sevennn

sevennn

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Sep 11, 2024
565
I would like to do sn but the need of other medications is holding me back. I don't look forward to the symptoms from sn. Who does? But I think I could manage those knowing they are temporary.

But with my chronic health condition I don't see myself tolerating the other medications and I have concerns that if I survived sn I would end up with damage from the meds.

If I was ten years younger and healthier this method wouldn't concern me. But isn't that the catch? I'm resorting to this from health problems but also trapped by my poor health making it difficult to manage the necessary protocol.

I'm exhausted trying to figure this out. And not in the capacity necessary to do so. I wish I could simply lie down in my comfy bed and not wake up tomorrow.
yeah. i have a bit of a stomach problem. wish i didnt. it is ironic because it's a part of my reason and it'll make SN more difficult. great
 
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killorbekilled

manhwa reader, mentally unwell
Oct 3, 2024
65
As much as I would like to, I am still searching for the source. SN seems to be the least painful. NOt looking forward to tasting it though.
 
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sevennn

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Sep 11, 2024
565
As much as I would like to, I am still searching for the source. SN seems to be the least painful. NOt looking forward to tasting it though.
yeah wish putting it in capsules worked. but people say it doesn't. someone here put it up their bum though. so that's a way ig
 
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killorbekilled

manhwa reader, mentally unwell
Oct 3, 2024
65
yeah wish putting it in capsules worked. but people say it doesn't. someone here put it up their bum though. so that's a way ig
Um that does not seem pleasant at all hahaha I am not gonna do that.
 
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Valhala

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Jul 30, 2024
170
true, but a shotgun in the mouth is pretty certain lol
Or a hand grenade - even safer but also quite horrible.
99 %, SN is high on my priority list since N is almost impossible to get
 
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Asleepatlast

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Sep 12, 2024
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yeah. i have a bit of a stomach problem. wish i didnt. it is ironic because it's a part of my reason and it'll make SN more difficult. great
I'm starting to panic on how I'm going to accomplish this. I don't think there will be anyway for me to pull off several days of taking meto. Much less any of it on an empty stomach.

I keep wondering if I can pull this off without an AE. People are vomiting anyway in a lot of accounts. I understand the meto can speed up absorption but do we know how big of a difference this can actually make? I haven't been able to find any actual numbers on this or any sn accounts using sn only.
 
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sevennn

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Sep 11, 2024
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I'm starting to panic on how I'm going to accomplish this. I don't think there will be anyway for me to pull off several days of taking meto. Much less any of it on an empty stomach.

I keep wondering if I can pull this off without an AE. People are vomiting anyway in a lot of accounts. I understand the meto can speed up absorption but do we know how big of a difference this can actually make? I haven't been able to find any actual numbers on this or any sn accounts using sn only.
you don't have to take meto for several days. check around the forum. i'm def not doing that. just some meto before i drink SN. i think meto speeds up gastric emptying
 
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LunarLight

i'm a loser, a failure
Apr 3, 2024
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I keep wondering if I can pull this off without an AE
D2 dopamine antagonist antiemetics would increase your chances of success by helping you not throwing up and speeding up gastric emptying, making it easier for the body to absorb the SN. You can pull it off without them but you increase your chances of failure. My piece of advice would be to prepare another 25g SN glass (35g if you weigh over 100kg) in case you throw up.
you don't have to take meto for several days
I agree. You can take just a stat dose, it's enough.
 
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Asleepatlast

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you don't have to take meto for several days. check around the forum. i'm def not doing that. just some meto before i drink SN. i think meto speeds up gastric emptying
Yeah that's what I read. I know there is the 48 hour protocol and the stat. I am nervous about the stat protocol also. Mostly if something goes wrong. It's not a typical concern. Just my health presenting problems. I just want to be meticulous and get this right and not back out before even getting started.

I do have zofran but have only read about using it in combo with keto. I'll have to keep researching to see if it is sufficient on it's own. Plus, it can help with headaches so maybe there will be some benefit there.
D2 dopamine antagonist antiemetics would increase your chances of success by helping you not throwing up and speeding up gastric emptying, making it easier for the body to absorb the SN. You can pull it off without them but you increase your chances of failure. My piece of advice would be to prepare another 25g SN glass (35g if you weigh over 100kg) in case you throw up.

I agree. You can take just a stat dose, it's enough.
Thank you. I just considered if it was possible to skip since so many throw up anyway. I definitely am not suggesting in general to change protocol. I just get to be a lucky special case with my health issues. Usually this stuff wouldn't even concern me.

I react very poorly to meds in general so hoping a stat dose wouldn't overwhelm me and prevent me from taking sn. And without any cases without ae there is no way to know what difference an ae truly makes. Too risky to be a guinea pig.

I'm also really worn out and my health issues make me scatterbrained so apologies if I'm asking redundant questions. I research and try to retain it all but it's a challenge.
 
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sevennn

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Yeah that's what I read. I know there is the 48 hour protocol and the stat. I am nervous about the stat protocol also. Mostly if something goes wrong. It's not a typical concern. Just my health presenting problems. I just want to be meticulous and get this right and not back out before even getting started.

I do have zofran but have only read about using it in combo with keto. I'll have to keep researching to see if it is sufficient on it's own. Plus, it can help with headaches so maybe there will be some benefit there.

Thank you. I just considered if it was possible to skip since so many throw up anyway. I definitely am not suggesting in general to change protocol. I just get to be a lucky special case with my health issues. Usually this stuff wouldn't even concern me.

I react very poorly to meds in general so hoping a stat dose wouldn't overwhelm me and prevent me from taking sn. And without any cases without ae there is no way to know what difference an ae truly makes. Too risky to be a guinea pig.

I'm also really worn out and my health issues make me scatterbrained so apologies if I'm asking redundant questions. I research and try to retain it all but it's a challenge.
ok then i think there are different AE you can take. because meto can have some side effects that can be kind of serious
 
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Thisisme373

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Feb 16, 2019
416
Me. I am going to drive to some unknown place so I won't be able to call anyone if my SI kicks in.
You going to do it in your car? Won't it be awkward using scales and mixing the drink etc? I myself thought about doing it in the car somewhere but these things I could see being a problem
 
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Asleepatlast

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Sep 12, 2024
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ok then i think there are different AE you can take. because meto can have some side effects that can be kind of serious
Thank you. I definitely don't think I'd be able to take it on an empty stomach either.
 
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purplesky9

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Me hopefully if I can get my hands on. It would be my first choice anyway.
 
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EmptyCurtainCall

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Oct 11, 2024
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I'm starting to panic on how I'm going to accomplish this. I don't think there will be anyway for me to pull off several days of taking meto. Much less any of it on an empty stomach.

I keep wondering if I can pull this off without an AE. People are vomiting anyway in a lot of accounts. I understand the meto can speed up absorption but do we know how big of a difference this can actually make? I haven't been able to find any actual numbers on this or any sn accounts using sn only.
"vomiting anyway" isn't a reason to skip ae's. sn without dosage of ae increases the risk of failure. most of the ppl that say they vomited were still successful. obviously, the vomiting would be much more severe if you didn't take it at all. it's just not a risk to take but if you're confident, try sn with just benzos, maybe some weed for the nausea, and see if it's successful or peaceful. if it doesn't work, you likely have sn left and can wait for another attempt after you've secured an ae
 
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SixNeufUn

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Oct 8, 2024
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✌️ Just waiting to receive it. I hope before my birthday so... in 5 days
 
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Asleepatlast

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Sep 12, 2024
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"vomiting anyway" isn't a reason to skip ae's. sn without dosage of ae increases the risk of failure. most of the ppl that say they vomited were still successful. obviously, the vomiting would be much more severe if you didn't take it at all. it's just not a risk to take but if you're confident, try sn with just benzos, maybe some weed for the nausea, and see if it's successful or peaceful. if it doesn't work, you likely have sn left and can wait for another attempt after you've secured an ae
Thank you.

My thought too is we take quite a bit more of sn than is necessary for lethality. That may contribute to the vomiting. But also the stomach absorbs liquids rather quickly so I'm not sure why it is mentioned for meto to to be necessary for stomach emptying.

And for me taking all of those pills, especially on an empty stomach would highly increase the odds of vomiting.

I don't know who exactly came up with the protocol or their reasoning but I don't think it's anything set in stone or do we have sufficient evidence for it's efficacy and necessity.

Just my thoughts. I understand I would be going rogue but my health is just such a barricade atm.
 
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EmptyCurtainCall

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Oct 11, 2024
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Thank you.

My thought too is we take quite a bit more of sn than is necessary for lethality. That may contribute to the vomiting. But also the stomach absorbs liquids rather quickly so I'm not sure why it is mentioned for meto to to be necessary for stomach emptying.

And for me taking all of those pills, especially on an empty stomach would highly increase the odds of vomiting.

I don't know who exactly came up with the protocol or their reasoning but I don't think it's anything set in stone or do we have sufficient evidence for it's efficacy and necessity.

Just my thoughts. I understand I would be going rogue but my health is just such a barricade atm.
oh absolutely, i understand, a lot of ppls stomach is sensitive i'm well aware. that's why i suggested weed and i believe that's mentioned in one of the pph books, ive never been able to throw up while high, so hopefully if you can access and use it, it'll be of use to you
 
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Asleepatlast

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Sep 12, 2024
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oh absolutely, i understand, a lot of ppls stomach is sensitive i'm well aware. that's why i suggested weed and i believe that's mentioned in one of the pph books, ive never been able to throw up while high, so hopefully if you can access and use it, it'll be of use to you
Oh I really appreciated your comment. This group has been so supportive and helpful. I'm just thinking it through for myself. I might have to consider stat dose.
 
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howunfortunateforme

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Did you figure this out I'm in a similar predicament
 
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