Help How important is it to use an antiemetic with SN?

[hurtbox]

Assuming I do the proper 8 hours of fasting, have antacids and have a 2nd cup of SN prepared whats the chance that it'll still work? I still intend on getting an antiemetic but im having trouble finding a way to get some without a prescription.

 

[RandomDude1234]

It all depends on how much SN your body absorbs. Antiemetic is just to ensure that you don't vomit it all out.

About chances, chances are high that it will work (especilly if you can drink the second cup if you vomit out the first), but not taking antiemetic is a risk. You might immediately vomit out the second cup too, which would mean that your body didn't have time to absorb the SN

 

[hurtbox]

It all depends on how much SN your body absorbs. Antiemetic is just to ensure that you don't vomit it all out.

About chances, chances are high that it will work (especilly if you can drink the second cup if you vomit out the first), but not taking antiemetic is a risk. You might immediately vomit out the second cup too, which would mean that your body didn't have time to absorb the SN

Thnaks for the reply. Do you know how fast the necessary absorption would be with antacids?

 

[RandomDude1234]

As far as I know, they don't really help that much.

 

[wlhenry]

just ensure that you don't vomit it all out

 

[hurtbox]

As far as I know, they don't really help that much.

Still think im going to get them cause its pretty easy to get them, but good to know.

just ensure that you don't vomit it all out

If im still conscious i think ill be fine, however will i still vomit once i pass out?

 

[wlhenry]

Still think im going to get them cause its pretty easy to get them, but good to know.

If im still conscious i think ill be fine, however will i still vomit once i pass out?

Yes you can still vomit after passout

 

[Lost Magic]

As far as I am concerned (and according to the PPH) it is essential to have an anti-emetic. There is no reason why you shouldn't. Even if it is an over-the-counter like Buccastem. Because it is poisonous there is a high likelihood of nausea and vomiting. I feel like a broken down record because I have heard so many people ask about this. So, please do yourself a favour and get something.

 

[hurtbox]

As far as I am concerned (and according to the PPH) it is essential to have an anti-emetic. There is no reason why you shouldn't. Even if it is an over-the-counter like Buccastem. Because it is poisonous there is a high likelihood of nausea and vomiting. I feel like a broken down record because I have heard so many people ask about this. So, please do yourself a favour and get something.

Cant get any dopamine antagonists (iirc the antiemetic had to be a dopamine antagonist to work with SN), including the aus equivalent of buccastem without a prescription in Australia. The stuff I can get over the counter is stuff for travel sickness and that doesn't work apparently.

 

[RandomDude1234]

@Lost Magic OTC ones don't work because they target different part of the brain.

Still think im going to get them cause its pretty easy to get them, but good to know.

Yeah, doesn't hurt since it's so easy to get.

 

[Lost Magic]

Cant get any dopamine antagonists (iirc the antiemetic had to be a dopamine antagonist to work with SN), including the aus equivalent of buccastem without a prescription in Australia. The stuff I can get over the counter is stuff for travel sickness and that doesn't work apparently.

Ah, I see. Can you not get some from an online pharmacy? Anyway, get isopropyl alcohol swabs. Sniffing them is supposed to be a powerful anti-sickness. Look into it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6189884/

 

[hurtbox]

Ah, I see. Can you not get some from an online pharmacy? Anyway, get isopropyl alcohol swabs. Sniffing them is supposed to be a powerful anti-sickness. Look into it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6189884/

All online pharmacies need to have a prescription sent to them to order. Definatly will look into the swabs tho.

 

[makethepainstop]

Keeping the sn down is if primary importance. If you can't keep enough of a toxin in your body, it can't do its good work. I have found that eating say five THC gummies, will put you on another planet.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

It all depends on how much SN your body absorbs. Antiemetic is just to ensure that you don't vomit it all out.

About chances, chances are high that it will work (especilly if you can drink the second cup if you vomit out the first), but not taking antiemetic is a risk. You might immediately vomit out the second cup too, which would mean that your body didn't have time to absorb the SN

The Meto also has a gastric emptying effect which should help more SN go into your intestines

Yes you can still vomit after passout

By the time that you have gone unconscious chances are you have already absorbed enough to kill you.

 

[ojinzo]

I've done a lot of research and it seems puking can happen with or without the antiemtics. I also saw many reports on how no puking happened with or without it. I would advise you wait to acquire it to lessen the chances of puking. I heard antacid helps absorption be faster but not sure on timing. It seems like with or without antacids the absorption can be 15-20 min to unconsciousness. Wishing you all the best I hope you wish for me. I ctb Saturday.

 

[Cerulea]

Assuming I do the proper 8 hours of fasting, have antacids and have a 2nd cup of SN prepared whats the chance that it'll still work? I still intend on getting an antiemetic but im having trouble finding a way to get some without a prescription.

I mean, it's a real shot in the dark to say if something will or won't work. Individual body chemistry is such a wild variable. But from reading Stan's Guide a few times through, the antiemetic is not a requirement for the actual dying aspect of the process. It's assistive. I also am having a hard time acquiring the assistive medications listed on there, so I'll use the OTC versions of what I can find and that will be the best I can do. I refuse to order from an unverified / potentially illegal online market place and I'm not in a position to go to a doctor and ask for hyper specific substances. To accommodate for this, I ordered more SN than I believe I will need so that I can have a second and third dose. I'll make myself as comfortable and isolated as I can after fasting for 24 hours.

I hope you're able to find a combination of resources to help you get where you want to go. I've seen a number of threads where users discuss what they substitute in their exit plan. It's hard based on what's accessible regionally. Good luck to you.

 

[hurtbox]

By the time that you have gone unconscious chances are you have already absorbed enough to kill you.

Yeah that's kinda what I was wondering.

I've done a lot of research and it seems puking can happen with or without the antiemtics. I also saw many reports on how no puking happened with or without it. I would advise you wait to acquire it to lessen the chances of puking. I heard antacid helps absorption be faster but not sure on timing. It seems like with or without antacids the absorption can be 15-20 min to unconsciousness. Wishing you all the best I hope you wish for me. I ctb Saturday.

I found a source for the meto, it's a bit sketch tho. I'll order it but if I don't get it I'm just not going to bother. I'll get antacids though since it's easy to get. Good luck with your plans, what method are you using?

I hope you're able to find a combination of resources to help you get where you want to go. I've seen a number of threads where users discuss what they substitute in their exit plan. It's hard based on what's accessible regionally. Good luck to you.

I've looked at alot of the alternatives suggested but Australia has all of them as prescription only and the OTC stuff won't work. Thanks though.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

I've done a lot of research and it seems puking can happen with or without the antiemtics. I also saw many reports on how no puking happened with or without it. I would advise you wait to acquire it to lessen the chances of puking. I heard antacid helps absorption be faster but not sure on timing. It seems like with or without antacids the absorption can be 15-20 min to unconsciousness. Wishing you all the best I hope you wish for me. I ctb Saturday.

I don't think antacids help with absorption.

 

[hurtbox]

I don't think antacids help with absorption.

No reason not to with how cheap and accessible they are imo.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

No reason not to with how cheap and accessible they are imo.

Personal choice honestly but the latest PPEH doesn't even recommend them anymore. You'll probably go unconscious quicker without them.

 

[ojinzo]

No reason not to with how cheap and accessible they are imo.

• Antacid.

The most simplest medication to get. Not taking it does not automatically mean failure or that it will be slower. Just means more SN reaches the bloodstream which is what you want.

This is taken straight from stans guide. I don't give a damn what you do but this is stans words.

 

[doesitreallymatter]

Where can you get SN easily in the UK anybody ? I'm confused about what to get as there seems to be different types . Thanks if anyone can help !

 

[nffc]

Anybody kind enough to suggest what OTC alternatives there are for the SN method please?

 

[almaranthine]

Anybody kind enough to suggest what OTC alternatives there are for the SN method please?

Diphenhydramine 100mg, 30 min before SN

I dk what thread I copied and pasted that from so my bad. I have it in my notes saved because I haven't been able to get meto. Also, it's wise to take the ibuprofen (600mg 1 hr before) for the headache.

 

[Lostinspace]

Diphenhydramine 100mg, 30 min before SN

I dk what thread I copied and pasted that from so my bad. I have it in my notes saved because I haven't been able to get meto. Also, it's wise to take the ibuprofen (600mg 1 hr before) for the headache.

Wouldn't that bring on some unpleasant hallucinations? The diphenhydramine overdose I mean

 

[almaranthine]

Wouldn't that bring on some unpleasant hallucinations? The diphenhydramine overdose I mean

No, 100mg is not an overdose of it. It is not recommended to take more than 300mg in a day. 50mg is an average dose. Even on the packaging on Benadryl it says take 1-2 (50mg) tablets every 4-6 hrs.

 

[Smart No More]

Stans guide (which can be found on the forum) covers anti emetics quite extensively and covers the top 5 alternatives to meto if I remember correctly. One of which is available otc at a pharmacy.

 

[Sadgirldaisy]

Would Drazamine work instead of an antiemetic?

 

[StarFaded]

Yeah that's kinda what I was wondering.

I found a source for the meto, it's a bit sketch tho. I'll order it but if I don't get it I'm just not going to bother. I'll get antacids though since it's easy to get. Good luck with your plans, what method are you using?

I've looked at alot of the alternatives suggested but Australia has all of them as prescription only and the OTC stuff won't work. Thanks though.

Damn, I live in NZ and I was hoping to get OTC antiemetic.... I've read that it's very crucial to have that with SN so it's back to the hunt for me I guess!

(Btw if anyone is able to link me to IC, I'd be most grateful!)

 

[sheepgirl]

I read a case report on SN deaths today of 15 people, only 3 of them were found with antiemetics in their system.