

But it's 10g that actually absorbs into your system that's lethal. There's definitely a chance that you won't get that much into your system if you vomit quickly, hence the reason for having a prepared 2nd cup. Of course, it's entirely your decision to take that chance.

You are right!

 

[Observer13]

Watched 3 or 4 videos. And I think that most of those who were filmed by Dr Philip did take just one dose. But I am not sure. In my case, I will prepare a single drink, I weight 62kg.

Yes one cup was enough. Videos of individuals in this same site. 10g is already a lethal dose for most of us.

May I ask where you found Dr. Philips video?

 

[bankai]

I've been wondering about this as well. Can I just down SN without anything else? has anyone done it in any other vide

 

[Valhala]

Exactly the same amount as if you were using antiemetics. Up to 100 kg of body weight 25 g SN, over 100 kg 35 g.
I would like to remind you that SN is an extremely powerful poison and that lethal outcomes have been recorded with an amount of only 1 gram.

 

[Romanticize]

Slow absorption, stomach contents and vomiting - which all are very likely without antiemetic&prokinetic, can severely impact reliability of SN method.

I would go for 25g SN and have another cup with 10-15g ready if I vomited. And the same with meto.