How hard is it to stab your heart

[Kotochan]

I was thinking I could lie in the bath and stab my heart by pressing my weight into the blade between the ribs - I know where to stab and I I'm pretty sure it'd do the trick

idk any thoughts?

I've recently deleted my twitter that I had been growing for years, I broke up with my friend group that took me in after my suicide attempt. Idk what's next, I don't think I will make a note because i can't imagine that being worth it for anyone or myself. I did make something because it feels weird to imagine just leaving, but honestly I should have been gone already 2 ago, and my death is for me and not the world, my family or friends

I just imagine my death and how terrifying it will be, and I already know! because I went through something similar before, but with a lot less pain haha

I could look for more fentanyl or even H but since it didn't work the last time I think I'd have to go out of my way to drown in the tub on top of it, but like why not just stab myself at that point, and it's too scary to leave the chance of waking up again.

I still have my SN and I even have the money for a hotel right now!! I imagine I could do the SN over night, but I still have the same feeling like it could fail and so that's why I keep thinking of the knife. Any thoughts?

 

[thereisthemist]

heart stabbing is quite intense as it would require enough speed and force to cut right into the organ.
doing so you might end up just a mess of blood loss.
just like cutting the wrist.
and take great care if actually using sn and the forum has many detailed instructions on that.
think at least for a while how prepared you actually are in face of death, and make the thinking calm and rational, as this helps dealing with survival instincts.
all choices from your inner peace will grant you the freedom.

 

[Lawliet]

stabbing yourself in the heart would be incredibly hard. You have to go through skin and bone and have the resolve to do so. Our bodies are extremely resilient and our minds are very against killing ourselves, so getting there mentally would be very difficult as well.

I would stick with SN.

 

[Seeking_Peace]

I was thinking I could lie in the bath and stab my heart by pressing my weight into the blade between the ribs - I know where to stab and I I'm pretty sure it'd do the trick

idk any thoughts?

I've recently deleted my twitter that I had been growing for years, I broke up with my friend group that took me in after my suicide attempt. Idk what's next, I don't think I will make a note because i can't imagine that being worth it for anyone or myself. I did make something because it feels weird to imagine just leaving, but honestly I should have been gone already 2 ago, and my death is for me and not the world, my family or friends

I just imagine my death and how terrifying it will be, and I already know! because I went through something similar before, but with a lot less pain haha

I could look for more fentanyl or even H but since it didn't work the last time I think I'd have to go out of my way to drown in the tub on top of it, but like why not just stab myself at that point, and it's too scary to leave the chance of waking up again.

I still have my SN and I even have the money for a hotel right now!! I imagine I could do the SN over night, but I still have the same feeling like it could fail and so that's why I keep thinking of the knife. Any thoughts?

Fent is extremely potent. How much did you take? Just 2mg is a fatal dose.

 

[SleepingGirl]

Slice and dicing yourself always looks quite easy in the movies. But when you actually look at the biology you have to go quite deep. You'd need a lot of force and a lot of tolerance to the pain you'd have to go through to get there along with hoping your don't knick your rib cage. I technically wanted to bleed out but cutting through all those tendons and flesh with a low pain tolerance wouldn't go over well.

 

[Kotochan]

Slice and dicing yourself always looks quite easy in the movies. But when you actually look at the biology you have to go quite deep. You'd need a lot of force and a lot of tolerance to the pain you'd have to go through to get there along with hoping your don't knick your rib cage. I technically wanted to bleed out but cutting through all those tendons and flesh with a low pain tolerance wouldn't go over well.

well its not really cutting is it? Like dropping your body weight on a knife that's been positioned between your ribs? I feel like that'd have to apply enough force to get a knife to my heart

The ribcage thing is an issue, and so is the going through with dropping my body weight onto a knife. But I think if I did those things... i've checked which ribs to stab between and at what angle i'd have to experiment with the positioning while in a tub but I'm still getting used to holding a knife pointed at myself hah.. I've even palpated very deeply so I can easily trace the section i'd stab

stabbing yourself in the heart would be incredibly hard. You have to go through skin and bone and have the resolve to do so. Our bodies are extremely resilient and our minds are very against killing ourselves, so getting there mentally would be very difficult as well.

I would stick with SN.

yeah, I imagine SN would be easier it just doesn't feel final enough i guess, and 15 minutes knowing I'm dying sounds lame af but maybe it can be my backup haha. Also i shouldn't need to stab through bone, just in between bone

heart stabbing is quite intense as it would require enough speed and force to cut right into the organ.
doing so you might end up just a mess of blood loss.
just like cutting the wrist.
and take great care if actually using sn and the forum has many detailed instructions on that.
think at least for a while how prepared you actually are in face of death, and make the thinking calm and rational, as this helps dealing with survival instincts.
all choices from your inner peace will grant you the freedom.

Yeah I still have a long ways off before I'd do anything, I have to really feel it out. Death is way too scary, sadly I can't just jump into gutting myself - SN would definitely be better in terms of fear, but then I have to go to a hotel and stuff, I can practice the knife thing right at home maybe. Idk it'll be hard, but I just want to die like this

 

[LoveYoux]

I debated the similarities between self inflicted gunshots and stabbings, it rests on the cause and effect; the action required to perform each act -
In the case of a gunshot, assuming it's a handgun to the head, it's a simple fist clench to achieve the desired effect
A stabbing on the other hand requires much more exertion, the use of much more muscle, the demand for much more intent

The point I'm trying to make is the Survival Instinct is unequivocally higher in the case of an attempted stabbing, it simply requires too much from the body that instinctively the body wants to prevent

Could it be dulled through the use of drugs, quite possibly, but then runs the risk of non-fatal attempts and injury and I think it's just not a viable method

I categorically believe it is next to impossible to fatally stab yourself, and in the event of successful penetration fatality isn't guaranteed at all, it would be an agonising and unreliable end

Hate to be a buzzkill x

 

[Kotochan]

I debated the similarities between self inflicted gunshots and stabbings, it rests on the cause and effect; the action required to perform each act -
In the case of a gunshot, assuming it's a handgun to the head, it's a simple fist clench to achieve the desired effect
A stabbing on the other hand requires much more exertion, the use of much more muscle, the demand for much more intent

The point I'm trying to make is the Survival Instinct is unequivocally higher in the case of an attempted stabbing, it simply requires too much from the body that instinctively the body wants to prevent

Could it be dulled through the use of drugs, quite possibly, but then runs the risk of non-fatal attempts and injury and I think it's just not a viable method

I categorically believe it is next to impossible to fatally stab yourself, and in the event of successful penetration fatality isn't guaranteed at all, it would be an agonising and unreliable end

Hate to be a buzzkill x

yah i mean, I don't deny that it's harder, but people have literally been stabbing themselves to death for ages. It's serious hyperbole to say "I categorically believe it is next to impossible to fatally stab yourself". People have literally done exactly that for... ever

I've even googled it and heard about modern attempts where people ended their lives with a knife to the heart.

Like, do I think I will actually be able to do it? Well, we can only find out. But it's certainly something I could potentially do.

Also, I don't think you understand because the use of drugs to dull pain would literally serve no purpose. Like I'm not going to dissect myself, I'm going to stab my heart

Fent is extremely potent. How much did you take? Just 2mg is a fatal dose.

I don't remember. If the old threads are still around it details everything I did and how much I took. It's been two years. I was unconscious for 8 hours, I needed oxygen for days after because I wouldn't breathe enough, my entire right leg hip to toes was numb and I couldn't move it, and my kidneys were failing. I had rhabdomyolysis, my CK levels were 20k+ That's like super severe! When I told my gp that she literally didn't believe me and had to look for herself. I was in the ICU for a week. So, yah it was fentanyl considering I took a tiny little baggies worth. I also tested it in terms of temperature so I knew it had roughly the same melting temp, and so couldn't be H, I tested it with strips too and it came back positive. I imagine it was close to 20% fentanyl, it was definitely cut but it was still plenty of fenty even on conservative estimates. I just got unlucky somehow and didn't fully stop breathing, I know I was doing like death gurgle breathing stuff because my mom told me - so it's baffling to imagine I was somehow in that state for 8 hours and survived.

This is from what I remember. I could have obviously done things better, like I wasted some of it in a test beforehand, but that's why I'm thinking about something lethal that's also quick and accessible since F is hard to find now

 

[LoveYoux]

yah i mean, I don't deny that it's harder, but people have literally been stabbing themselves to death for ages. It's serious hyperbole to say "I categorically believe it is next to impossible to fatally stab yourself". People have literally done exactly that for... ever

I've even googled it and heard about modern attempts where people ended their lives with a knife to the heart.

Like, do I think I will actually be able to do it? Well, we can only find out. But it's certainly something I could potentially do.

Just throwing my two cents in, that's what we're all here for, not looking for a rise

It's in your hands, personally I think it's an unreliable and difficult and potentially very painful method, that's all I'm trying to communicate

 

[veryhappyhuman]

A few thoughts:
* I really doubt death would be instantaneous with this route (lots of factors that can go wrong), so extreme pain for at least several minutes is a possibility
* The weapon could deform in some way under the weight before it does its thing, messing things up
* Stab to heart obviously isn't a common method for ctb, but it does happen often with murders. So the first natural instinct (and direction) for investigators could be that this was a murder. And depending on how good/bad the police work is, your ctb could (at least initially) cause police trouble for people in your circles while they're eliminated as murder suspects one by one, before police finally figure out it was a suicide after all, and nor a murder.

 

[NothingElseMatters]

you r crazy dude don't do this

 

[Kotochan]

Just throwing my two cents in, that's what we're all here for, not looking for a rise

It's in your hands, personally I think it's an unreliable and difficult and potentially very painful method, that's all I'm trying to communicate

I agree with everything you said in this reply, I understand your perspective. In the same way you offered your two cents I offered my own and made my position clear. Thanks for your input

A few thoughts:
* I really doubt death would be instantaneous with this route (lots of factors that can go wrong), so extreme pain for at least several minutes is a possibility
* The weapon could deform in some way under the weight before it does its thing, messing things up
* Stab to heart obviously isn't a common method for ctb, but it does happen often with murders. So the first natural instinct (and direction) for investigators could be that this was a murder. And depending on how good/bad the police work is, your ctb could (at least initially) cause police trouble for people in your circles while they're eliminated as murder suspects one by one, before police finally figure out it was a suicide after all, and nor a murder.

Yeah, I would probably be unconscious after a few minutes of excruciating pain. I can leave a note for the police and make it look more suicide-y too. We'll see about the weapon deforming, I doubt it because it's a straight shot through flesh, that's it. If anyone with experience has input on this who has stabbed things before that'd be cool too

I think the only way the weapon would deform would be if i hit my ribcage but even then it should only scrape, since it's being inserted between the ribs. I could see this being an issue when I involve how I plan to push my body onto the knife, since the blade needs to be at an angle it'd be more difficult to apply the force since a simple body drop wouldn't work

you r crazy dude don't do this

nothing is happening today

 

[outrider567]

I was thinking I could lie in the bath and stab my heart by pressing my weight into the blade between the ribs - I know where to stab and I I'm pretty sure it'd do the trick

idk any thoughts?

I've recently deleted my twitter that I had been growing for years, I broke up with my friend group that took me in after my suicide attempt. Idk what's next, I don't think I will make a note because i can't imagine that being worth it for anyone or myself. I did make something because it feels weird to imagine just leaving, but honestly I should have been gone already 2 ago, and my death is for me and not the world, my family or friends

I just imagine my death and how terrifying it will be, and I already know! because I went through something similar before, but with a lot less pain haha

I could look for more fentanyl or even H but since it didn't work the last time I think I'd have to go out of my way to drown in the tub on top of it, but like why not just stab myself at that point, and it's too scary to leave the chance of waking up again.

I still have my SN and I even have the money for a hotel right now!! I imagine I could do the SN over night, but I still have the same feeling like it could fail and so that's why I keep thinking of the knife. Any thoughts?

Donald Manes from the Bronx NY, a city councilman, committed suicide this way, after being accused of corruption, many years ago

 

[whatevs]

Another pertinent question is... How long does it hurt to stab your own heart? It sounds like a great way to experience some solid seconds of extreme suffering.

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[london3]

I was thinking I could lie in the bath and stab my heart by pressing my weight into the blade between the ribs - I know where to stab and I I'm pretty sure it'd do the trick

idk any thoughts?

I've recently deleted my twitter that I had been growing for years, I broke up with my friend group that took me in after my suicide attempt. Idk what's next, I don't think I will make a note because i can't imagine that being worth it for anyone or myself. I did make something because it feels weird to imagine just leaving, but honestly I should have been gone already 2 ago, and my death is for me and not the world, my family or friends

I just imagine my death and how terrifying it will be, and I already know! because I went through something similar before, but with a lot less pain haha

I could look for more fentanyl or even H but since it didn't work the last time I think I'd have to go out of my way to drown in the tub on top of it, but like why not just stab myself at that point, and it's too scary to leave the chance of waking up again.

I still have my SN and I even have the money for a hotel right now!! I imagine I could do the SN over night, but I still have the same feeling like it could fail and so that's why I keep thinking of the knife. Any thoughts?

this is a terrible idea and sounds very painful

 

[Judy Garland]

Hard.

 

[FuneralCry]

In my opinion, that method sounds so horrifying. I do not understand why anyone would go for this out of all the methods that exist, at least to me it is awful even to think about. I'm sorry that it has come to this point for you and I wish you relief from suffering in whatever you decide to do.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

Queens (NYC) boro president stabbed himself to death in his heart in 1986.

MANES IS A SUICIDE, STABBING HIMSELF AT HOME IN QUEENS (Published 1986)

www.nytimes.com

 

[ornitier199]

I use the Sword of Obedience. If I were to go with this method.

 

[Alex6216]

If your pain tolerance is this high you might as well stab yourself in the carotid arteries/neck
Put fingers on your neck and if you feel beating then it means your placing your fingers on the carotid arteries, stab that location and you'll die within 10 minutes